D'y ever wonder how life got like this?

[FrumpyGrumpy]

New to MN but like what I read so far. Struggling to get by day by day at the minute and feeling isolated but not enough to make the effort to join in the 'groups' the whole world seems to think are just what I need!!!!

Have daughter of 4 and girl and boy twins of eight months. Not had time since they were born when all three kids have been well, am I just cursed? Throw in a house move that took 6 months, a partner that works away most of the week and a mother-in-law I can wait another lifetime to deal with and I've ended up the sort of person I used to look at and wonder how life got like that.

Anyone give me hope that when the babes are eighteen months I'll feel better?!! If not, anyone tell me that alternate nights of gin then chocolate is an ok passage through?

pmsl

Excellent!

I shall sit back in my now silent house. Bliss is mine!

Hrmmpf!

No bliss for me til I get them all in the car and go on a looong drive with the stereo up full. I love it when they are all strapped down, unnable to make mess, destroy things, or tear strips of each other.

Hey Custy, get your cocaine ass off that chair and open the door! Like Mars and Kelly, mine are scrubbed clean with clean vests in their bags and on your doorstep honey, cheers babe, only a mother of twins plus knows how to save the lives of her fellow plate spinners . Mine are bringing a loaf for the morning......and can supply their own drugs if need be......

DP gone again. DT2 and me shared a horrid virus a couple of weeks back which left us with no voices and which has been lingering. His flared up again just before we left for the posh hotel (he stayed behind with my mum) and I waaaaas fine until through the night. I HAVE BLOODY, SHITEY, CRAPPY, ROTTENARSE FLU NOW!!! I ache from top to toe and alternate between sweats (attractive) and shivers (more attractive) and the watery mouth you get just before you vomit. (Happily I can't vomit because I also feel sick at the thought of food and drink). I am awaiting a delivery (please be soon) and I'm going to bed 2 minutes after it arrives.

Jeezo, no joyous posts from Frumpy. The name remains to protect the innocent.......

Delivery arrived, doors locked, night all x.

oh FG honey! Wishing you better!

oh FG honey! Wishing you better!

oh FG honey! Wishing you better!

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Mars, I'm overwhemled by your wishes !

I slept longer due to my early night (couldn't sleep til 10pm though) and was wrenched out of bed three times with DT1. However DD didn't get up for a wee last night (first time in a loooooong time) so that was a bonus. Still feel like I have swallowed a dagger though and I'm going to the docs on Friday morning to blame him for it all and order him to fix everything!!!

Our thread has passed its first birthday and if I was in better health I'd pour a glass of something with the power to mellow me into a sentimental stupor. It will wait though and I'll toast us then. Aren't we doing well!

HM, still cooking your bun happily?
Kelly, still happy with your inlaws?
Mars, still got hunky men at salsa?

By the way, DT1 flirted outrageously with a waiter over breakfast one morning when we were away. I was so proud of her because he was a sight you see but a few times in life. I'm 33 and I felt like some old wench as I smiled under my eyelashes back at him, he was heaven, and spanish I think, and had black curly-ish hair. He didn't stop smiling (at her!!!) and neither could I. Sigh.

DT1 kissed a hunky man on the television the other day. She saw a guy she liked and she walked up to the tv and kissed him! lol

Depends on your definition of hunky men FG.

Sorry you're still feeling rough. Remember...your convalescence home is here!

You have sent me back somewhere Mars, somewhere that could have been lost forever..... Do you remember the bit between tv programmes many moons ago when you had a man or lady sitting in a swivel chair and they chatted for 30 seconds about the last programme and then about what was coming on next? (Someone agree with me or I really will believe I've been abducted by aliens.)

Weeeellllll...... when you said your DT1 kissed the tv, that brought back a memory that when I was really little I did the very same. It was the man in the swivel chair and I thought he was just the bees knees. One day when they were on a close up of his face the temptation to get right up close and personal got to much and I KISSED HIM!!!!! And I left a greasy spot on the telly that fascinated me all day.

I'm not sure if I should be proud or ashamed of that story. Its not even interesting. Barely raises a titter really. I just got a memory and my fingers did the rest. His name was Gordon someone. I still remember what he looks like. I wouldn't kiss him now though. Well, maybe if he said he was a throat doctor and one kiss would cure everything. Oh I think I've fallen for that line before somehow.......

I'm trying to be in bed but DT1 is doing the crying thing.....again.......

Nite girls x,

lol FG.

My DTs were terrible tonight. I missed the end of the Arsenal game settling them. Sigh..................

God, they just don't get it do they? Should tape it and put it on instead of CBeebies. I only really follow footie when the tartan army are out in force, entertainment aaaaallll the way. Mind you, legs, shorts .....

Remind me I'm feeling crap, tell me to go to bed as I already regret not being there.

Sorry to barge in.

MDM - see you will be at the YumYum meet-up. Will be looking forward to meeting another twin mum.

Nothing to report from this end. My DTs have been an absolute delight, still sleeping 6 till 6, (sorry) but they are only 5 months old - so I'm sure it will get harder.

Have been interviewing nannies - I'm back to work in June. Think I have found one.

Did have a problem with another one that interviewed very well, but her refs. came back dreadful. She had left the kids with her husband WITHOUT telling the parents...........

You're not barging in GO. You're a twin mum too, so you dive in as and when you want to.

Yes, have booked Yum Yum in my diary and am really hoping that I get there. Would be nice to meet you too.

FG...............why would you waste precious sleeping moments?
Kelly....study?
HM....... how you feeling darling? Ginger, peppermint.... they're good for sickness (though if I never taste either substance again after the DTs pregnancy!!!!!!)

Hi go, glad to hear it all going well. Good luck on finding the nanny soon.

fg, hope you feelign better today?

hm, I found ipececuana good for morning sickness, it's a herbal remedy.

The study is finally getting back underway. Manges two evenings since got laptop back, so we're getting there again. Plus dp's bro has offered to have the dts on his day off next week so will give me a free day to write the tma. Can't quite decide if he is crazy or jsut incredibly brave.

Yesterday, they managed to have another go at wreckign my laptop - I shut it, hid it under a cushion and shay still found it, hurled it on the floor and so wrecked the networking card socket. He then pulled off a few more keys. They are driving me up the wall atm! U can see the little monster \link{http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=1700&threadid=163526&stamp=060412173008\here}

Kelly, he is a sweet babe. Maybe I should do that to my pringles and save my lardy ass .

Feel a bit better, body not so sore. I just need my head amputated and I'll be fine.

HM my sickness lasted morning, noon and night for about 4 months. Eventually I would manage to find one thing that I could stomach and nibble just a tiny bit throughout the day and nothing else. First it was banana milkshake for about two weeks, then baked potato with salt. Just tiny bits to take the edge of the worst away. I also took a ginger tincture in water but I felt so crap I couldn't say if it worked. I'd have eaten rhinos toenails if it would have made me better .

Hi sorry to barge in but iiiiiiiiiiii'm a new mum to twins - they're 6 weeks old and I want to start getting them into a routine. Any advice on how to go about this?

Hi! Barge-ins are most welcomed here! Congratulations on your wee bundles and tell us more, b/g?, any others?, good pregnancy/birth?, shoe size, bust size and how much alcohol do you consume, that should do for now!!!

I smile at the word routine. DTs and routine, together, its the big thing that they resist! Mine were way off being able to do a routine at 6 weeks but it does depend on the baby and its a good time to begin even if it takes a while to form. Lots of mums with DTs have success at feeding them at the same time but personally, mine resisted this for a long while. I always had one that fed better and so couldn't feed when the next one would etc. I did try to roughly time the feeds and start and end the day at the same time but I think they were more like 3/4 months before this was really possible. I always made sleep times and bath times the same from quite an early age and that helped a bunch, i.e. I lifted my DTs from bed at breakfast time regardless of what time they were last up and we began the day. Again, this was probably a wee bit older.

Please join in with us whenever you can, there's usually someone around every day. Best of luck sweetheart and peaceful nights!

Hi.

Thanks for the advice.

Some info - I've got a boy and a girl - Oliver (weighed 5lb 12oz) and Rebekah (6lb 1oz). Also have dd, Meagan who has just turned 3. Knew it would be hard but not like this! Luckily have fantastic parents who are willing helpers.

Guess I'm geing a bit ambitious with a routine, although I have introduced a bath/bedtime routine which seems to have worked so far although it has only been three days.

They don't really feed at the same time but like you one feeds quicker than the other. They more or less go three hours between feeds so there is some sort of pattern. Just wanted to feel that I did something other than feed, change and make up bottles!!

M

hi meggie,

Congrats on the twins! Can't advise much as I jsut sort of went with the flow mostly I think. Eventually I noticed that they tended to fall into their own routine and I went along with it and encouraged that. Mine wouldn't feed at the same time until they got a bit older.

I did do a dream feed - about 10pm in the hope that they would sleep for longer at the beginning of the night. This worked, but they are still having it at 13months old now! I also started putting them in the bedroom from about that age in the evening, slowly bringing it back from 9pm, until they were going to bed at 6pm, which gives me the evenings free. I never did a bathtime routine as babies don't really need baths and I saw it as more work. In our house bathtime is playtime.

Moan alert!

I am really pissed off atm. I had an fight with a crash barrier yesterday and I think I came off worse. It went up without warning and smacked me in the face. My top teeth were driven all the way through the inside of my lower lip, coming out the other side, 1cm below my lip. It bloody hurts, I didn't sleep much and I feel sick.

To top it off had a row with dp. He is great most of the time, but he soemtimes finds it hard with ds's sn, and doesn't have the patience. Plus he is fed up with all the catching up i've had to do with the OU work. So he's been moaning at me this morn then had a go at ds, and I lost it with him.

I want to go to bed.

Hi

What a morning I've had! DT1 was up at 5am and refused to go back to sleep. DT2 went back to bed with daddy fine. I thought right, I'm going to get organised this morning but ds had other ideas. Eventually settled him by 6.30. At 7 dd2 woke up followed by dd1 at 7.10. I then spent the rest of the morning feeding and winding DTs with them eventually falling alseep about 30 minutes ago. Dd1 finally got her juice she asked for at 8am.

The annoying thing is that having finally got them to sleep my HV is coming at 1pm to do their 6 week check so they're going to be woken up again. AArgh

Kelly - hope your Ok. I find that bathtime wears them out and makes them sleepy. Bedtime has usually been at about 8pm since having baths.

Sounds like you ds gets it from your partner like my dd does from her daddy. She's been to grandmas for a few days break from the constant nagging. Trouble is she's now being a pain due to lack to attention.

How do you guys organise simple trips out to the Post Office. I can't seem to get them awake at the same time to make the trip and I'm loathed to wake one of them when I've battled to get them to sleep?

Melanie

Oh Kelly darling , I'm worried for you! That sounds just awful. You must have got such a fright. I wish I was nearer and I'd have come over, send you to bed with a hot water bottle, an ice pack, some paracentamol, a cup of tea and a bar of chocolate, not to forget a cuddle before I rounded up your mob and took them all away (with the ironing). How is it today? Don't you think you should let someone take a look and check you over? If not the doc then maybe the dentist to check your jaw hasn't been pushed out of line.

Sending you all the best wishes I can round up xxxx.

Meggie, its so tough at this age - you really do just feed, change, feed, change, put a load of washing on, feed, change, grab a shower and its nighttime and it continues.... Mine always fell asleep when in the buggy so I used that time to try to regulate them a bit. It meant when I got home they both needed fed (with one pair of hands and my dd needing me) but I used to leave one in the garden in the buggy (the one that fell asleep second) and sort one baby and dd then put that baby onto a playgym or in the swing whilst I brought the next one in. Then it was a case of moving that one on to the bouncy chair while the second one got the playgym etc. If you're lucky you get a couple of moments of happy kids so you can wee. I never minded waking mine out of a sleep really because you're ultimately wanting them to sleep at night so it doesn't really matter if they get broken day sleep, albeit that its trickierfor you. My recipe for survival in the earliest of days was "you can be in the house with us if you're happy to look around and smile, you can be in the house feeding or sleeping, but if you're gona cry us up the wall you'll have to be swaddled in your buggy and cry up to the sky"!!!! Some may say cruel, I said survival. They don't remember. It doesn't harm them. I didn't mind leaving one outside because I really felt my DD needed some normality and with one newborn in the house I could do that. She'd colour beside me, I'd feed, change and chat with her. She's always been quite loving toward the DTs and I think thats cos she always felt that she still had a place in the heart of the family. When all else fails, telly and a bag of crisps for the oldest - you can sort out the diet problems later........

Expect to get little or nothing done in a day. I'm still trying to do that and still getting frustrated! Good luck honey, this is the REEEEAAAAALLLLY tough time.

Hi

Didn't think about waking then during the day not being a problem as yes you're right I do want them to sleep at night. I guess I would have took them out this morning but the weather wasn't right for leaving them asleep in the garden and I can't get the buggy through the door!! I'm determined toi make the PO and the park tomorrow - stuff the ironing thats waiting to be done.

I think the hardest thing I have found is finding the time for eldest dd and I do try to chat with her when dealing with DTs. Its amazing how much telly she has watched since DTs arrived - against my better judgement. I now feel that the CBeebies presenters are my new best friends! I do like you suggestion of her colouring near you - Meggie loves drawing of any sort.

How old are your twins? Has it got any easier since they were born? Please tell me it has. Mine have colds at the moment although we are over the worst of it now.

Melanie

Hi

Didn't think about waking then during the day not being a problem as yes you're right I do want them to sleep at night. I guess I would have took them out this morning but the weather wasn't right for leaving them asleep in the garden and I can't get the buggy through the door!! I'm determined toi make the PO and the park tomorrow - stuff the ironing thats waiting to be done.

I think the hardest thing I have found is finding the time for eldest dd and I do try to chat with her when dealing with DTs. Its amazing how much telly she has watched since DTs arrived - against my better judgement. I now feel that the CBeebies presenters are my new best friends! I do like you suggestion of her colouring near you - Meggie loves drawing of any sort.

How old are your twins? Has it got any easier since they were born? Please tell me it has. Mine have colds at the moment although we are over the worst of it now.

Melanie