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Hi guys! Sorry for MIA-ness.... been very stressful couple of weeks, back is hurting so much all the time now and I can't do most things that relax me (even reading is painful), so I'm more stressed, which makes back worse, and anxiety worse, etc etc. Still not pregnant, work still not good (though I am thankful I am employed and counting my blessings there), generally feeling rubbish!

Well done to those ladies with recent scans / baby movements etc - exciting!

jbells sorry things aren't good for you. Rant as much as you like - sometimes just venting helps [noticing that a lot of my recent posts have been ranty...]

bebe don't give up hope!

Got to go as DH wants to go to pub quiz... and seeing as we are usually relatively hermit-y I probably should go...

100- yep you can see everything moving now last nite u cud see his little bum shifting from one side of my belly to the other. I am very thankfull i didnt hav any puking but when im on a diet for a year after the birth and your fitting bk in your skinny jeans u may see tje silver lining to it all hehe :)

Mrs sat- sorry your anxiety and other stuff is gettin worse i hope things pick up for u soon enjoy your pub quiz

Infact just as i finished typing that hd started wriggling around and my belly was all.swuirming it looks quite freaky at times lol

MrsS it is good to hear from you, even if news is not so great. I'm really sorry you missed out again this month. I see you have been on Charters Anonymous, that's my thread of choice if I ever graduate. Although since we got the kitten I've been woken every morning by a hungry little ball of fluff and I always forget to take my temp!

I had a gawp at your charts, it looks like you are doing a better job than me! Are you recording cx position and CM all the time? I need to get back in the habit !

Bit cheesed off to see that my new waiting ttc thread has spawned a graduates thread of its own. Not sure whether to be [proud] or to cry!

DH is still taking his zinc though [swoon]!

I am infiltrating the graduate thread and keeping an eye on things!!

I need to convince DH to procreate...again! He always says, 'forget about the MS...would we be thinking about having another baby right now?' Answer: Yes, but it wouldn't be so important to be right now! How can I 'forget about the MS', it's a major factor, I just don't have time to wait indefinitely!! Grrrrrrrrr!

AC - Glad your DH is still towing the line with the zinc, mine is useless!!!

Oh MrsS, i'm sorry things are bad for you, here, have a hug ((()))

100years, yes, it was very obviously a boy! The sonographer said it couldn't possibly be anything else unless there was a new species she hasn't come across yet! We saw his boy bits very clearly. DH reckons he's a big lad like his dad, i had to try very hard not to snigger.

I'm really enjoying my baby bump and can feel much more movement now. The sonographer said he is a wriggler which we were also told at the first scan. It seems he might be hyperactive like 2 of his uncles (1 on each side)and a cousin, DH is worried, lol!

Bebe for some mad reason I am actually excluded from it as we won't be ttc until July!

WYorks a boy! How lovely! I know it's completely unacceptable to have a preference but I'd love to have a little boy.

AC - Maybe we should start our own 'July?August?Sept?Never? WTTC Graduates' thread! :o

WYorks - DD was a very wriggly baby & still doesn't sit still...or even sleep still!

I had a preference for a boy too...but wasn't to be, and DD is AWESOME and I love her & wouldn't change her if you paid me! :o

I've started charting as well AC and MrsS, ostensibly to try to see if I am actually ovulating. Though currently (only 2nd month) it's hard to see a pattern in temps, mine seem to jump around all over the place.

Feeling rather sore-headed this morning after a couple of bottles of wine with my best friend who was commiserating with me over the work news. We did quite a lot of chatting about the whole when to TTC thing (she's in a similar boat to me, it's SO nice to have a RL person to talk it all over with). Found myself saying that my hormones have gone totally off, perhaps in reaction to the bad news about my job security (Bebe I never thought I'd say this but I think I can understand where your DH is coming from!) And I am now trying to remember the drunken conversation I had with DP before falling asleep which I'm pretty sure involved him trying to convince me that having a baby was a good idea!

MrsS it's good to see another chart in degrees Celsius. You are colder than me on a day by day basis, wonder if it's the altitude or something!

Not sure how you link to your chart I'll have a go:

my Feb chart

Bebe you and I are going to need a thread of our own if DH reneges this time round. We will rock in chairs surrounded by ten gruffalos.

AC and Bebe I'll doubtless still be there rocking away too...Starting to think being a mad old lady covered in Gruffalos might be the line of least resistance. DP's work completion which has been pencilled for October (after being pencilled for last June, and for this month....) now looks like it might possibly be further delayed due to factors outside his control, AGGHHHHH!

AC your chart link doesn't work, it just goes to the login page. Been thinking about doing my charting online, what's the advantage over doing it on paper do you think?

MrsS, hugs, sorry to hear you are suffering at the moment. I know that feeling about work not being good, but everyone saying well at least you have a job, it really doesn't make it feel any better, and comparing yourself to others who either don't have a job or stuff like that doesn't help how you are feeling. I hate it when people say you should count yourself lucky, I feel it belittles the emotion I am feeling at the time and everyone has their own personal problems, my neighbour's problems are just theta their problems, mine are mine and so should not be compared to someone elses. If that makes sense. x

jbells, that's cool, I hope I get some of that, although I am a 16-18 top half now, so I'm not sure if the fat will cover up the movements.

AC I never got OH to take zinc, don't think he would have took it anyway, he's only taken 1 paracetamol in the time we have been together and that was when his temp was raging.

Wyorks, 2 weeks till mine! I think if ours is a boy and it's obvious my OH will comment something very similar! LOL

Been quite tired the past couple of days, think the shifts I did took a while to get out of my system, seeing occupational health this afternoon so I may see what they suggest about the shifts. Working till 2am when you want to be asleep is bloody hard work.

My Ovulation Chart

Quod yes I can well imagine it would be good to share with someone off the internet, more real I suppose! You are more than welcome to jon us in our mad old lady thread if necessary, we will just need one more chair and lots more gruffalos! Hopefully it won't come to that!

I've only ever charted on line, it's so easy, all you do is put your temp in and it does all the calculations for you. Fertility Friend is the one I use, that says it can't be reversed to use it as a contraception, but I do anyway. TCOYF can be used as a contraception, but I'm not so keen on the website. Also I'm not so keen on contraception lol.

I know exactly what it's like to be in a bad way at work, I am so fed up with my job I can'e begin to tell you. I've even seen a solicitor about making a constructive dismissal claim. I just wish there was some other option. It's just impossible to get another job the way things are at the moment. 100years you are so right about people saying at least you have a job, it's no comfort at all.

I never thought I would get DH to take zinc, he is just the same about medcation as your OH. But what do you know, he's got stuck in. He's very competetive you see, he thinks he'll have a super baby!

So where is our crazy lady thread?!?!

It's never ever going to happen here. DH is completely depressed, to the point I really think he ought to go to GP (but he won't). My mum has given us some money (I didn't know, and we didn't ask) and it seems to have pushed DH over the edge. Had him on the phone near tears while he was at work yesterday saying 'what's the point of me working my bollocks off to get treated like shit & earn fuck all money?' He has a point, but he's ranting at the wrong person!! I feel so completely trapped between a rock and a hard place. If we didn't already have DD & I wasn't sick I would completely be able to accept not having a baby right now & understand why it is a bad idea. But we have DD, and she is growing up fast & I just feel awful when I think of her being an only child. Plus my MS isn't going to go away, and it is a major factor. I need to have young children while I can still do the things I want to do with them. No one knows how my MS is going to go, or if there will ever be a cure. And for completely selfish reasons, I don't want to go back and start a career just to stop again to have another baby.

Fed up today...and it's not even 8.30am!! :(

Oh bebe sorry it all seems so intractable still. ((()))!

Saw my pg friend yesterday which has made me go all super broody - dreamt that we discovered I was 4 weeks pg, weirdly realistic dream too, apart from the bit where I got scanned and it was already (at 4 weeks) the doppelganger of DP...

AC I think either my body or my thermometre is rubbish - my BBT is fluctuating by half a degree from one day to the next!

Quod, my chart is all over the place too! Can't quite make head or tail of it. My free trial is coming to an end and I'm not sure whether to pay out for the premium membership or not...

Sorry your job isn't going well at the moment AC. It is rubbish when things are like that because it's one thing that you just can't avoid! Just have to keep going I suppose. At least the weather is getting better - I always find it's easier to cope with things when the sun is out and the days are longer.

WYorks how exciting that you know the sex now! Have you decided on a name yet?

bebe I'm sorry you're feeling so down. It sounds like your DH's job is at the root of the problem. I know it's complicated because it's a family business etc but is there no way round it? If he can't leave, just to take a step back for a while at least? Has he spoken to his dad about it? Surely his dad wouldn't want him being ill over it. Can he take holiday any time soon?

Bebe might you going back to work in the short term be something to consider? I know its not ideal and might not be practicable - but you seem to be running out of options. At least you would feel like you were doing something to move the situation along. I know I'm going to feel really bad if we start ttc and you're still waiting. After reading your post this morning I had a word with myself for moping about.

Bebe I doubt we're going to be starting any time soon either - I can't seeing it happening for us in 2011 to be honest. So we'll be Gruffalo tending together for a while I reckon (Can we tend to <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=mark+ruffalo&hl=en&client=safari&sa=X&rls=en&tbm=isch&prmd=ivnsuol&tbnid=BYiW4uVUr4TYuM:&imgrefurl=www.movieeye.com/celebrity_addresses/details/11989/Mark_Ruffalo.html&ei=oBaeTafOKsbh4wbEzsHBBA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=667&vpy=116&dur=1807&hovh=189&hovw=266&tx=158&ty=123&oei=dhaeTcu9KIii4QbR_cjCBA&page=1&tbnh=135&tbnw=172&start=0&ndsp=26&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:0&biw=1276&bih=601" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the Ruffalo too?)

MrsS, I can't work out how to link to my chart but it looks exactly like yours in resembling a mountain range. I can't understand how it's meant to stay constant to be honest, it doesn't take account of things like whether my boiling hot DP is also in the bed, or whether it's suddenly gone so cold I've had to put the PJs back on....Je ne comprende pas!

I have been looking for a part time job, but there is not alot out there. TBH I really need to get my backside in gear & do my hygiene certs online & work on my cake business. That will be easier when DD is at pre-school.

DH can't really stop doing what he does. He's far too invested in the company, emotionally & financially. His dad doesn't really 'get it' either so talking to him is pointless. Just gonna make the most of the bank holidays as he can't take any proper time off :(

My charts ( when I was doing temping) were all over the place too. So I stopped as it was doing my head in!! I just don't get it either.

You can't stop these things, it's almost impossible to walk away from your job, no matter how obviously it is damaging your health and affecting other areas of your life.

The difficulty in you going back to work is that if you start bringing money in it will be difficult to agree to you stopping again. It could make things worse. The cake business is probably a good compromise.

Bebe working towards your hygiene certs now would at least make you feel like you were doing something to change the situation and move it forward, I reckon? IYou really should do something with your talent in that area! And it would be something you could scale up or down depending on future childraising. Honestly a friend of mine recently had her kitchen inspected for a home cake-making business and she said it wasn't nearly so intimidating as she thought it would be. I know it wouldn't change the TTC situation but I sometimes think that the impotence (ha!) you feel when someone else is controlling something this big can actually make everything feel a lot worse.
Maybe if you were earning it would relieve some pressure on DH too?

I totally get the situation of having a partner who is over-invested in their work by the way. Mine is not too stressed currently but when he is stressed about work it completely takes over his life and mine, everything else ceases to exist and there can be NO other priorities apparently. Drives me mad too.