what has happened to the Zappata roll call thread in chat?

[marmitemad]

I've lost it from my watched threads and can't find it by searching either, am I just being stupid?

why didn't they take you up on that suggestion Egg...?

Hi everyone,
Have been resting lots as had sore knees and hips for a few days so nothing exciting here.

Squonk - new phone sounds fab, I am very bad at phones and like to keep the same one forever although am always slightly envious of the new sleek & shiny ones.

dh has a nokia and I can't even work that although managed to turn it off at 01:30am this morning as dh was passed out snoring in bed . We went round sils last night and he popped down the pub with bil, 3 hours later with a screaming baby I call him to ask when he's coming back, 1 hour later he appears barely able to stand up, so borrowed a bucket from sil and had to make several stops on the way home . not quite sure what happened but he is going to have to do some serious grovelling later.

am very though as I just won a bnwt swimming costume on ebay for £12 when they normally cost £30 in the shops (have split the sides on post baby one and can't fit into pre baby one )

My mum ordered the red sheep buggy snuggle for me, so can't wait for it to arrive and the wii arrived on wednesday and is good fun.

sorry about ILs, Egg

marmite - I bet he says that he had a dodgy pint do you have arthritis? I do. Tis awful at this time of year when it's getting colder.

egg - have you done any grevious harm to the inlaws yet?

Yes I have sero-negative inflammatory psoriatic arthropathy (or early onset inflammatory arthritis!), have had it since I was 15 so well used to it now but it still sneaks up and causes problems sometimes. I do think the cold weather makes me worse, would love to live somewhere warmer one day.

dh is up and feeling a bit better, apparently he had 6 (!) pints of spitfire (which he doesn't drink regularly) and a cigar to celebrate Israel winning. Has been very apologetic and has just taken dd over to his mums so I can have a peaceful bath which is running now

had a lovely day yesterday, after my bath, SIL and family came over and we went out for lunch then they came back and we played on the wii all afternoon.

sky is very grey here, not sure if we are in for a downpour or snow?

Hello Zappatas. Inlaws gone thank god (left before lunch yesterday). They lay in bed til 10am, then MIL came downstairs and said "oh the loft room is great if you want a lie in, we didn't hear a thing", while I sat with bags under my eyes having been up for four hours already and said "yes but I couldn't exactly ignore DS for four hours". Grrrrr. Tact is not a strong point.

At the point of them leaving, DS had been having a screaming, rolling on the floor, kicking and punching tantrum (quite out of character for him, hope it was just because he is still recovering from illness as he has had a few like this lately), and as I gave up ignoring him and picked him up for a cuddle and he kicked me hard in the belly, she said "Oh I feel so sorry for him". Hmmmmm yes, and I am having the time of my life.

All better today. DS is on top form, back at nursery this morning and walked all the way there puddle jumping.

Marmite glad you had a lovely day yesterday and sorry the arthritis is playing up, I imagine damp cold weather does not help. My DS has claimed "bad pint" on occasion. Cigars do not help.....

Egg...is DP not pulling his weight at the moment?

Ah no, he is being a good boy, my DH. He got up with DS on Sat morning, we always do take it in turns at the weekend to have a lie in. I let him choose but make him choose on Friday night so that he can't say "I choose Sunday" when DS decides to wake at 5am on a Saturday! DH cooked lunch and supper for us both yesterday.

DS had 1.5hr meltdown this pm. He demanded cheerios, I said no (he had a bowl for breakfast and some after nursery as he had a good lunch there but no pudding). I think he either has a severe sugar addiction or there is something else dodgy in them as he was seriously seriously screaming and only stopped for one min cuddle breaks before screaming that he wanted them again. I kept ignoring him and leaving the room, I gave him a banana, some milk, and some plain bread, all of which he ate some of, and he still screamed. He had cottage pie and broccoli at 5pm and ate all the pie and a bit of broccoli. Then asked for cheerios again. We had some fruit salad (he ate none, but fed me some grapes), then he asked for toast, so he is now eating toast and peanut butter! Am going to bin the cheerios as they seem to bring out the worst in him.............

hello

marmite - glad you had a fab day.

dd1 was horrible this morning, absolutely awful and then the littlies decided to copy her so I have had three children all yelling at me all day.

I am now ignoring them.

(lalalallalalalalalalalalla)

sorry..DH Egg not DP..
I just hoped he wasn't letting you ope with all the getting kicked etc but now he is forgiven as you have told me he's being good.

HOWEVER...I do think that he could do BOTH Sat and Sunday soon so you can get a bit more rest in...?

I know, it would be lovely, but he does get up at 6:10 every weekday and I am still in bed every single day when he leaves the house at 6:30am apart from very rare occasions. Even if DS is awake I tend to leave him for a while until he gets really agitated. I leave him a bit less at the mo as worried he will work out that he can get out of bed! So far we are a week into the new bed and he has not once tried to get out in the night. Have heard that they often realise a few weeks later and then all hell breaks loose.

Don't worry about calling DH DP, I get it wrong most times with most people .

DS had another short meltdown just before bed when he started asking for cheerios again and when I refused he stamped his feet and screamed, but I ignored him and went upstairs and in the end he followed looking meek! He is in bed now, singing gently...

sorry to hear about all the stroppy lo's, hope it doesn't come my way . I wonder whats in cheerios? dd still has a very snotty nose but seems happy most of the time.

Egg - I find it a bit strange that the ILs did not help out more and offer to give you and dh a break (hope I haven't offended you by voicing my thoughts?). As much as I moan about my ILs I think I am lucky that they live within 15 miles/20mins and don't have to come and stay with us, I think that would drive me crazy .

TMI alert coming up, I need some advice please.
dh wants me to go to the drs as I have had bloody mucous gunk coming from my nose and also am now coughing it up from my chest since last wed. I am slightly concerned but inclined to leave it despite having had my cold for 4 weeks now as I am sure I will just get told to stop time wasting. I am also getting really bad headaches but have not have any sinus congestion.

Marnmite, get to the docs!!! The blood is most probably only from broken veins inside your nose...but best to be sure...

Egg, Marmite voiced my thoughts too...it seems strange that the inlaws still demand 'servie' from you and don't just roll their sleeves up and help?

Marmite, I had green and bloody stuff from nose last week [bleurgh emoticon]. It was only for a couple of days though and I figured it was just from blowing a lot. However you have been ill for ages, and it's best to be sure. DS had a bit of bloody snot too, but I think that's because he keeps sticking his finger up .

Inlaws are particularly unhelpful, except that MIL hovers around getting on my nerves if I am in the kitchen (she spends 23 hours a day in her own kitchen, I always lose weight at her house as I avoid going in there as she is always there, and if she isn't there when I go in, she follows me in).

This time she halfheartedly said during my discussion with DH about who would lie in on which weekend morning "well I could get up with Benjamin", and then about 5 seconds later she said "oh, but I have no idea how to change his nappy so maybe not". She has never never offered to change his nappy / feed him / take him out for a walk without one or both of us. She spent FIVE HOURS shopping on Saturday and complained about being exhausted when she got back. The thing is, she does work hard at home, and FIL does *nothing" in the house, but he works hard in the garden / any outside work like fencing / hedging / painting etc. But she goes on and on and on about how she is always stuck in the kitchen, when it is her BLOODY CHOICE! Urgh.

And I swear she takes pleasure in seeing me on the verge of not coping. She loved it when DS was young and never slept well and she could pass comment all the time.

Right, rant over...

Oh, forgot to say, on the green nose gunk, yes I coughed it up in the mornings, it was vile but somehow quite satisfying getting it up! I never even had a proper cold, just some green stuff, and it was kind of more solid than normal snot!

I am never offended by discussing stuff like this!

Egg..lol..I too had the Fungus the Bogeyman stuff for weeks..hated feeling like I had to swallow all the time..yuk!

Does your DH never ask is parents if they would like to look after ds?

MIL has babysat for DS one evening last Christmas for a couple of hours, but he was already in bed and she didn't have to do anything. Am sure if we asked she would do it, she wouldn't refuse...

Can I just add a bit to my rant??????? The other thing that REALLY PISSES ME OFF is her thoughtless gifts. I know I have seen other threads of being ungrateful and how you should appreciate any gift but...

a) she brought a choc advent calendar for DS even though he is only 21 months and if she actually thought about it she knows I would much prefer a "proper" one (she gave him a full size Easter Egg when he was 2 months old FGS).

b) last time she visited (end Sept) she brought a duvet cover set for a cot. I thanked her but said that DS has a cotbed, and was shortly to move to a toddler bed, which is same size as cotbed, which is larger than a COT, and that he has a cotbed duvet, and I wrote down the size. Also mentioned that he is not even using it yet as still in grobags. He has always had a cotbed, never a cot, it has always been big, she has commented on it many a time. So this time, she turns up with the same cot duvet set and says that surely I can still use it as she can't take it back. I explained very nicely (through gritted teeth) that his duvet is 120 x 150 and that the cover she was trying to give him was 120 x 100 and WOULD NOT BLOODY WELL FIT. She harumphed about how in her day babies were in cots and had cot size quilts and she didn't see what all the fuss was about..............................................................................................

It is half a bloody metre too small. Not a centimetre or two. So then she said that maybe the twins could use it in a year or two.

NO, WE STILL HAVE A COTBED AND I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU EARLIER THAT WE HAVE THE EXACT SAME COTBED ORDERED SO WE WILL HAVE TWO THE SAME BLOODY SIZE SO IT WILL STILL BE TOO BLOODY SMALL YOU BLOODY STUPID WOMAN.

Also, if she tells me ONE MORE TIME that you must never leave a baby alone in a bath as so and so's uncle's sister's cousin did and it drowned when she went to answer the front door I WILL KILL HER. Every single time, without fail, that she is here or we are at her house and I am bathing DS, she tells me the same effing story. This time I said "oh yes, you have told me that many times before" in a nice sing song voice. She still carried on til the end of the story. I don't ever leave him, I never will until he is much older. FGS I AM NOT INCOMPETENT.

Aherm.

Thanks for listening .

Did I get a bit overexcited then?

Oooh Egg..issues girl issues!!!
I don't connect with dp's mum either...I really don't know why, I just don't.

She never listens to anything you say..unless she is waiting for a pause to butt in..

Even when dp told her about one of our m's she said..Oh I , the girl two doors down had one..!!!' WTF??!!
Then two weeks after the mc she told me to hurry up and have another baby or dd3 would be spoilt!!!

sorry mean't to say mc = miscarriage

Jesus, that blows my MILs crapness out of the water. How incredibly insensitive .

I just wish I had a lovely cuddly MIL, who I enjoyed spending time with. Yesterday when DS was screaming he suddenly kept asking for GaGa. This is what he calls my mum, and unfortunately also started calling MIL this weekend when she was here. I can only hope and pray he was asking my MY MUM.........

Hmmm...how weird is this...?

Just after Dp and I's b'days she insisted that we drive over to her house, go round Dulwich park and then she would take us for a meal. DP tried to get out of it by pointing out that we were a bit tired and off colour as dd3 was a bit poorly (it was the start of her tonsil problem, but we assumed it was just a cold). NO she insisted that as she hadn't bought either of us anything she wanted to take us out.

When we'd walked ouselves stupid round the park (carrying dd3 the entire time as she wouldn't walk and we hadn;t thought to bring zapp) she then announced where we were going.
To cut a long long story short after encouraging everyone to have starters and side dishes then cajoling everyone to stuff a dessert down them too - the bill arrived.
DP's mother glanced at bill then took a ten pound not out of her purse and laid it on the table. I was gobsmacked and looke dat DP. He looked horribly embarrassed and said ''I'll just get this then...?''
His mum didn't say a word. I was so angry (for him, not me) that I snatched the bill from his hand and said I would pay..and did so.

His mums tenner wouldn't even have covered her main meal let alone the starter, side dishes, drinks and dessert she insisted on...

When we dropped her back home she apparently said to DP 'was that money okay for my meal?' and he politely said 'yes, of course Mum, no worries'

When he got in the car he was so embarrassed!!!
Happy Birthday only son eh?

OH MY GOD! Where did you go for the meal, out of interest? I am a Dulwich girl born and bred .

I think I would have found it very very hard to not say anything after that. How shocking.

I know..Dp said he was really disappointed in her. To add insult to injury, her birthday is the day after hers and he had to go back to work that night...BUT he still did huge detour over to her place and presented her with a card, bouquet of flowers and a jewellery set that cost more than £80, that he picked out himself during his very short lunch hour! (Not that the cost is that relevant just making the point that he made all the effort)

She then bought him nothing..absoloutley nothing. He is her only son and she is not short of cash.

After that I didn't speak to her and haven't seen her until the other night when she rang and caught me unawares..(any other time I don't answer the phone if i think it might be her).
I was polite but cool and handed her over to DP ASAP.