One in six PIP claimants have no extra costs linked to their disability

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/40693771/pip-claimants-disability-benefit/
So, can money be saved here?

Disability benefits are based on extra care needs not diagnosis. The only person you're hurting by not getting her a diagnosis is your daughter. A 'label' can actually get her real world support she needs in education, work places, if she struggles at airports, concerts, grocery shopping. Everyday real life things she has a right to enjoy.

Or the gov could just provide this in the first place and then people wouldn't need to claim pip (or as much pip). Why aren't they providing it already?

Didn't read quoted post properly.

This thread just highlights a lot of posters ignorance about disability, and the impact that it has on people's lives, and finances. Anybody, as it has been pointed out on the other zillion threads like this, can become disabled.

In that very extreme situation I would claim what I was entitled to, like everyone else! In the past I have been in a position where I could have claimed,but didn’t until I really had to.

You do realise that many PIP/ADP claimants work, don’t you? And that’s because the benefit helps them to do that? Or that many claimants worked until they no longer could, or weren’t wanted by their employers? ‘Reasonable adjustments’ don’t stretch to paying someone else to do your job for you.

I’m sick of people like this poster who aren’t able to think critically and realise it’s a very nuanced subject.

The quoted poster is very narrow minded.

Or you could have just got an EHCP and tax payers would have funded it anyway 😂.

Sigh, sometimes what is provided on the NHS, is not suitable for some people, and they have to still buy their own aids, extra supplies, etc.

To be clear, approximately 16% of PIP claimants are in any type of work. Which is why means testing it would be an expensive folly.

and the reason there is no cash is because

Bozo, Sunak and the other shiny-suited spivs rinsed the country for 14 years and ran off in 2024, leaving an empty safe and a infinitesimal IOU to the present day and long into the foreseeable

Oooh one PIP or DLA post a day. Excellent. Really coming in hot now

To give you an example, my BIL has a mild disability which doesn’t need specialist equipment or medication. He will freely admit the disability doesn’t hamper him in life and spends it on cruising.

Because the system is complex and hard to navigate?

Go to work you say? What about the people that can only work because they have been awarded PIP? Take their PIP away and guess what? They can't work.

Yes because it’s topical.

I do believe you are referring to your keyboard

So he choose to have his disability to live of PIP?

Which would cost more

Some of us require other things than just equipment - higher heating and water bills, higher food bills, taxis, etc

That makes no sense. What system?

Don’t give up your day job as a comedian!

lol.

genuinely lol

the imf have never ever taken control of a countries budget nor are they likely to do so.

they issue many many reports on many countries throughout the world and they often warn about things.

this does not mean that the things then come to pass.

The imf is an international institution governed by its rules. It has specific jobs to do including training officials from low and middle income countries in financial policy making, being a lender to governments and advising on economic policy.

it absolutely is NOT capable of nor would it want to run a country.

if you require information on the IMF their website is very clear on what they do.

https://www.imf.org/en/about

also they are not the bond markets nor do they control the bond markets.

yes, Andy Burnham has a line to walk between keeping the government reasonably financially stable but he also needs to have the country on side for welfare cuts and Keir Starmer notably failed on that.

Andy is doing a good job so far.

if PIP went completely then the vast majority of the money that goes on it would simply be spent by social care instead as an awful lot of people on pip are relatively elderly and either in a care home or in receipt of a care package at home or in sheltered housing/a group home.

it genuinely will not save much money to get rid of it and it will cause a lot of suffering that will make the news and swing opinion against the government.

people now are all up in arms about they all know someone who has a kid with adhd who is scamming the system but when their dad gets cancer and gets told he isn’t eligible for any benefits because disability benefits don’t exist anymore and he needs to work until he dies…. Well, that’ll piss people off much more.

what?

you mean like zit cream for arse pimples? 😂

Do you know how long waiting lists already are for therapies and physio? All that will do is make waiting lists longer and take away people's option to pay for private therapies and physio.

Perhaps a special tariff for water, heating?

I don’t think we’d get to the point where the IMF take over. I do think the IMF can push bond yields up.

Ultimately - asking how the country can continue to fund a growing welfare bill when borrowing costs are increasing is sensible, not unreasonable.