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please help - what should we do about this <blank> house?

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serenequeen · 08/06/2004 13:22

here is the situation.

some of you may know that we have been attempting to move house for quite a while (previously discussed on mumsnet, but i can't find the thread now).

we told the estate agents and our solicitors some while ago that if we hadn't exchanged contracts by 4th June we would have to postpone our move until October (due to the fact that i'm currently nearly 33wks pg - baby due at end july) - wanting to allow 4 wks between exchange and completion to make sure the stress on us (we have a toddler as well) was minimised.

our buyers have had trouble with their buyers and to cut a long story short are now running behind schedule. last week we reluctantly agreed to move our deadline to this friday 11th june. have just been told by the estate agent that they will not be able to exchange contracts this friday, but will "definitely" be able to do it by next friday, leaving us 2 wks between exchange and completion. of course there is no guarantee whatsoever that we would be able to exchange next week either.

needless to say i'm getting a lot of pressure from the estate agent to agree to this - e.g. it's very usual (he says) to have only this amount of time between exchange and completion. i'm getting irritated by the hard sell, by the lack of understanding of our situation (most people aren't in an advanced state of pg with difficulty walking some days) and by the fact that we are getting this grief even though we have been consistent right from the outset about what our needs were in terms of timing. that's the sale of our house.

on the purchase side, we are ready to exchange subject to agreement on the fixtures and fittings (also discussed before on mumsnet - can't find that one either) and to consideration for items highlighted from the building survey needing immediate attention.

the seller has been quite adamant from the outset that they are taking most things with them (including the bath from the second bathroom) and what they are leaving they are charging hefty prices for. so far they have refused to consider lowering the price of the house in consideration for a breached damp course and woodworm infestation (house not already priced to reflect that this type of work might need to be done).

dh and i have estimated the costs of not coming to agreement on either of these things and think the additional cost to us would be in the region of £15,000. since we also have my maternity leave to fund for 3m, i'm very reluctant to raid our savings for this much money, especially as we had earmarked it for improvements of our own, not for just making the place habitable, iyswim.

so wise mumsnetters, should i give them the extra week, pull out now, or stick to our plan b of potentially moving in october? (of course our buyer and seller might call the whole thing off if we don't move till october).

thanks in advance

ps - has anyone else noticed they can't find things on search atm?

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WideWebWitch · 10/06/2004 19:59

yeah, good plan sq. If you want a 10k reduction though, ask for 12 and let them get you down to 10k and think you've caved. Sorry, grandmothers and sucking eggs I'm sure

foxinsocks · 17/06/2004 16:11

I may have missed an update but I was wondering if anyone knew how sq was getting along with this?

serenequeen · 17/06/2004 18:56

well, the latest is we may or may not be exchanging contracts tomorrow - don't know yet as buyers' buyers have left everything to last minute. .

thanks for asking

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ks · 17/06/2004 19:16

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foxinsocks · 17/06/2004 19:18

ooh good, I'll send positive vibes tomorrow!

Batters · 18/06/2004 08:37

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Fio2 · 18/06/2004 08:39

hope everything goes ok SQ, it is soooooooooooooooo stressful

janinlondon · 18/06/2004 08:50

Fingers crossed for you all SQ!

Marina · 18/06/2004 09:27

Surround yourself with as much LAVENDER as possible and keep thinking those calming thoughts. I know it's a hideous stress-fest but can you bear to update us all once you know?
Thinking of you.

serenequeen · 19/06/2004 16:34

ok, well, we didn't exchange contracts yesterday

i am getting different messages from solicitor v. estate agents as to whether it is possible to exchange next week and still keep to our moving date of 2nd July. whether it's possible or not, i think i'm at the end of my rope with this now. it hasn't been the easiest of pregnancies and i'm very, very tired.

there are also practical things to consider like needing to order new curtains for ds's new room and move him in plenty of time before baby arrives. we really need to start doing that sort of stuff now, i don't want to leave it any longer.

extremely irritated with the estate agents who appear to be trying to persuade me that there is all the time in the world before the baby arrives and that i'm being unreasonable by wanting to call a halt to things now - my pov is that the bottom of the chain has failed to deliver against a long-standing deadline despite 2 extensions... and it is the agents' job to manage the chain not mine!

this is all extremely disappointing

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noddy5 · 19/06/2004 17:15

God I really feel for you we have been expecting to exchange for 2 weeks no replies from our solicitor despite endless calls/e-mails.Turns out she'd been on holiday for 2 weeks!We are surrounded with boxes and it is the pits.Dp is losing it and saying we'll stay here but realistically we love the house and will put up with this Im sure you feel the same you are so close,really lay it on the line Monday we intend to!Keep us all updated

LIZS · 19/06/2004 17:23

sq

so sorry that it just doesn't seem to be happening for you yet . Technically it could still got hrough by 2nd but I'm with you on wanting to be sure now. Hope you get a satisfactory response on Monday even if you have to go to estate agents and stand over them whilst they ring around. They might just realise the urgency if you go and huff and puff at them, complete with bump.

Good luck

noddy5 · 19/06/2004 17:29

Yes I think you should go in and let them see how distressed you are

dejags · 19/06/2004 17:48

SQ,

I have recently been in the same hellish nightmare you have been describing.

Basically we sold our house to chain free buyers because we are moving overseas and needed the sale to progress smoothly. We turned down another offer of £2000 more simply because the buyers were in a chain.

Anyway to cut a long story short on the day that we were due to exchange we found out that the buyers had lied about their status and they were not chain free. There were two additional parties in the chain who were not ready to exchange!!! All this was going on whilst all of our worldly belongings were being export packed to go overseas and I faced a £4000 removal bill at the end of the day.

Needless to say I went ballistic at the agent, I totally and utterly lost it. All not helped by being 6 months pregnant and having already signed the lease and paid the deposit on a rented property. The sellers had initially refused to wait until we moved overseas in November so we took a rental to cover us for five months (not easy to find let me tell you).

I am telling you this sad, sad saga to make you feel better. We did end up exchanging 10 days later and the solicitors had more than enough time to finalise completion within two weeks (they could easily have done it in a week). The utilities companies have been great and it took me just a couple of hours on the phone to transfer all of our bills and close down the old household accounts. Make sure you make a checklist of everybody that needs to be phoned/written to - it really helps. With regards the movers we asked our solicitor to provide them with written confirmation that she would pay them from the proceeds of the sale and they were more than happy with this - worth a try.

All I can say is that I thank the good Lord everyday that we are moving to a country where the Scottish system applies - it works and is so simple...

Good luck - I am sure everything will work out ok.

Dejags

WideWebWitch · 19/06/2004 20:08

Oh no! Sorry to hear this notsoserenequeen. What a PITA (that's putting it politely)

tigermoth · 20/06/2004 15:44

Do hope Monday brings some better news for you, serenqueen. Do you think it would make any difference if you go in person to the estate agent?

Tiredness and stress is horrible combination - hope you have somehow managed to relax a bit today.

serenequeen · 20/06/2004 20:37

hello, tm and everybody. thanks for your kind messages

tm, it is hard to know what "better news" tomorrow may bring. they missed the deadline, end of story. we have already "laid down the law" about the date for exchange and still have had to extend it twice. if we allow "another day or two", it will be death by a thousand cuts, and day by day we will get closer and closer to my due date. it's time to say enough is enough.

my solicitor's view is that the buyers or buyers' buyers - the reality is it doesn't actually matter which - are some way off being ready despite having had (in my view) enough time to do the deal.

meanwhile, i am not getting any less pregnant. my family and midwives already think i am mad to have let the uncertainty go on this long.

we may have a chance to carry on the with the exchange process and complete in the autumn after the baby is born, but i'm not hopeful . nevertheless, i will start these discussions tomorrow.

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Blu · 20/06/2004 20:45

Sad Sad Sad

Marina · 20/06/2004 21:45

and on your behalf, sq.
Really sorry and hoping that if you want it so, the purchase can take place after mini sq arrives.

aloha · 20/06/2004 22:00

Oh, I am sorry. What a PIA. You sound like this is the last thing on earth you need right now.
have just seen that further down this thread I wrote the words 'your solicitor's' meaning plural, which is appalling and I am very sorry!

janinlondon · 21/06/2004 09:41

So sorry to hear about this debacle SQ. I know its the last thing you need just now.

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Heathcliffscathy · 21/06/2004 13:18

sq, only just caught up with this...so so sorry...really hope that in the end it is all for the best (altho, stress at this stage of your pregnancy can't be anything but bad ) thinking of you...

sis · 21/06/2004 14:08

Serenequeen, I'm so sorry that you are going through this and am really cross, on your behalf, for the attitude of the estate agents!