PIP cuts- what happens next?

[Orangesandlemons77]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp3q7584v07o

So this goes to a vote next month? What then does anyone know please?

Thank you for providing all those useful links, OP.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/06/21/starmer-clamps-down-on-labour-welfare-rebels/#main-content

No problem, maybe it is giving me a feeling of doing something about it!

I provided a link to some examples on the PIP petition?

Here VivienneMary https://www.change.org/p/stop-the-new-4-point-pip-rule/feed

Couple of examples

I get pip myself. I have rheumatoid arthritis throughout my whole body, fibromyalgia, lupus sle, and a prolapse disc in my back. I rely on this money to help me etc. The thought of what the government is doing is so wrong, there targeting the wrong people as per usual. I've been living with these conditions since I was 24, I am now 53. This government want to try living with chronic illnesses and see how they'd cope. All this is stressing me out more, it's so unfair what they r doing.

I have fibromyalgia, arthritis in my back and hands I'm so worried about this with labour try to stop people pip. I'm in so much pain cause my stress levels have gone up. We need to stop this going through

After 4 major spinal surgeries and a career of 37 years I found myself medically retired. I had worked with disability for over 20 years until it became impossible. To add insult to injury I then applied for PIP one of the most degrading and humiliating processes of my life. I was awarded standard rate for care and mobility. Although I score at the higher end of standard care I do not score 4 on any single descriptor which means I will lose this vital financial support under this cruel rule change.

https://www.change.org/p/tax-wealth-don-t-cut-disability-support?recruiter=1159899986&recruited_by_id=ee450700-1545-11eb-b9d2-a7afe27c80a7&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_content=cl_sharecopy_490498896_en-GB%3A9

RNIB are concerned it's going to affect people like me who are disabled enough that we're registered partially sighted.

I currently use pip to pay for my mum to accompany me to medical appointments (I have 1 every 12 weeks which is a 22 mile round trip) and to do things like take me shopping and to cook me a meal so I'm not living off ready meals

My DH has a very rare, incurable neurological condition. He worked from 16 to late 50s. He now can't walk more that a couple of steps with a walker, so uses a wheelchair, can't stand unaided and has other issues that I am not going to go into here.

He gets PIP higher rate daily living and mobility. As oranges says, it was a horrible, degrading, process.

Even with all this, he "only" scored 2 X 4s, which any assessor could decide to reduce on review and PIP entitlement would be gone. Obviously we would win on appeal if that happened, but the stress would be awful.

Those examples were from people on the petition, but I am an example I guess.

I have mental health problems and on strong medication, antipsychotics, and SSRIs which cause side effects, also have a severe bowel condition and have been put in the support group of ESA

But with PIP although I get the enhanced rate for care they have scored me 6 X 2 points so although 12 overall, I won't qualify anymore because of not scoring 4 points in any one section.

I have in the past though but recently had them taken away, replaced by 2. I will appeal in future but it will be a long stressful process and money will be cut in the meantime.

I have to buy nutritional drinks for my bowel condition which the NHS used to prescribe but don't anymore. I have also had to give up my profession as a teacher due to my health problems.

I suggest you go away and do some research. Your stance seems to be that it is younger people with what you perceive as "anxiety" who will be most affected by the changes to the way PIP is awarded.

You couldn't be more wrong. The people most affected will be those who are 30+, have a physical disability and, to put the icing on the cake, are female.

https://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/most-at-risk-pip-health-conditions-revealed

Benefits and Work has obtained details of the conditions which have the highest number of awards with no 4-point or higher descriptors.

The figures, provided under the Freedom of Information Act, show that Labour's PIP cuts are overwhelmingly aimed at older, but still working age, claimants with physical health conditions, many of whom will have been employed for most of their adult life and many of whom will still be employed..

Almost half (46%) of all working age PIP claimants are at risk of losing their award on review from November 2026

Viv's gone a bit quiet.

So this vote is the 1st, next Tuesday, or the 30th Monday? I guess we will know more then

I get 18 points of Daily Living and 22 points on Mobility.

Guess how many scores of ‘4’ I get in DL? One. Just one ‘4’. I am very severely disabled, have paid tax and NI for decades, am still a few years away from state pension age, still working freelance (I was a university academic), and don’t claim UC, and I’m in an extremely precarious and vulnerable position regarding PIP as that ‘4’ could be taken away at any time.

PIP opens doors to me that I need: blue badge, disabled rail card, disabled bus pass, carers’ discounts, for example. These enable me to function in society.

https://www.thisisthecoast.co.uk/news/local-news/scarborough-and-whitby-mp-cant-support-pip-changes-in-current-form/

Disabled People Against Cuts had already announced a protest rally in Parliament Square on Monday 30 June, starting at 4.30pm and it’s likely that other protests will take place around the country.

Anyone going to this? I would like to but ironically, it is quite expensive for me to travel into London

I would like to attend, but at the moment just getting around my own home is enough to deal with. I hope that there is a lot of support though, and the Government actually takes notice of the strength of feeling about these proposed cuts, and the vulnerable people who will be affected by these cruel, unnecessary changes.

The media have been extremely quiet on this...... my sense is it will all get kicked into the long grass (fingers crossed).

It's a bit weird isn't it. I guess we will hear more towards the day of the vote... perhaps

Hopefully this could be one of the first nails in the bill's coffin.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/23/labour-mps-launch-major-rebellion-to-stop-benefits-cuts-bill

Apparently they want to make pip means tested & so theyve done this so people vote against it and they can change it to means tested as “nicer” way of saving money? Was on fightback fb page.

They’d then also have to means test Attendance Allowance and DLA and I don’t think any government wants the optics of going after ill pensioners and disabled children.

Look at the debacle over the Winter Fuel Payment.