Hygiene warning given by nursery

[Katied1331]

Looking for some advice, our DD is attending a nursery for 15 hours and today we have been called in for a meeting as she apparently has severe nappy rash that they believe needs to be seen my a GP (granted it is a little red but nothing a bit of cream won't fix) they also insist on applying yellow cream at every nappy change something that we don't do as this created a problem with our other children! She has been sent home from nursery and not allowed back until she has seen a GP!

The nursery manager has since emailed us and requested a meeting on her hygiene (hair/clothes/previous nappy rash) she has ringlet curls and doesn't allow us to comb/brush her hair so sometimes it does look a little rough! Obviously I am upset that we are being called in but is this anything I should be worried about?!

If you can't see where she misread my post then I can't help you. I was referring to those who DO insinuate SW are "child snatchers". I was NOT insinuating that. And while there may not be any actual abuse, clearly there is some neglect, otherwise the nursery wouldn't have raised it as a concern. They do have a duty of care after all. I'd be rather concerned that someone in a position of such high responsibility is unable to read a simple comment on MN correctly. I hope she doesn't make such mistakes when dealing with important paperwork.

You deserved everything she said to you, and that final spiteful sentence confirms it.

You implied that, if social services got involved, they would take Op's child. You were unpleasantly judgemental based on very little evidence and you don't like it because a professional has called you out.

Do you have any idea at all of the level of abuse social workers deal with??
My God, most people would be downing a bloody bottle at the end of the day, not just a glass!

Again, since you are incapable of basic comprehension. I said "people LIKE" do you not get that?

As for me being a "grade A arsehole" I guess it must take one to know one.

No I did not say that would happen. I said IF it ever did get to that stage.

Have you been at the wine this evening as well??

100% agree

I agree with you. A qualified social worker advising a potentially neglectful parent to push back against the nursery who clearly have a lot of experience with children AND nappy rash. The nursery staff clearly think its bad enough to warrant medical intervention, the OP saying 'nothing a bit of cream won't fix' but it seems they won't use the treatment needed. The mind boggles.

@Katied1331 This is more than an unruly hair issue. I'd be going into see the nursery staff as they are obviously concerned about your child's welfare. Aren't you? Why are you so concerned about the meeting if you feel your child's needs are being met?

Honestly- just as an example my son had nits so many times it's untrue when he was at nursery and primary - was he suffering neglect- not remotely -they just seemed to like his hair !! Drove me nuts- but I would have been mortified if nursery had been calling me in almost 'implying' it was neglect. These things all need to be looked at as part of a bigger picture- I think because of the very high profile cases nurseries are very hyper alert (which I do understand) but must make it hard for social workers too. I feel for everyone involved here including OP. It doesn't help when it's hard to access non judgemental support these days too- one reason I thought sure start was a very good thing and needs to come back.

As a social worker if I advised a client to push back in these circumstances I would be up for a caution. Rightfully so. CPS as it's called where I am does not snatch children away for messy hair. This does sound like there is more to it then messy hair. We certainly do not advise anyone to push back. Ever.

I would have thought most people know this about nits, some children are just more prone to them regardless of how often their hair is washed and they get spread around schools and nurseries easily so they wouldn't raise that in this manner. Sure start is still around though.

For goodness sake, it was a hypothetical remark. Do you know what HYPOTHETICAL means? If not I'm sure you know how to use a dictionary.

@Serrina I hope it's expanded again- I know lots have mentioned they no longer have one in their area- yep those nits really loved my son!!

Interestingly we had quite a few rather scruffy kids at his nursery with very posh but slightly bonkers parents ( think Rees Mogg types)

Perfectly normal to be concerned at being reported to ss. Believe it or not but innocent parents can also be scared of this. Being worried about this doesn't mean your guilty. It is possible the nursery is being ott but it could also be op is neglecting the child . We just don't know and speculating something like this seems pointless. @Katied1331 Op get that nappy rash sorted asap and give that hair a brush! Many tips have been given on how to deal with curly hair...or maybe you have and that's why you're not on the thread.

This thread is absolutely ridiculous. My children regularly went to nursery with scruffy hair/ clothes. Couldn’t be arsed with the negotiations etc. Even took a toothbrush in to nursery if necessary!
All fully functional adults now. One of them is a SW for child protection in her county. This thread just highlights how naive people are about children who are at a real risk..and it’s very disturbing!

I totally agree.

People are acting batshit over this.

Don't worry @Katied1331 - the nursery are just covering their insurance saying visit GP (as nappy rash is still a 'rash') and probably just want a meeting to agree method on combating nappy rash together as they are part caring for her with you.

I'd say - nothing to worry about at all.

I had a DD with severe nappy rash (nothing worked, tried all the creams). Nursery were concerned but when we spoke we worked out a plan together to tackle it (increased frequency of nappy changes, water wipes or cotton wool and water, no oranges or acidic fruits). Worked well. It was so bad some days she bled slightly. No neglect at all, just needed a plan to tackle it at home and nursery. We even went to the GP who couldn’t help us much more other than a short prescription of a steroid cream to help it heal quicker. Have you spoken to the GP?

she also has unruly curly hair. It’s a nightmare to take. Spray water and conditioner on to comb then tie up and use clips. Lots of clips. Still looks like a birds nest by lunch.

Without more details, quite rightly so

Exactly, and it appears there might be more to it than she's letting on.

None of my babies had Nappy rash. I used JSons baby lotion at every nappy change ,every three hours. No nappy Creams at all. No wet wipes.
I bath per day with no harsh bubbles, just mild soap. Hair wash once a week.
Avon dry oil spray for hair tangles.