BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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A bit of information for those curious about MLM.
Forever Living goes tits up https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/
The Dream
The Secrets of the Multilevel Millionaires
Recruitment fibs https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/the-recruiting-lies-mlms-tell-you/
Why did they leave MLM? https://mlmtruth.org/2020/06/18/breaking-up-with-your-mlm/
Infographic mlmtruth.org/infographic/

oh I agree totally I'm lucky enough to live in a big town in the south a quick search on the popular job search engines list many part time jobs bars and resturants.

Yep same here in Bath - I think the problem is people get the ‘6 figure earnings for 10 hours week ‘bullshit in their brain , not the more likely £80 a month for hassling all your mates to buy and losing friendships etc - there may have been money to make at one point - there really isn’t now, most people are wise to these things-then again people’s capacity to believe bullshit never ceases to amaze me-

Oh that’s all clear then …

What next? Forever Living telling us that they were indirectly linked to MLM?

That’s a very badly written statement

Clear as mud. Which is par for the course.

Thinking on Buildabear ..... having made such a big song and dance about this, how on earth is she going to frame its inevitable demise? How to explain that? Because I give it 3 months, max.

Oh you can keep an alternative reality going as long as you have Insta and Canva

And don’t forget she has announced that BuildaPyramid has grown by 142%, expanding rapidly from two people to five people. Though I expect the beige AI ladies and some coerced downlines are included in her numbers.

Are they trying to say the Country Sales Mgr is innocent and had no involvement? it isn't clear, or is it lost in translation. There was more than one person arrested anyway so none of this really makes sense, in true FL Fashion. Shame they limited comments.

I like their announcement today considering India is the epicentre of call centres

Limited Customer Support Availability

Due to temporary technical issues, our customer support phone lines will be operating with limited capacity until further notice.

When is the BuildaBear Fair?

22/6, but I'm sure all 60 places will have sold out now, sorry (:

“We have something VERY exciting coming -a try before toy buy. We do try and explain over in our FREE community through videos & posts - check out the guides, but keep your peeled for the all new
freebie part of the app”

I can’t help thinking that if you really want to explain what you do it would be worth proofreading posts before sharing them.

This message and others in recent days show that she is having to give more free enticements. She and Techie seem to be hoping that if they give people a bit more of a view of what’s on offer it will be attractive and lead to people signing up. However, if what you’re offering is a confusing rehash of what you’ve done before and what every other ex-bot is doing then a glimpse behind the paywall will simply be enough for people to confirm it’s not worth paying for.

There is also another post with emphasis on the flexibility of membership with a tale of cancelling and returning subscribers. I suspect that traffic is all one way. It’s pretty clear that all Yawn and Techie’s efforts are in desperately trying to get people to sign up because there is absolutely no need to carve out any time for an active membership.

I think they will have to pull the plug on the BuildHer Barn Dance because they will need at least three people beyond Yawn, Mr Yawn, Techie and the photographer to be able to take misleading shots that imply a crowded room. Plus the room has to be paid for and if it’s a pathetic occasion she will lose the people who have shelled out whatever it costs to turn up. The five “ambassadors” she show-cased, apart from Doggy Bot are any others local? Who is going to travel any distance on a weekday afternoon when there is school pick up and the travel costs on top of the cost of a ticket? That’s got to be a barrier for the ambassadors she featured and any other followers who will have already been rinsed by Forever (seen as they all seem to be MLM or her downline).

perhaps I’m out of touch but I don’t think this is the best advice

I think you need to have a good product or service that people want to have and are willing to pay for

making it all about you and your story ‘your mess snd your magic’ and attracting people to you is not a business plan.

But it is straight out of the MLM playbook

(This is presumably why Yawn’s insta is full of photos of herself)

Oh headband, cutting your own fringe always screams successful!

Along with several health claims 🙄

“What would change for your family if you had extra money coming in every month?”.

This is Uber pictured alongside one of the Arizona court defendants. She is pushing her “One Dimensional Grift Guide” telling those eager for regular, reliable extra money (as she seems to imply will be possible) exactly how she went from nothing to a global team of over 10,000. I doubt she will mention the lucky timing or the willingness to bully and manipulate which seems to be in her DNA, hidden by her window dressing as a wholesome advocate of women. I really hope recent events topple top bots like her.

It feels like now the US MLM is shut down and presumably the FTC has relaxed its grip on the Fat Controller’s balls it’s time to step up the exploitative, dishonest and predatory tactics, safe in the knowledge that there is no real coordinated and powerful monitoring and action against MLM, certainly not in the UK. We will just have to hope that the US shut down is enough to make the rest of FLP unsustainable.

“We really want to see some growth in recruitment and we are going to need some help from you guys to do that”. - Scamaloupolis, 1st May over on YouTube in the One Team May Monthly Update.

Forty-five minutes of recruit, be your own best customer and lists of events to shell out for. No monthly update on the demise of the US MLM that very day or the arrest of the Indian CM and staff which would have been much more useful. An eagle eyed Botwatcher said Scamaloupolis wasn’t happy with the low numbers flying to Warsaw and he’s clearly had to explain what happened to the India leg (or come up with a tall tale). I think he’s a bit rattled.

As an ex-business owner, now retired and loving it, seeing my potential business coach putting her crystals under a glass dome in the moonlight would have me cancelling my subscription post haste.

I’ve seen Yawn’s love-bombed Techie on a story giving her the good old ‘recognition’. Yawn doesn’t do anything from the goodness of her own heart so my guess is that Techie has started to question whether she wants to keep flogging this dead horse.

Has anyone watched the comprehensive takedown of the Vantage scam on the Fizz Facebook page? It’s how Soft Focus Bot is affording the rent on “her” mega bungalow these days and has made me despise her even more.

I wonder if Techie realises that Yawn needs her much more than she needs Yawn? It would be a disaster for Yawn if Techie pulled the plug.

There has to come a point when Techie looks back over her association with Yawn and eventually a lightbulb goes off in her head. Luckily for Yawn she has had much practice as a bot. I get the sense Techie isn’t that confident and that’s a vulnerability Yawn can really use. What’s the betting Yawn’s “recognition” of Techie takes the form of “you’re doing really well despite your obvious deficits. You and I both know you can’t do this without me”. I am sure Techie’s time spent posting pretend reviews, images of Yawn and her pretend disciples, making up followers, creating misleading posts etc, along side the reality of very little interest and no money, is starting to nag. I wonder if she is a bit frightened of Yawn as she has probably seen what she is like behind closed doors.

@fitgirl26she owns the bungalow via dodgy means, not in her married name. I am aiming to watch the Vantage expose. Is that what Homeschool is doing now?

The bungalow shows as not being sold since 2015 on the Land Registry so I still don’t understand how she owns it.

I’ve forgotten Homeschool’s name - I know she used to be local to me!