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BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …

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YouOKHun · 29/04/2026 02:15

A bit of information for those curious about MLM.
Forever Living goes tits up https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/
The Dream
The Secrets of the Multilevel Millionaires
Recruitment fibs https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/the-recruiting-lies-mlms-tell-you/
Why did they leave MLM? https://mlmtruth.org/2020/06/18/breaking-up-with-your-mlm/
Infographic mlmtruth.org/infographic/

Why has Forever Living Products closed down its MLM business in the USA? - Talented Ladies Club

Why has MLM Forever Living Products shut down its USA MLM arm? Could the company be in trouble? We find out why.

https://www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-has-forever-living-products-closed-down-its-mlm-business-in-the-usa/

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Crwysmam · 06/05/2026 21:27

Crikeyalmighty · 06/05/2026 14:10

This one from yawn today tickled me as it’s exactly what she was preaching over the years!! So that 6 figures mentioned repeatedly really was in my imagination !! Along with her CEO role

DID YOU KNOW …

Success is often mistaken to be measured by a fancy job title + a big salary … WRONG !!!!

Well I have a fancy job title and a great salary/income and I definitely put it down to success. So successful that I sold up at 55 and retired on a big fat pension at 60. Not blowing my own trumpet but I dedicate my success to my late parents who valued education and sacrificed a lot to make sure my DSis and I became independent professional women. My DM went back to work full time to put us through uni. They instilled in us that success comes from hard work. I know exactly what my DF would have said had any of us tried the get rich quick con.

Crikeyalmighty · 06/05/2026 23:08

Crwysmam · 06/05/2026 21:27

Well I have a fancy job title and a great salary/income and I definitely put it down to success. So successful that I sold up at 55 and retired on a big fat pension at 60. Not blowing my own trumpet but I dedicate my success to my late parents who valued education and sacrificed a lot to make sure my DSis and I became independent professional women. My DM went back to work full time to put us through uni. They instilled in us that success comes from hard work. I know exactly what my DF would have said had any of us tried the get rich quick con.

Ha ha- and good for you !!
yep the reality is that for many although not all it does mean exactly this ..to me what is odd though is it’s exactly what she preached to sell her wares- this ‘you too can have 6 figure salaries’ - and on her profile she uses the CEO title - although reality is it seems to be CEO of naff all

Crikeyalmighty · 06/05/2026 23:09

@Crwysmam. ah I also was watching Amanda land and immediately thought of yawn - lol

Spongebobette · 07/05/2026 15:07

Spongebobette · 06/05/2026 18:43

Hmm I wonder if that bloody grifter (currently pregnant) who she now calls a friend managed to rinse her for 3k

SH she seems to have been on a photo shoot with her recently - identical photos sitting on the bonnet of a blue car

ThisJadeBear · 07/05/2026 15:39

So I am late 50s with a disability, some long term health conditions, bowel issues.
I have had a really, really good friend since my teens.
She has always been fit but recently joined a ‘nutrition’ club. I looked it up on Insta and they’d posted about my friend so I just said Well Done!
I noticed a load of Herbalife products.
Got badly burned about 15 years ago with a neighbour selling it.
The owner of this ‘club’ messaged me and asked if I’d like to come in for a free wellness check.
I politely declined and she wouldn’t leave it.
I replied then that I have complex health issues I’d rather keep private but she continued to message. I stopped replying.
Then my friend popped into see me to encourage me to come for the wellness check. She’s been with me on my health journey and I explained, again, it wasn’t for me.
Shes seen me go through anorexia, twice.
It has not put her off. She’s clearly pressured another friend into going.
I also, to be quite frank, can’t afford all of these products. Would rather spend my food budget on fresh produce, fish etc.
Mu friend is aware my income is limited. She also knows that any kind of ‘diet’ is dangerous for me.
The wellness club owner messaged me again and I said, please can you read my above messages.
I am now avoiding my friend of many years and it upsets me.

Spongebobette · 07/05/2026 16:39

Oh that’s terrible

it’s so sad that these MLMs make people see anyone they know, including close friends, as potential recruits. It’s cult-like

No should mean no!!

YouOKHun · 07/05/2026 19:00

@ThisJadeBear terrible and completely unsurprising sadly. Herbalife is a horrible scam and seems to have chosen to hide itself very carefully behind nutrition clubs. This is deliberately misleading. Your friend will likely get rinsed and lose her friends in the process.

One of the things that really gets me about your post JadeBear is that your private medical history has, by the sound of it, been discussed without (I assume) your consent. The wellness club owner should have stopped at your first polite decline. These MLM scammers operate outside the rules that apply to the rest of us who collect and hold data and private information. The wellness club owner (AKA pyramid scheme upline) should be registered with the Information Commissioners Office for the information they will definitely hold on their own devices, but I bet they’re not registered. Disgusting harassment when you’ve made it clear you’re not interested.

*edited due to fat fingers and inability to make much sense.

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MrsDilligaf · 07/05/2026 20:15

Utter classic on yawns fb page. I have screenshot for all you unfortunately blocked bot watchers.

BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …
BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …
BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …
MrsDilligaf · 07/05/2026 20:23

In other stories. Uber had a nap at 2pm last Tuesday. She can do this because of forever.
don't tell my boss but I often have a 30 minute snooze when I wfh

Rictus has FINALLY left Disney. Goodness knows how much it cost, but there is no way that forever paid for all of that.

The Poland pics are on the FBO page - such a lacklustre turn out by the usual crew.

YouOKHun · 07/05/2026 20:27

Castle is banging on about what she is not ARSED about (her capitalisation).

She is not ARSED about sharing her own results - good job because nothing is the result of her abilities.

She is also not ARSED about what other people think of her - also a good job.

In fact she’s not ARSED about anything but data, because data tells the truth she says. Unless of course it’s the data given by her brother to the Advertising Standards Authority which was found to not be very truthful at all.

BTW, Bruv is currently snuggling up to Apprentice Bot’s current favourite, a women with a chequered history who is aiming to make her first million under the guidance of Apprentice Bot. How does she plan to do this? By offering Belief Coding to children who have complex trauma, suffered SA, witnessed DA, have any psychological struggles, anxiety, neurodiversity, been bullied, school refusal, you name it, she and her team of randoms will tackle it. How? By bringing belief coding into schools and anywhere vulnerable children might be found, and of course their parents.

So what’s the plan? Make a million by exploiting children? Yet another grifter who has no qualifications, no idea about risk, no data compliance and no moral compass. She won’t make a million of course, but she might damage a few vulnerable children while under pressure to do so. It’s also very disappointing that she has some interest in her BC offering.

Bruv clearly senses some cash or bot cachet from snuggling up to that horrendous woman and her current pet.

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Crikeyalmighty · 07/05/2026 20:35

YouOKHun · 07/05/2026 20:27

Castle is banging on about what she is not ARSED about (her capitalisation).

She is not ARSED about sharing her own results - good job because nothing is the result of her abilities.

She is also not ARSED about what other people think of her - also a good job.

In fact she’s not ARSED about anything but data, because data tells the truth she says. Unless of course it’s the data given by her brother to the Advertising Standards Authority which was found to not be very truthful at all.

BTW, Bruv is currently snuggling up to Apprentice Bot’s current favourite, a women with a chequered history who is aiming to make her first million under the guidance of Apprentice Bot. How does she plan to do this? By offering Belief Coding to children who have complex trauma, suffered SA, witnessed DA, have any psychological struggles, anxiety, neurodiversity, been bullied, school refusal, you name it, she and her team of randoms will tackle it. How? By bringing belief coding into schools and anywhere vulnerable children might be found, and of course their parents.

So what’s the plan? Make a million by exploiting children? Yet another grifter who has no qualifications, no idea about risk, no data compliance and no moral compass. She won’t make a million of course, but she might damage a few vulnerable children while under pressure to do so. It’s also very disappointing that she has some interest in her BC offering.

Bruv clearly senses some cash or bot cachet from snuggling up to that horrendous woman and her current pet.

She also clearly can’t be arsed to mention to her followers that she actually had a limited company Asa director alongside the person you says scammed her but also lots of clients out of a lot of money -clearly couldn’t be arsed enough to check the bank account or delivery of services for the stumped up cash either

notgettinganyyounger · 07/05/2026 22:30

Dear lordy lord, Rictus is now going to bore the pants off everyone by sharing more Diz vids over the next few days.

And there we were thinking it was finally over...

YouOKHun · 08/05/2026 01:09

@notgettinganyyoungerI’ve never seen such desperate milking as Rictus and that grim looking holiday at Disney. She is like finger nails down a blackboard.

She has banged on about it so much that it rather has the opposite effect - this isn’t a holiday easily paid for and quietly enjoyed, it’s a once in a lifetime chance to promote her grift, the like of which will never come around again. Her endless banging on would switch anyone off, either because of the smug bragging or because it’s obvious someone else has footed the bill for a one off trip. I say “would” switch anyone off because last time I checked no one was really looking at her posts. There is certainly not a £30k a month level of interest in her, more like £30. The whole thing makes me want to vomit.

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Spongebobette · 08/05/2026 09:29

She’s scary and looks like she’s in the middle of a manic episode

ThisJadeBear · 08/05/2026 09:38

YouOKHun · 07/05/2026 19:00

@ThisJadeBear terrible and completely unsurprising sadly. Herbalife is a horrible scam and seems to have chosen to hide itself very carefully behind nutrition clubs. This is deliberately misleading. Your friend will likely get rinsed and lose her friends in the process.

One of the things that really gets me about your post JadeBear is that your private medical history has, by the sound of it, been discussed without (I assume) your consent. The wellness club owner should have stopped at your first polite decline. These MLM scammers operate outside the rules that apply to the rest of us who collect and hold data and private information. The wellness club owner (AKA pyramid scheme upline) should be registered with the Information Commissioners Office for the information they will definitely hold on their own devices, but I bet they’re not registered. Disgusting harassment when you’ve made it clear you’re not interested.

*edited due to fat fingers and inability to make much sense.

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I know I’ve been discussed. Apparently there are people there who are more ‘seriously ill’ than me who have come on in leaps and bounds.
I don’t need to lose weight but apparently it will help with nutrition.
So make me understand if I have a chicken breast for lunch, sliced, no skin, mixed salad and a slice of sourdough bread, why would a shake be better for me?
I had to have protein shakes when I had anorexia from an NHS dietician and I hated them but used them as I wanted to get better.
The thought of having to force one down now is revolting to me.
I did say in one message that my diet is supervised medically - it’s not right now but has been and it didn’t put them off.
To add some dark humour.
Not Herbalife but a MLM life coaching thing.
My dad was in hospice care and an old friend said she would take me for coffee for support.
I said well the only coffee I have now is the machine in the hospice.
And she turned up and got a laptop out and gave me the hard sell. In a lounge full of people with dying relatives.
I was mortified and upset.
I went in and told my dad who was dying, but absolutely sharp as a tack and he burst out laughing.
He said…
You should have brought her in here, Jade. I could have had hours of fun getting her to recruit me!
So how many clients can I recruit I’ve got three weeks, four tops…
I realised at that moment that up the chain these so-called businesses have no morals.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 08/05/2026 16:32

That's awful, I'm so sorry. I think at this point I'd have to be blunt - "I'm under the care of medical professionals. Can you tell me more about your professional qualifications?"

YouOKHun · 08/05/2026 16:57

Has anyone else noticed that Yawn has lost around 50 insta followers in the last couple of weeks?

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ticktock19 · 08/05/2026 19:02

I’ve not noticed that @YouOKHun but it’s maybe not surprising as she’s not manifesting peace, love and crystals right now. Someone’s apparently copying her and techie and she’s not happy - nowt like karma is there Yawn

BOTWATCH 92!! We may be celebrating the demise of Forever Living MLM in the US but sadly MLM/network marketing is still pulling in victims using lies and manipulation … the botwatching continues …
YouOKHun · 08/05/2026 19:50

Perhaps the missing 50 Insta followers have gone to the group who has copied her? She and Techie, very optimistically, spent money they didn’t have paying to register the trademark BuildMyBankruptcy. This belt and braces approach didn’t help them when another much bigger American group on FB already had the name. I think that’s why she dropped the “Brand”.

@ticktock19do you think it has occurred to her that no one has copied her, it’s just that every other ex-MLM Bot is doing pretty much the same low-barriers-to-entry grift? One quick look on social media swiftly spews up a million Yawns and their Canva Cults. And what concept have they copied? There is a new concept every week. If it’s the latest beige AI generated Ambassadors Not-an-MLM then that is absolutely not an original idea. If there is no one else around doing the same thing then that is not because she is the originator it’s because these kind of scams have the same life expectancy as the Mayfly.

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ticktock19 · 08/05/2026 21:47

lol…exactly @YouOKHun,summed it up perfectly

Spongebobette · 08/05/2026 21:49

Hilarious that Yawn thinks she’s had a single original idea

Spongebobette · 09/05/2026 09:45

Yawn is claiming she has 700 women in her BuildABear community

i wonder if that’s true and if they are all paying 🤔

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 09/05/2026 10:34

She’s got 670 odd on the FB page, most of whom were added so may or may not have actually accepted. Only about 3 interact.

FLP UK have clearly mandated a big recruitment drive - I was targeted by a video by none other than Bloodsucker

Spongebobette · 09/05/2026 13:46

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 09/05/2026 10:34

She’s got 670 odd on the FB page, most of whom were added so may or may not have actually accepted. Only about 3 interact.

FLP UK have clearly mandated a big recruitment drive - I was targeted by a video by none other than Bloodsucker

Is anyone here in that free group?

YouOKHun · 09/05/2026 16:16

Yes, agree @dickiedavisthunderthighs there is a real sense of a recruitment drive and there is a stepped up visibility from Bloodsucker which is particularly noticeable. She is pushing the story of the maternity support worker who has been able to cut her NHS days down and more than replaced income “boosting her monthly income by £800-£2000 a month”. This implies FL income is steady and reliable.

The MSW did a talk with Uber on Thursday and it was stated on the blurb that she has had her FL biz “just 18 months”., so that would mean she started it c.October/November 2024. Yet the same MSW appeared in the S*n at the end July 2024 saying she has already achieved the above “lifestyle” and had been doing FL since 2023.

This seems to point to Bloodsucker et al deciding that the best approach for their recruitment push is to sell the FL “opportunity” as income top up. In these risk averse times keeping a job but cutting hours and making extra money is tempting and seems a realistic possibility if it’s sold like this (still a lie of course). This also needs to look like it can be achieved pretty simply and fast so I bet that’s why there’s some funny business with the MSW’s timeline and she has now been doing FL “just 18 months”. I think we are going to see a fresh crop of lies now that the US MLM has been shut down over pretty much the same behaviour. It certainly looks like U er, Bloodsucker and their new pet are very happy to manipulate the truth (surprise surprise).

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