Botwatch 88 !! MLM is dying but we are still watching and sadly there are still many victims. 99.6% of participants in these “legal” schemes lose money but they are STILL being promised the world by MLM.

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I see Mr Yawn has updated his LinkedIn to reflect the fact he has been working since February 2022, freelance until Feb last year when he went full time/salaried. It puts the daily income claims she was making during that period up until it went wrong last summer, into stark focus doesn’t it?

Yawn has a number of profiles and on one of them she claims to have attended the University of Uberville.

@dickiedavisthunderthighsI’m sure you’re right. It would be excruciating for her socially and psychologically, though financially it would be her best hope. Still, Mr Yawn seems to have stepped up.

Falling off the wagon is a possibility as her audience has kept her accountable as has the need to sell C9s and make regular appearances at FLP events. However, if that audience has largely disappeared and no one is really looking at you, where’s the motivation going to come from? I could see it could become very difficult to see any action as worthwhile if it’s not affirmed on social media, if that’s what someone is used to.

I don't honestly believe she was ever on the wagon to start with. I strongly suspect the entire tee total rubbish was and has always been exactly that..rubbish. She has lied systematically about more or less every aspect of her life so I do not think for one second she has been truthful about that. For someone who is tee total it's funny how the wet wipe of a husband seems to drive her everywhere!!

Also just noticed yawn put she went to worcester university. I know for a fact she only went to college for a year then dropped out before her parents got her a job as a secretary. She's also removed a lot from her linkdin as well which is quite telling.

‘A number of profiles’

always a good sign 🙄

Yeah, each listing different educational attainment levels depending on her target prey, ranging from the annual “Only 1 GCSE, but look at me!” all the way to university degrees… It must be exhausting to try to remember which persona you’re inhabiting during any given interaction.

I came to this thread to see this. A lot of my childhood friends got caught up in FL. Some did really well and others not so and I imagine some mentioned on this thread - I specifically unfollowed them as I didn’t want to see it anymore. The amount of independent travel consultants now popping up in the ones I kept on fb is suspicious.

There were two bots from FLP who went to the “opportunity to be a travel agent” recruitment scheme (Twin Mum Bot and donna truffatrice italiana bot) from memory. Twin Mum seems to have moved on (just going by FB). Some of the people you know @ProfessionalWhimsicalSkidaddlercould have followed them. You’d probably find the ones who did well out of Forever Living aren’t anymore unless they are one of a handful.

Sorry the names of the two about don’t mention much!

That last sentence makes no sense at all! I meant sorry that the names won’t mean much to you @ProfessionalWhimsicalSkidaddler

Unfortunately the names don’t but I stopped watching them on fb about ten years ago, likely more, apart from the odd nosy. Some of them never put anything on fb but I had their personal account or so they said.

yes you’re right - Others very clearly weren’t doing well and many vanished all together. They had other skills which they managed to use to do well in this game. One is now a “writer” and “coach” as this thread shows many became. There was one who seemed a lovely lady and was high up, always selling clean 9s but quite overweight and I remember thinking it can’t be that good or easy. She vanished but was very good at selling paradise.

Well Yawn has picked a great name for her new venture. It’s already an established name for women in Australia who buy and renovate properties.
I did say that it sounded like an all women building firm. I wonder how many people will make this mistake when they go live.

buildhercollective.com.au/

When the Unlucky Club launched it had the same name and look as the offering of an Australian coach so perhaps Yawn is taking her inspiration from Australia more generally.

yes I'm gearing up for Rally viewing, WFH 3 days this week! I don't think homeschool has dropped LG just adding to the grift unfortunately.

I think my last posts were removed as they were too identifying I got carried away re Salon and an established link she's had wayback with her new venture.

I think the university mention is when she attended beginners sign language ;)

I don’t know who ‘Yawn’ is as I
am new to this thread, but someone I went to uni with keeps trying to get me to join Farmasi, which I’ve discovered is an MLM. She tells me it’s the “best thing she’s ever done”, and that “it’s so much more than just a business.” No thanks!

@covidwoes Farmasi has swept up a lot of the [now defunct] Urban Retreat bots. It’s relatively new in the U.K. Is this your uni contact’s first MLM? She will get rinsed sadly. It’s really quite amazing that people are still falling for MLM, we need another round of warning articles in the media like we had pre and immediately post pandemic.

Yawn has same last name as the main character in the comedy Some Mothers do have ‘em and the same first name as the Brookside actress Sweeney. Hope that helps.

So did a bit of a deep dive into stan.store and it appears to be a sort of MLM, they are known as MRRs and are being investigated for operating pyramid scheme. They create a funnel for users and basically are for people wanting to coach. But they are basically selling coaching courses to wannabe coaches who then sell the MRR to other wannabe coaches ( there side hustle). Which if you analyse is the essence of a pyramid scheme. Nobody actually does any useful coaching, they just sell courses on how to coach. Part of the deal is to refer new coaches to the MRR to sign up and are given an affiliate fee. They also have “ambassadors “ a familiar term to all of us.
I found something on Reddit.

It explains why Yawn is hanging out with all the coaches.

You’re on fire @Angrymum22with your hypothesis on Yawn’s tax and Stan Store digging. It explains why no one outside that coaching world has heard of stan store and why Yawn’s coach is getting her victims to sign up - they all have identikit online presence. I’ve just read that SS can be very difficult to disentangle from and retrieve any money SS owes.

Yawn is currently selling the patches and I’ve just heard her say (after turning the music up) ‘we’re having a leaving party, it’s my last hour and I’ve had a blast here’. Obviously, it could just be her last hour of today’s sales pitch or is she no longer going to be a patchy salesperson

she did mention last week she was leaving if I remember correctly. She 'only did it' for her unlucky crew so she could offer training on selling on tiktok (chinny reckon).

Oh @Botpotty🤣, of course you’d only do it for that reason 😂. That’s hilarious, it’s obvious that she’s not the drawn the crowds in plus she finds it boring / hard. Hang on, she’s definitely just confirmed that she’s leaving as she was just a ‘guest presenter’ for 6 weeks.
I wonder if she’s going to bring a guide out for selling on TikTok, there’s an FM bot that I follow who has started selling on TikTok since Jan and suddenly produced her ‘TikTok’ selling manual for £70 on our fave platform- the Stan store

I'm going to give myself an early coffee break and 'tune in' to see the grand finale! Might even finish on a constructive comment on the live as it's neither here of there if I'm blocked on the planty patches channel :)

So Yawn has stopped promoting the patches? Or is she leaving TikTok?

Anyone asking awkward questions?