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Stop bringing children in dungarees and pull-ups please.

210 replies

Whatt · 25/04/2023 22:36

From all nursery workers everywhere.

We hate pull-ups. They sag and are a bitch to change when you have a nappy round of 15 children.

You have to take off the child's trousers and shoes to put on a new one. Some parents even have the audacity of putting socks, tight and dungarees on one child.

And don't get me started on dungarees for toilet training children who cannot take them off themselves, why do that?

Today a child who uses the toilet came in with a baby grow?! How is the child suppose to go to the toilet by themselves with a done up baby grow?

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Mysterian · 26/04/2023 16:17

Nurseries don't like pull-ups. They're just bad nappies. Maybe they're good for a couple of weeks when potty training and the child understands and is trying but isn't that good yet.

Dungarees without poppers are evil. Double evil is when a parent sends an older child in with dungarees and a tight jumper on top. I remember a child who left for school without every being able to go to the toilet independently solely due to the clothes he was put in.
Also:
long sleeves will get wet.
Laces are stupid.
"Special" clothes that "can't get dirty" are totally inappropriate.
Crocs are dangerous. We sent a child to A&E only last month after a Croc injury.

jannier · 26/04/2023 16:17

50percentNamaste50percentGoFuckYourself · 26/04/2023 14:05

When I worked in creches we didn't need to find the children we caring for. We knew where they were.

I don't think anyone here knows how any of this works.

If you're on nappy duty and the setting is free flow some will be playing outside nobody has said the children are not watched by staff but the person doing nappies is obviously not out in the garden. As you very well know

itsabigtree · 26/04/2023 16:23

Ballcactus · 26/04/2023 07:20

You know pull ups can be ripped off rather than pulled down the legs?

Yes but you still have to put a new one on so they trousers have to come off!

Mysterian · 26/04/2023 16:27

@Stephhh87 Nappy changes are a bit easier with a 2 piece, but there is less protection. Not much between them.
Very padded winter type all in ones can be an issue as children just crawling sometimes find them too hard to move in, but won't be an issue for you this time of year. For anyone reading this in the winter, get a thin waterproof outfit and put a winter coat over the top.

After potty training I would definitely say a 2 piece.

jannier · 26/04/2023 16:27

50percentNamaste50percentGoFuckYourself · 26/04/2023 16:04

Helps if you read the posts. I worked in creches for many years and have changed thousands of nappies. If you're taking an hour to do a group of children, you must be doing it blindfolded and backwards.

Do you know the size of the nursery. And in 29 years I'm sure I've done at least as many as you a nappy takes 2 minutes pull ups at least twice as long unless your ripping it off and not talking to the children or making it fun for them yanking them about etc.... obviously your super speedy in some strange way ....by the way pull ups on non potty training children are relatively new so how many years ago are you talking?

Stephhh87 · 26/04/2023 16:51

Mysterian · 26/04/2023 16:27

@Stephhh87 Nappy changes are a bit easier with a 2 piece, but there is less protection. Not much between them.
Very padded winter type all in ones can be an issue as children just crawling sometimes find them too hard to move in, but won't be an issue for you this time of year. For anyone reading this in the winter, get a thin waterproof outfit and put a winter coat over the top.

After potty training I would definitely say a 2 piece.

Oh good advice thanks. Ok I’ll send LO with a one piece to begin with since crawling around and falling over while trying to walk etc I feel they could end up with wet clothes underneath which would be a bigger pain!
once more independent and potty training the first sure a 2 peice.
ive currently got a one piece so we can still use the swings after it rains and have sized up massively lol which does make it easier getting on and off because so roomy (cuffed arms and legs so all good).
but it dawned on me today that my LO. Has NEVER pooped while sleeping, travelling or outside or at swimming or a group etc. Generally first thing in morning, right after lunch, and just before evening bath 😂 so going they keep this up to help make life easier for nursery staff!
good to know about winter coat over thin waterproofs. I’ll definitely keep that in mind thanks 😊

Torturedsoul · 26/04/2023 16:56

Oh god, I apologise. I've done the dungarees, tights and socks thing. This was because they insist on wellies for outside and it was bitter so wanted an extra layer on her feet as wellies can be cold.

Robinni · 26/04/2023 17:17

SleepingStandingUp · 26/04/2023 10:07

Do you take that attitude in general? That if you're paying for a service it's you're right to treat the staff will little to no respect? If I go for a meal, is it OK for me to tip it into the table and make a mess over the table cos I've paid £50 for it?

@SleepingStandingUp if you are paying £50-100 a day for childcare.

And the nursery cannot find the time to print a flyer to send round to parents to communicate their preferences, there is clearly something wrong!!

They are paid to look after the children and change nappies. That is their job description.

Parents are allowed to have a choice in what their child wears, that isn’t being disrespectful to anyone and clearly they are able to manage changing the child at home…. But a professional in a nursery can’t be bothered.

If there’s an issue any decent nursery sends out a message, they don’t moan about it. And I’ve never heard of any nursery not being able to manage dressing and undressing a child to change a nappy.

Shall we just send them all in a vest to be totally respectful to nursery workers and limit the effort they have to go to. Or better yet, let them sit in a pee and poo filled nappy all day. Why should they have to expend any energy!

jannier · 26/04/2023 17:51

Torturedsoul · 26/04/2023 16:56

Oh god, I apologise. I've done the dungarees, tights and socks thing. This was because they insist on wellies for outside and it was bitter so wanted an extra layer on her feet as wellies can be cold.

Welly socks over ordinary ones are good

Torturedsoul · 26/04/2023 17:55

jannier · 26/04/2023 17:51

Welly socks over ordinary ones are good

Fab, thank you.

jannier · 26/04/2023 17:56

Robinni · 26/04/2023 17:17

@SleepingStandingUp if you are paying £50-100 a day for childcare.

And the nursery cannot find the time to print a flyer to send round to parents to communicate their preferences, there is clearly something wrong!!

They are paid to look after the children and change nappies. That is their job description.

Parents are allowed to have a choice in what their child wears, that isn’t being disrespectful to anyone and clearly they are able to manage changing the child at home…. But a professional in a nursery can’t be bothered.

If there’s an issue any decent nursery sends out a message, they don’t moan about it. And I’ve never heard of any nursery not being able to manage dressing and undressing a child to change a nappy.

Shall we just send them all in a vest to be totally respectful to nursery workers and limit the effort they have to go to. Or better yet, let them sit in a pee and poo filled nappy all day. Why should they have to expend any energy!

The person in the office is not changing 20/30 nappies or toilet training....so doing a flyer is not as far up the list as chasing non payers etc.
At home your doing one nappy taking as long as you need nobody is pulling at your leg saying I need a wee/pooh while you totally undress a child in the latest super tight fit gear and converse high tops...nobody is behind you saying X has just poohed can you do them before you do the next 10 .....why do you want the staff to be taking all this time in a changing room rather than playing with your child and showing them life skills? Your child doesn't want to be away from play either.

Robinni · 26/04/2023 18:08

@jannier frankly if a nursery I was sending my child to couldn’t manage to email or distribute a flyer with a single paragraph on it, I’d remove them from it.

itsgettingweird · 26/04/2023 18:15

How does that work? You must end up doing something like feeding it through the leg of the trousers?

Sort of.

You put the pull-up on the leg that had trousers and shoe on first. Pull over the clothes. Put in other leg!

jannier · 26/04/2023 18:41

Robinni · 26/04/2023 18:08

@jannier frankly if a nursery I was sending my child to couldn’t manage to email or distribute a flyer with a single paragraph on it, I’d remove them from it.

With so many shutting due to shortfall in funding you're lucky to have a choice. Some near me have cut office staff drastically to a few hours a week the owner now works a second job. Nurseries are on their knees and morale is low, parents could do a lot to support staff very simply but I guess they would rather have nurseries shut from lack of staff who have had enough than provide packs of nappies....that are cheaper anyway.

Robinni · 26/04/2023 18:53

@jannier when we had our DC at nursery we received a welcome pack.

This included a request for us to provide nappies, this could easily be amended to say “no pull ups” or an email sent.

Nurseries being on their knees is not the parents responsibility; they shouldn’t have to be support workers for staff.

Parents are sending their children to nursery because they have jobs and concerns of their own.

They pay their fees and expect a service.

Robinni · 26/04/2023 18:55

Really don’t get the point of this thread. Like nursery workers are expecting parents to be telepathic and preoccupied with their daily struggles…

Put it in a message what you want the parents to do and they will do it!

Okunevo · 26/04/2023 19:10

You need to let the parents know. I started putting DS in nappy pants at 5 months as I couldn't get a nappy on him. If he had been in nursery I would have sent in regular nappies if I'd been told (and wished the workers luck with that!).

ThickSkinnedSoWhat · 26/04/2023 22:13

Some entitled parents in here clearly. No doubt the same ones who'd complain if their child wasn't changed often enough due to the time it takes to change many pairs of nappy pants instead of nappies...

jannier · 26/04/2023 22:31

Robinni · 26/04/2023 18:53

@jannier when we had our DC at nursery we received a welcome pack.

This included a request for us to provide nappies, this could easily be amended to say “no pull ups” or an email sent.

Nurseries being on their knees is not the parents responsibility; they shouldn’t have to be support workers for staff.

Parents are sending their children to nursery because they have jobs and concerns of their own.

They pay their fees and expect a service.

Nappies are not pull ups so the welcome pack is clear. What problem does it give you sending nappies? Nobody is saying you can't use pull ups....send your child in them, pick child up in nappies replace with pull ups next change.....it takes staff away from being with your child you should want that surely.
Why deliberately be unsupportive when it makes no difference to you ....I think your school experience will be fun with that attitude.

Shoemadlady · 26/04/2023 22:32

Ballcactus · 26/04/2023 07:20

You know pull ups can be ripped off rather than pulled down the legs?

Sure they do, it's getting the fresh one on that's the issue 😉

jannier · 26/04/2023 22:33

Robinni · 26/04/2023 18:55

Really don’t get the point of this thread. Like nursery workers are expecting parents to be telepathic and preoccupied with their daily struggles…

Put it in a message what you want the parents to do and they will do it!

Isn't that the point of the thread? To let you know....nursery practitioner's have no voice to tell you through other means.

Robinni · 26/04/2023 22:55

jannier · 26/04/2023 22:31

Nappies are not pull ups so the welcome pack is clear. What problem does it give you sending nappies? Nobody is saying you can't use pull ups....send your child in them, pick child up in nappies replace with pull ups next change.....it takes staff away from being with your child you should want that surely.
Why deliberately be unsupportive when it makes no difference to you ....I think your school experience will be fun with that attitude.

Uuum @jannier I never sent my child in with pull ups…. Nor have I been unsupportive to nursery staff.

I said that

  1. it would be more proactive for disgruntled nursery workers to communicate their issues to parents in writing re. Pull ups and dungarees rather than expect the parents to be telepathic.

  2. parents shouldn’t have to shoulder emotionally supporting nursery workers with their plight, whatever that may be, they have problems of their own with their jobs and lives.

Already well into the school experience. Which is an entirely different scenario as it is free and I am not having to sacrifice a large portion of my salary to pay for it!

Nodancingshoes · 26/04/2023 22:55

In my lengthy experience it doesn't matter how many newsletters, notices, reminders, emails are sent out, children will still come to nursery in absolutely inappropriate and difficult clothing.... boots with laces, sandals with no socks, dungarees when potty training, no coat in the winter, no hat in the summer, expensive designer clothes, NO NAMES ON ANYTHING...🤣

Robinni · 26/04/2023 22:57

jannier · 26/04/2023 22:33

Isn't that the point of the thread? To let you know....nursery practitioner's have no voice to tell you through other means.

@jannier

EMAIL

FLYER

NEWSLETTER

SIGN ON THE DOOR

VERBAL COMMUNICATION WITH PARENTS AT DROP OFF/PICK UP

Are you being deliberately obtuse????

Robinni · 26/04/2023 23:03

@Nodancingshoes am guilty of the no names, and slightly pricey clothes but otherwise we complied with requests… including the dreaded having the Teddy home for a week and having to write its adventures up with pictures, what a nause that was.

It was a lovely nursery though, they always got flooded with presents at Xmas and all that.

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