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Botwatch 90!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And ‘coaching’ scams are just as bad!

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Spongebobette · 15/10/2025 11:49

New Fred

welcome one and all to bot watching- where we pint out the lies and manipulation by ‘bots’ - those involved in network marketing, coaching etc etc

there is no magic money tree so don’t be fooled!

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ticktock19 · 24/10/2025 14:10

Many thanks, felt like I was on some sort of mission but then i remembered that the house is for sale on the open market so I could have been an interested buyer. I’d also watched Mrs BN TikTok being a weird combination of a snobbier version of Hyacinth Bucket / influencer. She infuriated me with her pompousness so I wanted to go and snoop in person.
There’s no for sale board anywhere and the property is behind a very high beech hedge so as those leaves fall it’ll become more noticeable that the house is in constant darkness.
’Sandwich’ is seen as the wealthy upper class market town to its ‘railway’ town neighbour but I’d say that that property is seriously pushing market prices. Sandwich is not anywhere near ‘golden triangle’ levels of money but does have wealth from being surrounded by farmland and that sort of price would be more for a farmhouse with acres of land (to sell off to property developers or road / bypass developers) not a listed building on a busy / noisy street.

YouOKHun · 24/10/2025 14:21

Well done @ticktock19, that’s a very damning bit of paper! The house is very easily identifiable by image search, do you think that’s OK (I may be overthinking!).

@user1471446301 I can’t find her name on any property companies unless she is part of the one that is “his first initial, her first initial, their last name initial” Ltd, but I think that’s someone else. I’d be disappointed if they were able to keep their heads above water enough to continue pulling people into FLP after a short time in the doghouse. If they do restart their FLP activities that will say a lot about what FLP is prepared to overlook.

@dickiedavisthunderthighs I get the sense that he thinks he’s very clever and an outwit others including HMRC and is someone who likes the flashy symbols of wealth; the Bentley, the [sparsely furnished] big house. Partly to attract the bots but mainly his own affirmation. I think you’re exactly right, that he has expected a big fat cheque. He’s not that clever, having backed two lame horses, the MLM industry and the property market. And who thinks a high street presence for an MLM is a good idea?

I reckon this is even more excruciating for the BN than it would be for most people as they’ve been lording it over their followers in a particularly smug and self-serving way for a long time. I wonder what their downline is being told? They must have had to explain their change of visibility.

user1471446301 · 24/10/2025 14:49

ticktock19 · 24/10/2025 14:10

Many thanks, felt like I was on some sort of mission but then i remembered that the house is for sale on the open market so I could have been an interested buyer. I’d also watched Mrs BN TikTok being a weird combination of a snobbier version of Hyacinth Bucket / influencer. She infuriated me with her pompousness so I wanted to go and snoop in person.
There’s no for sale board anywhere and the property is behind a very high beech hedge so as those leaves fall it’ll become more noticeable that the house is in constant darkness.
’Sandwich’ is seen as the wealthy upper class market town to its ‘railway’ town neighbour but I’d say that that property is seriously pushing market prices. Sandwich is not anywhere near ‘golden triangle’ levels of money but does have wealth from being surrounded by farmland and that sort of price would be more for a farmhouse with acres of land (to sell off to property developers or road / bypass developers) not a listed building on a busy / noisy street.

I am still truly in awe of your reconnaissance.

The Hyacinth Bucket comparison is spot on! and pompous yes that's her to a T.
I should imagine they don't put a for sale board out as it draws attention to it's emptiness.

A Large Listed property which looks like it needs 'doing up' isn't going to move too quickly I should image. I love a good period property and a sash window but in todays cost of heating it's like throwing money through them and there is no secondary glazing. On the estate agents particulars picture 13 of 21 (green room) the window sill and frame is all rotting, mouldy and damp as is the ceiling above so maybe the roof or guttering needs attention. The bathroom with the sailboat blind is also mouldy too and the shower doesn't look like it's been scrubbed for years. I should imagine if you looked round it has been quite neglected. You have to ask the agent for the Energy performance certificate so it's going to be an F or G.

Considering they were there for 8 years they don't seem to have done much with it at all. The green room and red rooms remain the same colour as in 2017 so I don't know if they have even decorated. Their purchase in 2017 is 1 year after the 2016 FL glory years and it's all been down hill since then boo hoo to the Browns!

Spongebobette · 24/10/2025 20:10

yawn and her fitness bestie, videoing themselves doing exercises in matching outfits in an amateur fashion, are giving ‘13 year olds in their bedroom practising dance routines’

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HotAsSatansBalls · 24/10/2025 21:41

What a ridiculous pair of 🔔🔚 🔚

user1471446301 · 25/10/2025 09:00

Spongebobette · 24/10/2025 20:10

yawn and her fitness bestie, videoing themselves doing exercises in matching outfits in an amateur fashion, are giving ‘13 year olds in their bedroom practising dance routines’

I'm hoping scamadopulous appears like Mr Motivator in lycra and shouts feel the burn in CC's not calories. Even though they have fallen out I'm sure he needs another stream of income.

DeliaDeetz · 25/10/2025 10:27

Spongebobette · 24/10/2025 20:10

yawn and her fitness bestie, videoing themselves doing exercises in matching outfits in an amateur fashion, are giving ‘13 year olds in their bedroom practising dance routines’

It's so cringey isn't it?

Actually trying to work out what is more embarrassing for Yawn - the content she is sharing or the lack of public engagement with it!

Spongebobette · 25/10/2025 10:57

Massively cringey

there are eleventy billion exercise videos you can access on t’internet, what do they imagine they are doing that is better? Neither is trained or has any actual knowledge

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YouOKHun · 25/10/2025 10:59

@Spongebobette 13 year olds practicing dance routines in their bedroom is exactly it. I notice that the Unlucky Girl membership is down in the thirties now and there is no way anyone who signed up to Unlucky Club has transferred to one of her other flashes in the pan. I do wonder if the numbers actively following her (let alone paying her) is just a handful.

AbbeyGrange · 25/10/2025 11:53

It's bad, really bad, why are people paying when there's free YouTube videos? If you've got an Amazon fire stick there's loads of (professional) video classes on there too...

AbbeyGrange · 25/10/2025 11:58

Spongebobette · 24/10/2025 20:10

yawn and her fitness bestie, videoing themselves doing exercises in matching outfits in an amateur fashion, are giving ‘13 year olds in their bedroom practising dance routines’

They need to sing into a couple of hairbrushes to complete the look...

HotAsSatansBalls · 25/10/2025 14:41

Spongebobette · 25/10/2025 10:57

Massively cringey

there are eleventy billion exercise videos you can access on t’internet, what do they imagine they are doing that is better? Neither is trained or has any actual knowledge

The fact that this ridiculous pair of bellends have no formal personal training qualifications, knowledge, expertise and, I dare say, no insurance is the legacy of being brainwashed by MLM cults which promote the dangerous and deluded mentality that “anyone can do this: you don’t need qualifications!”

I must admit, watching a pair of overgrown teenagers bouncing around in their bedrooms makes hilarious viewing in a tragi-comic way, as our old friend Eyes would have put it. Eyes: I hope you’re still following these threads - can’t believe we’re up to 90!

Crikeyalmighty · 25/10/2025 15:18

@YouOKHun it really is nuts isn’t it - and those 30 odd are probably 50% people who forgot to cancel -

Spongebobette · 26/10/2025 09:29

Crikeyalmighty · 25/10/2025 15:18

@YouOKHun it really is nuts isn’t it - and those 30 odd are probably 50% people who forgot to cancel -

Apparently she chose to leave a successful 15 year ‘career’ in NWM and now has two successful subscription businesses and a thriving coaching business

One thing she good at is creating an alternative reality

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Crikeyalmighty · 26/10/2025 11:40

@Spongebobette they all look the same too

YouOKHun · 26/10/2025 16:56

Scamaloupolis on the FBO page excited opening a box containing bottles of the new Forever Freedom and confessing that he couldn’t stomach the taste of its predecessor. The new bottle of jizz is infused with citrus to mask the appalling taste. He takes a swing and says, ‘I can actually drink this!’ It’s not a great endorsement is it? It’s pretty clear he has taken one for the team in order to get the customer/bots buying their body weight in Forever Freedom. I imagine that as soon as the filming was cut he immediately ran to the nearest office waste paper basked and vomited until every last drop was expelled.

It may be difficult to sell to the bots but try selling it to a genuine customer. Has anyone ever seen any product being sold to a genuine browser in a one off purchase?

HotAsSatansBalls · 26/10/2025 17:18

What’s “Tastes like arse!” in Greek? 🤮

Spongebobette · 26/10/2025 19:22

YouOKHun · 26/10/2025 16:56

Scamaloupolis on the FBO page excited opening a box containing bottles of the new Forever Freedom and confessing that he couldn’t stomach the taste of its predecessor. The new bottle of jizz is infused with citrus to mask the appalling taste. He takes a swing and says, ‘I can actually drink this!’ It’s not a great endorsement is it? It’s pretty clear he has taken one for the team in order to get the customer/bots buying their body weight in Forever Freedom. I imagine that as soon as the filming was cut he immediately ran to the nearest office waste paper basked and vomited until every last drop was expelled.

It may be difficult to sell to the bots but try selling it to a genuine customer. Has anyone ever seen any product being sold to a genuine browser in a one off purchase?

Incredible isn’t it

‘I can drink this’ is the best he can say about it

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HotAsSatansBalls · 27/10/2025 00:35

When’s he going to admit that when it comes to Forever Living, it’s not just the aloe jizz that’s hard to swallow?

pontivex · 27/10/2025 03:19

HotAsSatansBalls · 26/10/2025 17:18

What’s “Tastes like arse!” in Greek? 🤮

έχει γεύση γάιδαρου

literally translates to ‘it’s tastes like a donkey’

or

έχει γεύση σαν πρωκτό

’it tastes like an anus’

FeistyFrankie · 27/10/2025 03:47

Has anyone heard of Travel Smarter? It looks like an MLM to me in that you pay a monthly subscription to have access to all these travel companies that give you commission on any bookings you make. But I'm kind of confused as to why I'd need to pay in the first place?

HotAsSatansBalls · 27/10/2025 06:51

pontivex · 27/10/2025 03:19

έχει γεύση γάιδαρου

literally translates to ‘it’s tastes like a donkey’

or

έχει γεύση σαν πρωκτό

’it tastes like an anus’

Thank you! I suppose an ass is a suitable alternative to anus or a donkey: good to have it covered. 😉

MrsDilligaf · 27/10/2025 10:37

FeistyFrankie · 27/10/2025 03:47

Has anyone heard of Travel Smarter? It looks like an MLM to me in that you pay a monthly subscription to have access to all these travel companies that give you commission on any bookings you make. But I'm kind of confused as to why I'd need to pay in the first place?

Definitely an MLM, but like all of them, they hide that bit.

MrsDilligaf · 27/10/2025 10:41

a load of guff about the plan...

Botwatch 90!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And ‘coaching’ scams are just as bad!
YouOKHun · 27/10/2025 11:22

@FeistyFrankiethat is an Inteletravel business. The recruiting arm is PlanNet Marketing which recruits would-be travel agents and charges them c.£150 at the beginning for training than c.£45 a month thereafter. The real money is of course in the recruitment of new TA by the “completely separate company” PN Marketing. There are quite a few travel businesses that have their own shop front but are Inteletravel in hiding.

The picture of Inteletravel’s true nature is always illuminated by looking at their fortunes during the pandemic. Their business had a mini boom during lockdown when people were looking at home based opportunities and when there was a global travel ban. How does a travel company have any kind of boom when no one can travel?

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