Stop bringing children in dungarees and pull-ups please.

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From all nursery workers everywhere.

We hate pull-ups. They sag and are a bitch to change when you have a nappy round of 15 children.

You have to take off the child's trousers and shoes to put on a new one. Some parents even have the audacity of putting socks, tight and dungarees on one child.

And don't get me started on dungarees for toilet training children who cannot take them off themselves, why do that?

Today a child who uses the toilet came in with a baby grow?! How is the child suppose to go to the toilet by themselves with a done up baby grow?

Some children who are too big to fit on the changing table get changed standing up. It kills your back. Trust me.

I couldn't be doing that everyday with several children.

I have 3 children so I know that changing them at home standing up can be convient. But when you do it at work over and over again it hurts your back and then you can't perform your other duties effectively.

I have done this before.
But I feel guilty as it can touch the bottom of a dirty shoe before being put on. It doesn't feel hygienic so I dont do it that way.

What you would do for your child is diffent to how you would treat other children in nursery.

It seems like common sense to me, but then common sense is less common than you'd think!

Having said that, I didn't use pull ups as we were told they could hinder potty training (probably been proven otherwise since) and could change a 'normal' nappy whilst child was stood up.

DS2 loved his dungarees, and other than a small period between nappy and confidently potty trained wore them a lot. He was gutted when we couldn't get them in his size anymore. He's 16 now and I recently bought him some. He still loves them

Most dungarees do not.

As evident by me having to undo several as the child almost wets themselves or by me having to completely remove it to put on a pull up.

Unless you work in a nursery I can guarantee I have changed more children than you.

Yes but you've got to take the clothes off to get a clean pull up on !

They are fine if your child is still in nappies.

But if you are asking us to help with toilet training and to take them every 20 mins then they are a pain and until pick up time your child will be walking around with it undone and hanging out.

Also pull ups have changed.

Huggies used to have velcro on the sides so could be changed like a nappy but now they are all rip off variety.

They do hinder potty training. We have found that its better when a child has an accident and can feel that they are wet and we can explain to them about going to the toilet and remembering to ask (we would still take them every 20 min ish, even if they don't ask).
It just means that for the first month take a big bag of pants/ knickers and lots of trousers as they will have about 3/4 accidents in the day.

With puddle suits I prefer two pieces that way a child who is more independent can put it on themselves.

Also, snow suits for older children. We end up using a spare coat as we go out several times during the day and can't be putting it on and off.

Does it fuck! Even with one already naked child and a nappy it doesn't take "seconds". Nevermind 2, or in a professional setting 15 little ones with all kinds of fussy accessories.

How exactly does that help with putting a clean one on?

At £50-100 a day I’d say parents can put them in what they please.

Understand that during potty training it should be practical… which can be solved by sending out a flyer to parents stipulating what the children need to be wearing at whatever stage - simple.

I sent DC (pre potty training) in dungarees with poppers, they were cute! And no different to baby grows in terms of faff.

I used to be that parent but it only annoyed myself and DP as they didn’t attend /nursery preschool till later. I loved the tights/baby grow/dungaree combination. Brings back fond memories.

I used to work in creches. And I've paid over a thousand euro a month for creche.

You shouldn't be changing 15 kids at once, but on an individual basis as needed, and given I pay the cost of an actual mortgage for my child to go to creche, you can take the extra 30 seconds to put the pull up on properly if that's what I've chosen for my child.

the cheek!

Yes but you still need to put a new one on so still need to fully take trousers etc off, With a nappy you can keep trousers/tights etc round ankles

YANBU. Some kids outdoor stuff in particularly is totally unsuitable for toilet training/newly toilet trained children. I stopped putting DD in the all in one puddlesuits or ones with straps and made sure she just had elasticated waist waterproof trousers so she could easily pull them up and down. We never did pull-ups at nursery, didn't see the point v normal nappies anyway.

And how do you put on the new one?

Realistically, every nursery will have changing times. Usually 10, 2, and 4. Of course if they need changing outside that you might do so. Changing the kids on an ‘individual basis’ isn’t realistic when you have 20/25 kids to a room and it would lead to kids possibly being missed. It’s not helpful to make random comments that in practice would not work in most nurseries.

Agree. I didn’t even put my kids in these outfits as I hated all the buttons for rompers etc. always been trousers/leggings in this house (even when pull ups not used).

Ah okay fair enough!

Ha ha "extra 30 seconds"

To slip trousers back on? Less. I'm allowing the extra for shoes!

At £50-100 a day I’d say parents can put them in what they please.

This is such a dicky thing to say. You're talking about women (it's always women) earning minimum wage or a smidge above despite qualifications, experience and skill, who do an important job and generally do it very well. They keep your child safe and cared for despite being paid a pittance. Yes, childcare is too expensive, but take that up with your MP, not the person changing your child's nappy. Their days are far from easy, you should treat them with respect.

And send your child in practical clothes that can get wet, covered in paint and Bolognese.

I'd love to have a like button just for this post alone and I'm not usually a fan of like buttons.

Our nursery specifically requests pull ups so whilst I tend to send them in a wrap nappy (because I do a very last second change before we leave as it'll be 45 minutes till they're in) they're then changed into pull ups.

So yanbu to ask YOUR parents. YABU to assume you speak for every nursery

This is such a dicky thing to say. You're talking about women (it's always women) earning minimum wage or a smidge above despite qualifications, experience and skill, who do an important job and generally do it very well

No it isn't. I've been that woman, and I did do it very well. I was also well aware that it was not in anyway my job to tell parents how to dress their children or what type of nappies they should use.

I think they should be paid far better, but thats for them to take up with their employers. I pay a fortune and I don't need to change what works for my child for the convenience of the nursery worker. That's not how it works.

Same here! Hate the attitude of ‘I pay you so I can do what I like.’

Also what parents don’t like to hear is that it’s also about your child. If you send them in inappropriate clothing it hinders their attempts at building independence.