Botwatch 90!!!! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM. And ‘coaching’ scams are just as bad!

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New Fred

welcome one and all to bot watching- where we pint out the lies and manipulation by ‘bots’ - those involved in network marketing, coaching etc etc

there is no magic money tree so don’t be fooled!

The outside looks dreadful though and like it’s been empty for a very long time

yes @ticktock19priced above £1m, double fronted, 3 storey, 8 bedrooms.

The garden and the drive way look a bit unkempt so I wonder if it’s been vacant for a while or if they just couldn’t manage the upkeep on it. It looks in good condition on the inside but the expensive kitchen and AGA were there when they bought it c2017 (when FLP must have seemed like a safe bet). I wonder where they’ve gone?! The fact they are not keeping up appearances by renting something suitably grand or claiming they plan to downsize says to me they didn’t have time to position whatever has been going on as their choice.

I was searching for max 7 bedrooms initially so no wonder it wasn’t coming up

@ticktock19 cross post with your comments about the outside. It would be interesting to know when they vacated it wouldn’t it? My neighbour had his house of a similar value repossessed and it took them months to get it on the market after he’d been chased out of the property. Perhaps they weren’t hacked but that was when the internet provider pulled the plug on their WiFi!

Do you mean One To Many? Be careful what you say if so. The owner threatened a bunch of MN posters (me included) with legal action if we didn't agree to delete our posts about the nature of the business.

I wonder how big the shockwave will be through FLP about the boring names?

You can dress it up anyway you like, but for high-profile FBOs to lose their home and business isn't as a result of being hacked.

It because the bottom has dropped out of the model (said bottom wasn't particularly secure in the first place), blood sucker and uber will probably be okay, the yawns, exbff et al will probably be okay since they have partners outside FLP who are propping up these vanity businesses, but for the boring names to be in the position they are in....oh dear, it's all gone horribly wrong.

Oh my word!! The house has very much been deserted; it’s a gorgeous house in old photos on zoopla from 2015 but it looks in desperate need of some love. That’s not a house that was packed up and cleaned is it? I wonder if bankruptcy is at play here?

@dickiedavisthunderthighs yep, there is definitely a sense of hurried packing up and possibly some time ago. You can see that money was spent on it before they arrived there and I was quite surprised by the state of the driveway and garden compared to some other photos I saw that were taken about ten years ago. He obviously dabbles in property and has a couple of property companies (one’s dissolved “Two Fat Ladies” Ltd), so I think he’s overstretched himself along with the short-lived high street presence.

The way they’ve treated people and lied to them about the so-called opportunity means they’re fair game and I hope his creative accountancy has bitten them both on their respective backsides.

It does look like something big has happened there. If they have really gone to the wall, that is very significant. Mr was in top 10 for years.
How will FL spin that one?

@MrsDilligaf @definitelynotabot you’re right that it is very significant and will be extremely difficult to spin. I look forward to seeing how they explain it. Can their sudden absence from all events on and off line and all league tables have gone unnoticed among the bots? Perhaps he’s been persuaded to buy the old HQ (as it’s now under offer) and that’s what’s pushed them over the edge 😂

Is there a clue for the location of Mrs Boring Name? I’m thinking of buying a house there, and need to check right move
Thank you

Ah I found the correct road with a bit of patients

@LeoDiCapricorn. Yes, your “patients” has paid off!

If you choose your future, you may find what you seek.

Well what a delicious update! @YouOKHun thank you. I can see on her Insta March 2025 they (well she) was certainly in the kitchen of that house preparing meat. So it hasn't been empty too long, but they obviously aren't gardeners or have had the cash to maintain the property to max the price.

The house is on for the same price as it was advertised in 2015 1.1M so they won't have made any cash on it.

What is this thread about?!!

OK I’m slightly obsessed now. What are the blue and white notices sellotaped to various appliances and all of the loo lids?!?

Well, it’s a very long running thread / topic about MLMs and the individuals in them and how much fib telling they tell to convince others to join their team and that they’re making millions from their scams. Unfortunately, we can’t name them so that’s why they’ve all got nicknames

I want to know this too @dickiedavisthunderthighs I wonder if it’s some sort of notice stating that they’re not known if they’re working by whichever company took ownership of the property??

@dickiedavisthunderthighs I only noticed the one over the log burner. Could it be a professional cleaning company leaving its mark or new fixtures and fittings put in to replace damaged or stuff they’ve taken to sell at the nearest bootfair?!! Perhaps they had loo seats with the faces of their victims printed on them which the mortgage company got rid of?!

Initially I thought it was something to do with like "appliances not tested" ie Gas & Electric, but with the addition of the WC and sinks I'm wondering if the utilities have been cut including water. I'm WFH tomorrow I've half a mind to ring up and enquire I might begin by asking if it's a probate property due to it's empty state see what the story is and then ask about the signs ;)

@dickiedavisthunderthighs AI says this about signs you’re viewing a repossessed property:

There we have it then, excellent sleuthing @user1471446301and @YouOKHun

Two sets of accounts due at the end of this month, one for the shut up shop on the high street, and the other for the property business. CH shows HUGE negative balances across both from 2 years ago so god knows what they look like now.
Looks like both Boring Names were determined to find new victims to the bitter end, until presumably FL handed their arses to them.

Also listed for sale with no upward chain.