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I gave up the school run and I feel Amazing but MIL thinks I’m lazy

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Feelsomuchbetter · 18/12/2024 11:25

I have ASD and ADHD . I struggle a lot. The school run has been hell for me. Dh drives past the school on his way to work so 3 months ago I asked him to please take the dc instead of me doing it. He was previously leaving 10 mins before we had to now he drops dc at breakfast club a bit earlier.

I feel SO much better. I’ve been able to wean myself off AD and I’m not mentally ruined by 9 am . MIL has been saying it’s not fair on dh !!!! That he should have a calm drive to work not stopping off at all ?? Dh is fine to do it he doesn’t mind, hasn’t complained .

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wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 18/12/2024 23:42

nutella8 · 18/12/2024 20:34

I'd side with MIL on this one...

Then you are every bit as bad as her!!

FFS the dad is only dropping his own kids off to school!!!!

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 18/12/2024 23:43

ForGreyKoala · 18/12/2024 20:36

Because he is also working, and possibly doing other things OP can't deal with.

What "other things"??

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 18/12/2024 23:47

Deja321 · 18/12/2024 21:18

You can if you know what to say. Unfortunately I know several people who get it and are absolutely fine. I also know someone who actually is severely disabled and got turned down. Some people know how to play every system and often the genuine ones go without.

That's not been my experience.

lemmein · 18/12/2024 23:58

That's not been my experience.

@wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting mine neither. Though someone who claims they know people on PIP who are 'absolutely fine' yet has actively contributed to kicking a struggling op with ND/MH probably isn't the best authority on such matters.

It reminds me of Michael McKyntyre's stand-up when he says people wait for those parking in disability spots to get out their car so they can judge their worthiness and anything short of dragging themselves across the floor on their elbows is just not disabled enough.

I thought we'd moved on a bit tbh - but it seems like we're going backwards.

lemmein · 19/12/2024 00:05

But he op said the playground was too busy for her that is my point.

@Oioisavaloy27 this is her post where she described in detail how the school run affects her. You focusing on one aspect isn't particularly helpful.

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selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/12/2024 00:14

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 18/12/2024 22:20

That's not fair.

There are many things that drive people to suicide, and many faucets of autism.

It's entirely fair. Autistic people are bombarded with negative messaging destroying our self-esteem from very early childhood.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/12/2024 00:18

lemmein · 18/12/2024 23:58

That's not been my experience.

@wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting mine neither. Though someone who claims they know people on PIP who are 'absolutely fine' yet has actively contributed to kicking a struggling op with ND/MH probably isn't the best authority on such matters.

It reminds me of Michael McKyntyre's stand-up when he says people wait for those parking in disability spots to get out their car so they can judge their worthiness and anything short of dragging themselves across the floor on their elbows is just not disabled enough.

I thought we'd moved on a bit tbh - but it seems like we're going backwards.

It reminds me of Michael McKyntyre's stand-up when he says people wait for those parking in disability spots to get out their car so they can judge their worthiness and anything short of dragging themselves across the floor on their elbows is just not disabled enough.

This is brilliant and so accurate. With disabilities that can't be seen, it's even worse. And mental health and neurodivergence get the worst rap of all.

https://the-art-of-autism.com/understanding-the-spectrum-a-comic-strip-explanation/ explains how different autistic people are affected differently by autism. Plenty of people on this thread should read this.

Understanding the spectrum – a comic strip explanation

By Rebecca Burgess   For printable PDF version in English click here.  For version in Spanish click here. French version click here.

https://the-art-of-autism.com/understanding-the-spectrum-a-comic-strip-explanation

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 19/12/2024 00:27

Three consecutive panels of that comic illustrate this thread perfectly.

"You can't drop your kids off at school? Well you shouldn't be volunteering in a completely different environment"

I gave up the school run and I feel Amazing but MIL thinks I’m lazy
EdithBond · 19/12/2024 01:24

sandyhappypeople · 18/12/2024 22:34

I don't think your DH is the concern here to be fair, it's a bit of a red herring, the mechanics of that part seems to work perfectly fine, I am in agreement with a lot of posters about the children having to have long days because of it though, it seems quite excessive, and I can understand why your MIL is concerned about it, calling you lazy is just showing her ignorance though to be fair, if she wants to raise legitimate concerns she needs to learn to be constructive.

The part I honestly can't comprehend though is that you plan to volunteer evenings and weekends in the hope of potentially getting a job there? Which will take you away from the children even more! It's bonkers OP, you already volunteer there, so if there was a job going you would hear about it, besides if there IS a job going, you may not even get it (and you definitely won't if you are not even qualified enough to apply for it at the moment).. that idea seems quite selfish IMO.

I'm trying to be understanding but it seems that you are focusing so much on you and what you need, you don't seem to be considering the wider impact it may be having on your children at all, it's all well and good that you are happy, and they don't mind having really long days, but aside from the financial implications, everyone having to do more so you can choose to do less will start to take it's toll, from the outside you seem to manage perfectly fine when it is something you want to do, but you need to start learning to manage when it is something the children want to do too, by putting whatever strategies you need in place, your DH seems incredibly supportive which is great, but you can't just opt out of parenting.

@sandyhappypeople, I genuinely don’t understand why it’s excessive for kids to do afterschool activities a couple of times a week. Don’t most primary age kids do that? Sports? Music? Clubs? Why would it be tiring for them? They get up at 7, which is a reasonable time when presumably school starts at 9 latest. Some kids (e.g. ones who’re really into swimming) train before school too. It’s only twice a week.

Lone parents, such as those alone due to bereavement, have to manage like this all the time. As do two parents who work full time. Or have disability or health needs to juggle.

I recruit people and someone who’s shown commitment to, and developed knowledge and skills via, unpaid work (e.g. volunteering) is in a much better position to obtain paid employment or get a better job. It also builds confidence and self worth. And OP is contributing to society and helping others.

I assume that when OP’s volunteering, the kids are either in school or with their father. Why’s that a problem if they’re all happy with that arrangement? Lots of parents do evening jobs or activities once the other parent’s home. OP’s hardly opting out of parenting. Why is helping yourself to get a job and be financially independent selfish? Most parents work.

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He might, because presumably he loves OP and is glad things are easier for her now. Imagine that!

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Feelsomuchbetter · 19/12/2024 09:01

Dh is fine. We are happy and the dc are happy.

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bittertwisted · 19/12/2024 09:08

The insult of being told I don't understand autism because I've not agreed with the OP
My eldest son is autistic, I know as well as anyone else the difficulties around sensory overload. However over the years he has been taught how to deal with situations he finds challenging ,because he wanted to live his life.
I watch how he interacts socially, makes eye contact, and I know he's learnt it, it's not natural

The OP can learn coping strategies to allow herself to change some of this, why is that being ableist?

The DH is not just taking the kids on the way to work, they are going 1.5 hours early every day. Kids who have 2 working parents have to do this, plus there are 2 working parents to pay for it, it's a huge amount of money with only one earner

And she did also say upthread that she doesn't do parents evening or play dates or parties. Rather than accusing people of being ableist, why aren't you helping her work out how to change this rather than just saying nobody understands, and her MIL is a nosy bitch

Yalta · 19/12/2024 09:27

ItOnlyTakesTwoMinutes · 18/12/2024 19:26

I do feel like these things can be navigated though, I really do. OP is a coherent, intelligent enough woman. There is a certain level of personal responsibility where we just need to get through things and get stuff done and contribute to the life we are living and the upbringing of the children. They are on UC and paying £24 a day twice a week for childcare they don’t need.

You don’t understand ND

If this works then it is a small price to pay.

If we could get stuff done then we wouldn’t be ND

I would say the £24 a day twice per week childcare is very much something that is needed

DinDjarin1 · 19/12/2024 09:31

Corknut · 18/12/2024 20:07

I’m torn on this because I have fairly severe adhd but work part time, do the school runs and most school admin/housework etc. My DH works full time so I suppose I feel it’s up to me to support where I can. If I was really struggling my husband could drop off some days at a push but not pick up. He helps massively with household chores but is exhausted from work (quite manual) whereas I work in an office type role. I don’t like school runs and in all honesty struggle with a lot day to day but I try to support my family and ‘get through’ or get myself to a better place with things at least. I have recently started medication. I suppose for me not doing these things is worse and will send me into a bad place if I’m not busy, perhaps this is not the same for you. Not sure where I’m going with this reply except that I probably do think it is unfair on your DH and although it’s none of her business, I can see where your MIL is coming from.

I too have ADHD and the school run is horrid but have to do it as hubby travels/works long hours so very rarely can do any drop offs/pick ups but if he could and he was happy to do it because he knows how much it mentally affects me he would and so I don't see why OP should be made to feel guilty for this or called lazy by the MIL.

What I find shocking is there is one poster that claims to be autistic and has two autistic kids but is going hard after OP for not doing the school runs. Perhaps she's triggered because she didn't get the same opportunity not to do the school run.

QuickOpalOrca · 19/12/2024 09:38

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Feelsomuchbetter · 19/12/2024 09:44

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I’ve actually asked him I ask him a lot I always feel like I need to check things are ok. He has time to go to the gym twice a week and has a hobby on a Sunday he does for a few hours. We have lots of family time and take the dc out usually on a Saturday . He seems fine and he says he is fine and happy.

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camerasupply · 19/12/2024 09:47

bittertwisted · 19/12/2024 09:08

The insult of being told I don't understand autism because I've not agreed with the OP
My eldest son is autistic, I know as well as anyone else the difficulties around sensory overload. However over the years he has been taught how to deal with situations he finds challenging ,because he wanted to live his life.
I watch how he interacts socially, makes eye contact, and I know he's learnt it, it's not natural

The OP can learn coping strategies to allow herself to change some of this, why is that being ableist?

The DH is not just taking the kids on the way to work, they are going 1.5 hours early every day. Kids who have 2 working parents have to do this, plus there are 2 working parents to pay for it, it's a huge amount of money with only one earner

And she did also say upthread that she doesn't do parents evening or play dates or parties. Rather than accusing people of being ableist, why aren't you helping her work out how to change this rather than just saying nobody understands, and her MIL is a nosy bitch

If you had done any learning on autism and not just taken at face value what your DS can do, you would know that every single autistic person is different in what they can handle on a daily basis. One person may have extreme sensory issues but be able to socialise, whereas another may not have any sensory sensitivities at all but be absolutely crippled with social stress to the point they are electively mute.

So no you do NOT know about autism so time to get down off your high horse.

BellaCriesAndThatsAlright · 19/12/2024 09:49

camerasupply · 19/12/2024 09:47

If you had done any learning on autism and not just taken at face value what your DS can do, you would know that every single autistic person is different in what they can handle on a daily basis. One person may have extreme sensory issues but be able to socialise, whereas another may not have any sensory sensitivities at all but be absolutely crippled with social stress to the point they are electively mute.

So no you do NOT know about autism so time to get down off your high horse.

Also, this can change throughout a person's life. A person might cope fine when it is just them and they have support in place. When life changes - such as when they become a parent - coping can look very different.

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I obviously can't answer what OP does, but you can phone your local hospital and ask for their volunteer dept/services. Or Google and drop an email. Hospitals are always crying out for help.
Ours offer all sorts. Some offer companionship - so many people feel lonely/anxious etc and it does wonders to have a listening ear. They do tea rounds, pharmacy runs, escort to the shop and back etc and those are just the things on the wards they help with.

Feelsomuchbetter · 19/12/2024 11:14

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It was on the trust website (Imperial) they have all the vacancies on there

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Surelythistime · 18/12/2024 21:42

This thread is just so sad and is just an example of how society sees people with ADHD/Autism Sad

Sickening isn’t it.

Surelythistime · 19/12/2024 13:13

OriginalUsername2 · 19/12/2024 12:03

Sickening isn’t it.

And the worrying thing is some of these people will be employers, managers, maybe even health care professionals.

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