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Swagger Inn: Thread 92 Right! Ades gone...Fire up the Nonny

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BloodyElkFire · 17/04/2015 14:53

Welcome, welcome to our ongoing in-depth analysis of that FAF show The Musketeers.

I'll start....

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This one's the FAFFEST

Swagger Inn: Thread 92 Right! Ades gone...Fire up the Nonny
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ChaiseLounger · 19/04/2015 12:20

La La La. I missed the point. I missed the WHOLE point completely. I missed everything the fans wanted. like TOTALLY. = Adrian.

Or have I said something we don't ALL agree on?

And. Errrr. no.
I actually DON'T think I'm being harsh.

ApricotCrush · 19/04/2015 12:50

Afternoon! We went out with friends last night, and I was up half the night feeling ill. Not so much too much drink although I did have more than usual but too much of the food I know upsets me. Hmm

Great to relive all those wonderful moments from S1 in the videos and gifs. You're quite right Chaise, Adrian didn't have his finger on the pulse, but JessP did, and that's why he's gone. Would love to have been a fly on the wall when it all blew up.

Loving the She Sheds, I want one.

Poor MiniBads, hope it's all sorted soon.

Good luck with the interview Madame.

MadamedeChevreuse · 19/04/2015 12:51

chaise some people seem to have liked what he did with s2, but from what I've seen on tinternet, most people don't.

I listened to that geek interview yesterday and thought ade did sound a bit in denial about it all. So much so that I almost felt sorry for him. Mrgeek (the interviewer) was EXTREMELY soft on him, obviously he was one of the ones who loved s2, and didn't ask ade hardly any of the fan questions that were critical of s2. Mrgeek hashed up ww's question so badly that he didn't even clearly communicate her point, I think he was actually afraid to spell out what she asked. At the end of the day, he's not a journalist, just some bloke with a website, so...

SparklesRedHotChileLeather · 19/04/2015 12:51

You OK Obs?!

We'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

For the record - I DON'T agree ^ with the above few posts - I'd hate for any of the crew to come in here & assume that's what we all think. I still really enjoyed S2 & the show is still my favourite thing on TV.

Roll on S3 & let's just all focus on the important stuff - like that as of tomorrow it's highly likely they'll be in that gym playing with swords in their white vests, getting into yoga positions & bonding with their new horses & baddie Grin

SparklesRedHotChileLeather · 19/04/2015 12:52

Gah- more posts were posted while I was typing!

MadamedeChevreuse · 19/04/2015 12:58

But at the end of the day, I'm really glad he's gone. For me / from what I can tell, he's responsible for fucking up my fave show in a big way.

For me it wasn't just the "new darker tone", aka not enough levity, and all the gratuitous sexual violence towards women. (Because sorry Ade, get your head out of your arse, most of it WAS gratuitous, above all the Hunting Lodge scene.)

It was just that most of the time, I found the writing really shit. Shock

So (have I mentioned this? Wink ) I am now sooooooooooooooooo excited about the prospect of a S3 team-written by a load of shit-hot US scriptwriters!!!!!!

MadamedeChevreuse · 19/04/2015 13:02

Yy sparks can't wait for the bootcamp photos to be unleashed!!!

I would bet my last sou that the new baddie character is going to be Mazarin.

Cant wait to find out who will play him...

BloodyElkFire · 19/04/2015 13:58

The only chocolate I like is that which has been smeared over Tom Burke's beautiful naked torso.

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BloodyElkFire · 19/04/2015 13:59

Flops, Bads, Wicked....anyone else?

I'm warming my hands up....

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MadamedeChevreuse · 19/04/2015 14:19

Gargh.....

Interview prep bewildering.

Primary school wenches - please can you help? What exactly is the difference formative amd summative assessment? Why / how is it useful?

Thank you Flowers

Carry on with the chocolate spreading...

BloodyElkFire · 19/04/2015 14:31

HELLO!

Sorry about that. Ahem!....

S2's been that 'difficult 2nd album' and I've been trying to put my finger on why, because there were some great bits in it. IMHO I think it fell between two stools, it didn't quite know what it wanted to be again...if you're going to go down the 'darker' route and wish to include story lines such as gang rape, then that is a very different beast. Such subject matter is what it is, take the gang rape...it's a vile act but it did and does happen, and if you are going to include it, it needs to be dealt with in a far more shocking, grittier and realistic way, it can't be made light of. Plus any humour would have to be included very cleverly, and be black as pitch.

The genre that the The Musketeers falls into, with it's often rather lumpy writing (how many scenes do they need to sit and explain the plot?) and the quite frankly laudable plot lines in some eps (astrolabe anyone Hmm) is far too lightweight to carry such subject matter, it's just not that kind of show.

All of this and I'm a huge fan of the hot beardy men show! It's such a shame...they've got a fabulous cast, a very talented crew, the most amazing locations and sets, and thanks to Monsieur Dumas, the potential for the most swashbuckling adventurous stories.

aaaand I maybe a teeny weeny bit biased here, but Tom Burke is an extraordinarily talented actor, with incredible depth and range....and I can think of only about five moments during the entire series where he was given the opportunity to really stretch his acting legs. What a waste. I can't comment on the others coz I barely notice them, soz

not soz

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FancyFancy · 19/04/2015 15:07

Afternoon.

Nicely put elk esp. this bit: TM....is far too lightweight to carry such subject matter, it's just not that kind of show. It felt very gratuitous to me, it was already established that they were an evil lot, so added nothing there. Plot-wise it only served to provide some action to break up the preparing for a seige scenes and to get Aramis & Porthos out of the way to help get Athos & Catherine on their own to talk.

It was a shame, as with Connie's 'It's a man's world' speech & Queenie's angsty talk with Connie about Kingy & Milady I thought they raised serious issues that fitted in well.

Overall I still enjoyed the series - keep the longer story lines, but more swagger and humour please.

FancyFancy · 19/04/2015 15:09

AH seems to be quite popular with some of the fans because he will do those sorts of interviews - which makes it even odder that he was out of step with what so many of them wanted from the show. I think JP has a much better idea Grin

SparklesRedHotChileLeather · 19/04/2015 15:17

JP should have a much better idea as she's on Twitter. But depends how much looking around she does. I still reckon they'll have show peeps looking on forums like here though. Ade said he was acutely aware of SM reaction so it's feeding back somehow. I wonder if him going will be like the nail in the coffin to the cast though - they may see it, combined with the viewing figs, as the final reason to call it a day after S3 - or whether that's a done deal anyway.

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MadamedeChevreuse · 19/04/2015 15:17

Very well put elk.

Sorry for the s2 bashing, I still love it for the characters and the FAF and the general potential of the concept for fabulous swashbuckling adventure...that's why I stayed with it and will stay with it. If the ponderous, over-complicated episodic plots of s2 are streamlined and made more entertaining, it will be all systems go imo.

SparklesRedHotChileLeather · 19/04/2015 15:28

Sorry Madame I can't remember what your primary ed question was, but do know that I couldn't answer it Grin

FancyFancy · 19/04/2015 15:30

sparks Yay found it! Was convinced it was on a completely different Tumblr account & spent ages looking through that one, distracted by all the pretty.

Link here

LetUsPrey · 19/04/2015 15:38

What's already been said and this, always this

Good luck with the prep Madame

FancyFancy · 19/04/2015 15:39

The tumblr account I got lost in was this one. Some rather nice quality pics & gifs in it - rather more Athos than Aramis sadly.

madame, sorry I can't help with your education qu - I can find definitions on-line, but how that distinction works in practice seems less clear - although I could be overthinking it!

SparklesRedHotChileLeather · 19/04/2015 15:41

Thanks Fancy. Blimey, I've not even heard of that Tumblr account.

WickedWenchOfTheNorth · 19/04/2015 17:02

Evening wenches Smile

Chocolate covered Tom, yummie Wink

Hope your head gets better Madame Flowers

Been a bit productive today actually, I surprise myself even Grin Been for a walk, worked a bit, been doing som practical stuff around the house and now I'm dyeing some clothes in the washing machine, curious about how that will turn out Hmm

I'm looking forward to S3, I really hope we will get som of S1 back Smile

SparklesRedHotChileLeather · 19/04/2015 17:27

Let's have this again.

Lay one finger on her!

No - cos that's your job eh Aramis?

FancyFancy · 19/04/2015 17:57

It's always the right time for an Aramis staredown gif.

Sounds like a good day ww - I'm interested to hear how the dyeing works out!

AnneOfAramis · 19/04/2015 18:03

I really enjoyed S2. Agree on some points like the gang rape and it not being the sort of show that could carry that. They could have just held her prisoner until Athos agreed to hand over his land or something.

But overall I loved it ... Piñon otherwise was fab, I really loved the episode with the Spanish general and Dog and Kingy being kidnapped. I even didn't mind the astro-Whatsit. In short the Emilie one was the only one I wasn't sure about.

FancyFancy · 19/04/2015 18:21

I think my judgement on the Emilie ep was clouded by the sheer amount of FAF Aramis Grin I quite enjoyed it, despite some bits being preposterous. I loved the Queenie/Connie chat which I think was in that ep? Thought it was nicely written & explained a lot about The King/Queen relationship without being out of place.

And of course that ep was the source of one of my favourite Aramis gifs

Thank you for mentioning the ep & giving me an excuse to post it anne Grin

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