One in six PIP claimants have no extra costs linked to their disability

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/40693771/pip-claimants-disability-benefit/
So, can money be saved here?

I have to go to bed straight after work because my neurological condition means I can't hold my head up or talk clearly by the end of the day and my vision stops working. But having read the criteria I fail to see how I would qualify for PIP unless I embellished in my application

Based on what baseline tax rate per hectare and what adjustments to baseline based on road access, utility access, proximity to services, etc?

Again, what about all those people unfortunate enough to be disabled but who don't quite meet the current thresholds for Pip? Why should we be penalised? It's not a binary between rude health Vs pip claimant.

You would be able to score points on activity 1 at least. Maybe activity 7 &/or 8.

I’d go with that. Reinvest the savings into provisions for all kids inc breakfast/lunch/dinner clubs, wraparound care, better school equipment and access to extracurricular activities. Things that would benefit all kids and society as a whole

What do we do with kids who can’t access wraparound or extra curricular activities, in that case?

It wouldn't be all kids though, would it?

Haha. There’s a reason it didn’t take off in the 18th Century…!

You do realise having “wealth” in the form of land doesn’t mean you have cash available to pay the tax?

Also, why should we “hit” the folk you’ve described? It’s their land, not yours nor mine. Why do you feel so entitled to it?

Well, when the form asks "can you cook a meal?", your answer is "no" because you can't when your condition hits you and you are not "embellishing" when you tick "no" because it's the truth.

Recent events in my life, where I've had to try to operate outwith my home environment for several weeks with someone else dependant on me, have made me contemplate applying for PIP for the first time ever. I've realised very unpleasantly just how much of my ability to cope every day is because I have carefully configured my entire home environment to have the least cognitive work and least sensory discomfort possible, and I have spent thousands on this.

Are you going to offer my disabled child who can't communicate properly a job then?

I have a friend with photophobia. She can't switch the sun off.

Exactly. She’s not thought it through.

Just another example of green eyed monster economics by someone looking for more of someone else’s money to spend…

And we all remember the issue with those type of policies…: “they’re great till there’s no more of someone else’s money to spend…”

Actually, it's all stolen land. Every piece of "owned" land was first taken from the commons by force of arms. Paying rent to the commons is the least we can do to compensate for our possession of stolen land.

Why on earth would you want to penalise bastions of education, the Church of England, and Royal Family who objectively generate more money for the country that what they cost….?

Aside from “tax the rich”-esque political point scoring, where’s the logic in that?!

Looking to tax those who can afford it instead of starving those who have the least isn't "green eyed monster", it's prioritising people's lives over property, otherwise known as "basic human decency".

So those in unearned social housing never have to move when their circumstances change, but those that own their own home (and land) as a result of paying for them do? How’s that work?

The CoE are leeches with no place in the Lords. Look up "chancel liability" for how the CoE have, until about thirty seconds ago, made a subset of homeowners responsible for paying for church repairs.

1. Bedroom tax forces social tenants and housing benefits recipients to move.
2. Increase in house value is unearned wealth.

i don’t follow, sorry. Why couldn’t they access them? They’d be provided for, all they have to do is attend.

Analogous to breakfast clubs now, all they have to do is attend.

Should they not wish to attend then grand, that’s their (parent’s) prerogative but at least the option is there.

Why not? Universal provision. Unless you want to target some kids to miss out?

Perhaps not, but it shouldn't be automatic acceptance when others are jumping through hoops to prove they have disabilities. I don't resent them claiming if it's needed, but I did feel it was unfair the way it was handled.

Yeah you're not wrong. Everyone is different. It seems unfair if you tried to get pip but they refused you even though work/activity makes you so unwell. I hope you are entitled to some support for your health issues?

Not all disabled children can attend wraparound care including breakfast clubs etc.

Would sun glasses work? There’s strong Cat 4 type for example that mountaineers use when at altitude.

They’re only about £100 (or at least were when I last bought them).

there’s presumably also medical equivalents if there’s an established medical need.