Page 6 | Stop bringing children in dungarees and pull-ups please.

Whatt · 2023-04-25T21:36:43+00:00

From all nursery workers everywhere. We hate pull-ups. They sag and are a bitch to change when you have a nappy round of 15 children. You have to take off the child's trousers and shoes to put on a new one. Some parents even have the audacity of putting socks, tight and dungarees on one child. And don't get me started on dungarees for toilet training children who cannot take them off themselves, why do that? Today a child who uses the toilet came in with a baby grow?! How is the child suppose to go to the toilet by themselves with a done up baby grow?

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00100001 · 26/04/2023 13:23

50percentNamaste50percentGoFuckYourself · 26/04/2023 13:19

Christ, calm down!

It's a nappy. Little kids wear them, nursery workers change them. WTF are you getting all worked up about?

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Because it's the attitude of " I pay y your wages so you do what I say" it's shit and not considerate of others.

00100001 · 26/04/2023 13:28

50percentNamaste50percentGoFuckYourself · 26/04/2023 13:18

No, thats not at all true, is it?
Putting your child in a pull up is not making ANY request, of any kind. The pull up is not affecting anyone else. It's not asking anything of anyone. The worker is simply complaining about doing their job: a nappy change.

that is their job, since when is "do your actual job" some sort of bizarre request akin to insisting on peanut butter when other kids have allergies?

I would say nice try, but it isn't. You're being ridiculous.

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But it is affecting other people.

You're making the workers life more difficult.

They're spending more time changing the kids than necessary, which means less time with their group.

So instead of spending (say) 2 minutes per change, they're spending 4 minutes because they now have to remove shoes etc and pull ups make more of a mess on the kids skin when dirty etc that's lost time doing other things.

Multiply that by the dozen or so nappy changes, it soon adds up. Just because you pay for a place, doesn't mean that parents can inconvenience the workers.

jannier · 26/04/2023 13:37

00100001 · 26/04/2023 07:34

How does that work? You must end up doing something like feeding it through the leg of the trousers?

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It takes a lot longer than trousers down nappy off....you still need to remove one shoe...nice if it's a tight fit like converse....then one leg out...faff around threading a leg through before putting on bare leg and redressing adds another 5 minutes to a two minute job.

Bunnichick · 26/04/2023 13:39

Heroicallyfound · 26/04/2023 07:22

This, or snip up the sides with scissors!

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Of course they can but you know you can't put a new one on that way?

jannier · 26/04/2023 13:40

febrezeme · 26/04/2023 08:14

YABU

Most Dungarees have poppers at the bottom. I have twins and they are in pull
Ups and I honestly can't see the fuss with having dungarees and pull ups takes me seconds to change each child

Seconds no way ...well obviously lots of seconds in minutes do you mean that lol.

jannier · 26/04/2023 13:41

imnotwhoyouthinkiam · 26/04/2023 08:53

It seems like common sense to me, but then common sense is less common than you'd think!

Having said that, I didn't use pull ups as we were told they could hinder potty training (probably been proven otherwise since) and could change a 'normal' nappy whilst child was stood up.

DS2 loved his dungarees, and other than a small period between nappy and confidently potty trained wore them a lot. He was gutted when we couldn't get them in his size anymore. He's 16 now and I recently bought him some. He still loves them

There not using them to potty train it's the wriggly baby rubbish...show baby a pull up and they go still advert....leak like a sieve and awful for runny pooh too.

jannier · 26/04/2023 13:43

50percentNamaste50percentGoFuckYourself · 26/04/2023 10:11

There's no disrespect, and your analogy is wrong.

It's more like the waitress telling you that you have to have your starter with your main because it's easier for her that way. It's not disrespectful for you to say no, actually, you will have the starter first.

It's childcare. You are paid to care for the child, you do not decide how the child is to be dressed or diapered or anything else outside of your remit.
That's not disrespect, that's reality.

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Why would you want staff taking time away from playing and supporting children to spend an hour changing nappies that should have been 30 minutes?

50percentNamaste50percentGoFuckYourself · 26/04/2023 13:46

jannier · 26/04/2023 13:43

Why would you want staff taking time away from playing and supporting children to spend an hour changing nappies that should have been 30 minutes?

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If it takes you an hour instead of 30 mins, you're doing it wrong.

Because one or two sometimes wear clothes that make it that tiniest bit harder is not really a big deal. It might add on a couple of minutes. So what?

And again, if it is affecting the operational duties of the staff, they should talk to their management.

This isn't hard.

jannier · 26/04/2023 14:02

50percentNamaste50percentGoFuckYourself · 26/04/2023 13:18

No, thats not at all true, is it?
Putting your child in a pull up is not making ANY request, of any kind. The pull up is not affecting anyone else. It's not asking anything of anyone. The worker is simply complaining about doing their job: a nappy change.

that is their job, since when is "do your actual job" some sort of bizarre request akin to insisting on peanut butter when other kids have allergies?

I would say nice try, but it isn't. You're being ridiculous.

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It does affect the children a nappy can be changed very quickly....I do 3 in the time several pull up mummies did their individual children that is time child is not playing and time staff isn't working with children. It's not rocket science .....and yes some staff are giving up working with children because on top of low wages parents are treating them so badly.

sofamarathon · 26/04/2023 14:04

People are idiots oP

jannier · 26/04/2023 14:04

50percentNamaste50percentGoFuckYourself · 26/04/2023 13:46

If it takes you an hour instead of 30 mins, you're doing it wrong.

Because one or two sometimes wear clothes that make it that tiniest bit harder is not really a big deal. It might add on a couple of minutes. So what?

And again, if it is affecting the operational duties of the staff, they should talk to their management.

This isn't hard.

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How long does it take you to find children in playroom or garden, get them inside, change them redress them and return them then clean down and repeat 20 times? Not forgetting fresh gloves

50percentNamaste50percentGoFuckYourself · 26/04/2023 14:05

jannier · 26/04/2023 14:04

How long does it take you to find children in playroom or garden, get them inside, change them redress them and return them then clean down and repeat 20 times? Not forgetting fresh gloves

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When I worked in creches we didn't need to find the children we caring for. We knew where they were.

I don't think anyone here knows how any of this works.

RichardHeed · 26/04/2023 14:07

pull trousers down to knee, remove nappy, clean, put nappy on, pull up trousers.
I've never grasped the art of this tbh. DD has an absolutely fit if her trousers are over her feet, even with shoes on. Tried it before, she squirmed and lifted around and kicked so much. Quicker just to pop shoes and trousers / dungas off and change and back on here.

NotAnotherBathBomb · 26/04/2023 14:08

Ballcactus · 26/04/2023 07:20

You know pull ups can be ripped off rather than pulled down the legs?

You know that the OP was referring to putting them back on again

NotAnotherBathBomb · 26/04/2023 14:09

Jogging bottoms are the best for potty training!

NotAnotherBathBomb · 26/04/2023 14:10

febrezeme · 26/04/2023 08:14

YABU

Most Dungarees have poppers at the bottom. I have twins and they are in pull
Ups and I honestly can't see the fuss with having dungarees and pull ups takes me seconds to change each child

Lies 😂 SECONDS? Omg pls stop. Just doing/undoing the poppers alone take a minute at the least.

50percentNamaste50percentGoFuckYourself · 26/04/2023 14:15

NotAnotherBathBomb · 26/04/2023 14:10

Lies 😂 SECONDS? Omg pls stop. Just doing/undoing the poppers alone take a minute at the least.

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Jesus, how slow are you? A full minute to do poppers?

Stephhh87 · 26/04/2023 14:18

Whatt · 26/04/2023 11:38

Managment are aware and we all jokingly complain about it but I dont think they will actively tell the parents what they can and can't dress their children in.

If I had my own nursery that would be something that was mentioned during the show around and prospective parents could take it or leave it and choose a different nursery.

For the pps who don't care about staff members time, back or patience you are fueling the childcare worker crisis.

We already have a member of staff who has been told by their GP to not do manual handling due to her back, this has increased the load on the rest of us and sometimes having an almost 2 hour nappy round can leave you feeling like shit. Remember, we are not changing still dolls, we are changing wriggling children.

We need time to put on an apron and gloves and to spray down and wipe the mat after each child. You don't do these things at home so when you think of changing a nappy it feels simple.

Can you remember changing a nappy when our shopping in a toilet that has a nappy changing table and how stressful it is to keep the child on the table, to make sure you have wiped everything correctly and pulled everything up? Well thats what its like x15.

We work to ratio and everytime we are doing extended nappy rounds thats another staff member out of the room not interacting with your child.

Why would you actively do something that causes more stress ?

I’m glad you’ve raised this before my LO starts nursery. Because I don’t want to make things difficult for the staff. They will be looking after my most precious being and their role is so invaluable to me.
also, I’d rather my child, along with the others, have more time to play/learn/interact/be outside etc rather than spending extra time waiting about on each other getting changed and so.

so it benefits that staff AND the children.
also my baby hates getting dressed lol so anything that makes change time quicker is a bonus.
also before my baby will start nursery at 1, so won’t be independent yet - do you think 2 piece puddlesuit is still better at that stage?

Stephhh87 · 26/04/2023 14:19

NotAnotherBathBomb · 26/04/2023 14:09

Jogging bottoms are the best for potty training!

Or being outside in the garden with no bottoms all summer haha (my sister did it with my nephew 😂)

Stephhh87 · 26/04/2023 14:21

jannier · 26/04/2023 13:40

Seconds no way ...well obviously lots of seconds in minutes do you mean that lol.

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500 seconds lol

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 26/04/2023 14:27

My lot are adult now, but my eldest daughter had to wear lace up boots to support her ankles (she had problems with toes turning in). I remember the sheer agonies of trying to change her, but I think I finally learned the knack of getting booted feet through the legholes!

jannier · 26/04/2023 16:01

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 26/04/2023 14:27

My lot are adult now, but my eldest daughter had to wear lace up boots to support her ankles (she had problems with toes turning in). I remember the sheer agonies of trying to change her, but I think I finally learned the knack of getting booted feet through the legholes!

Bet she didn't wear skinny jeans lol

jannier · 26/04/2023 16:03

50percentNamaste50percentGoFuckYourself · 26/04/2023 14:15

Jesus, how slow are you? A full minute to do poppers?

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You really are the expert how many years of changes have you done? Your talking to people who work with children why belittle them to prove some odd point

50percentNamaste50percentGoFuckYourself · 26/04/2023 16:04

jannier · 26/04/2023 16:03

You really are the expert how many years of changes have you done? Your talking to people who work with children why belittle them to prove some odd point

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Helps if you read the posts. I worked in creches for many years and have changed thousands of nappies. If you're taking an hour to do a group of children, you must be doing it blindfolded and backwards.

jannier · 26/04/2023 16:05

RichardHeed · 26/04/2023 14:07

pull trousers down to knee, remove nappy, clean, put nappy on, pull up trousers.
I've never grasped the art of this tbh. DD has an absolutely fit if her trousers are over her feet, even with shoes on. Tried it before, she squirmed and lifted around and kicked so much. Quicker just to pop shoes and trousers / dungas off and change and back on here.

They don't go over the shoes and because you're holding the legs there isn't much room for squirming but if they do you just say stay still and start singing or playing