Botwatch 87!!! Yes we are still battling MLMs! When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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Welcome one and all to the latest thread in a long series

We are here to expose the huns and bots who lie, exaggerate and prospect victims who don’t realise that the income claims and aspirational lifestyle are unachievable

More than one of Yawn’s reviews/ feedback, that she’s sharing, make the same spelling mistake (manefest)

is it all the same person one wonders

Castle is launching YET ANOTHER exclusive amazing insane programme that you really want to be on the waitlist for and it’s got a brand new name and everything

and she’s having a champagne fridge installed in her double garage office 🙄

Agree @dickiedavisthunderthighs using charity as a cover in order to profit and effectively divert donated funds away from the good cause is the lowest these scams stoop.

I am getting the sense that the move to the new HQ is producing a renewed effort to scam or perhaps now it's been a year since the TiNA report they feel the spotlight is off them again and it's back to scamming as usual?

What happened to Castle's promise to "step back"? As far as I can see there is still an avalanche new improved insane 6/7/8 figure programmes, at a rate of two or three a week. She must be very confused about what she is offering, so confused she has to go for a lie down while her parents do the childcare or she has to go shopping to clear her head (not that there's much going on in the space between her ears).

She’s suggesting that if you pay her enough (by joining the latest version of her super exclusive VIP programme) you might be invited to the double garage!!!

her dad is slaving away fitting it out still while she flits about filming it

Anyone have any idea what Homeschool Bot's latest scam is? I can't work it out.

@HellooooJackie Livegood. Though by the looks of it there is no good living happening for Homeschool who is as manic as her ex is silent. I'd love to know what the deal is with Mr Homeschool.

Yawn seems completely directionless. I've never known anyone to have so many things going at any one time. She really doesn't know what she's doing and after listening to her last video clearly doesn't know what she's talking about. Listening to her was confusing and frankly boring. If l had paid her for that offering I'd be really upset that that was what l was getting which was a woman rambling on about paint colours and pictures.

I’ve been at work today so haven’t had chance to scrutinise the reviews. I thought, after a quick read, that they were very similar regarding syntax, which is a bit of a give away. But the same spelling mistake is either Yawn or the same minion, or maybe her coach who has been teaching her the tricks of the trade.
I once was tasked with looking for fake reviews on a now defunct NHS site. I spent a week trawling through reviews and patterns were very easy to pick up.

Yawn frequently uses her DH’s phone to create gushing text exchanges. She is such a fraud.

Yawn’s fake reviewer also cannot spell grateful (greatful).

Yawn thinks she’s creating multiple streams of income but of course it’s all the same suckers, no one new outside of her bubble even notices her posts

She's down to 71 victims in the scammers club now. That's 3 that have left in a week

I can't believe yawn has 71 fools in her club. I wonder if they are on a hefty discount or made up of free friends and family

Multiple income streams indeed. More like multiple stabs in the dark. She can't create multiple income streams out of the same few people who have less money than she does. I am sure that the dwindling group of 70 odd contains 65+ who haven't interacted since before Christmas and anyone new is having a complementary chat and that's as far as it goes. Even her downline isn't interacting with her content as much.

The reality is that we would see much more interaction on her SM if what she was doing was working. She is going to have to face facts that without the lucky timing of being in MLM a decade ago and without being part of a system that rewards misrepresentation and exploitation she has no chance of making any money and what she is doing is not credible. Her customers are also her competitors all operating in the world of coaching or flimsy business ideas.

Ubers recent post, one of the old favourites, stating the obvious, suggests that spending £50 a day (365) amounts to £18250 a year. It’s a good hook turning it around to earning the same amount, but she fails to point out that it would mean working in your pockets of time 7 days a week.
A part time job. 28hrs, at minimum wage will give you the same income. No weekends, 2 days off a week, 4 weeks holiday and other benefits including UC if you qualify ( single parents).
Unfortunately most will see this figure as take home, not realising that it will be taxed, just the same as a real j.o.b. If you are on benefits and the DPE catch up with you then you will be no better off. The profit doesn’t reflect the total outlay of stock you have to first buy before selling for a profit, which is variable and overbuying is encouraged to comply with their “rewards” system. Half of that so called income could be tied up for months as stock, gathering dust in the books and crannies of your home.
Most businesses don’t carry a lot of stock because a.) it takes up space b.) it’s dad money and c.) same day delivery means that you rarely run out if you monitor properly. Easier to use your supplier as a stock room.

Given that Uber will be telling them that this is about retailing I wonder how much they need to sell every week to give themselves a clear £50 x 7 (post expenses) every week? More than their family members will buy long term.

Yawn really is fucking stupid - in her latest post she’s put a lighted candle in her dogs food bowl and put it on the floor in front of the dog - what a fucking idiot 🤬

Headband has posted about her and her DS meeting up with her parents for some occasion. Lots of POSITIVE photos and guess what? Finally the identity of one of the people appearing in the photos is protected. Has she seen the light from a safeguarding point of view? No, it's her mother whose identity is hidden by a smiley face, her young child is right there for anyone to see along with any other details about a 5/6 year old child on her feed should the wrong person be viewing and want to know more. The woman is a prize idiot for this alone.

I don’t know about creating multiple streams of income, but Yawn appears to be “manefesting” multiple streams of fake reviews. “I was drawn to you before Lucky girl started, (I am an ex forever employee), however it wasn’t for me, now I know why. I was meant to be a Lucky girl & I couldn’t do without it!”

Someone should tell Yawn that not all MLM non-skills are transferable: “be your own best customer” (or, in this case, reviewer) whiffs of desperation. Her reference to being an “ex forever employee” is a curious one. Assuming Yawn is the author of her own reviews, is this how she now sees herself: an ex employee, rather than an independent business owner, who is CEO of the Yawniverse? It suggests that Yawn has left Forever too. Even if she were still clinging onto Forever, there’s no way she’d publish a review which shows Forever Living in such a negative light: it would throw shade on her own alleged Forever business, her upline would not be amused, and I doubt head office would be impressed either.

In one of Yawns Stories last week she referred to her NW Job in the past tense. I can only view anonymously so can't go back to find it.

That’s very interesting @Botpotty
(by the way, I love your username: it makes me titter)! If Yawn has quit Forever Living, what on earth is she going to do with a garageful of Forever Living products? Sell it to her Lucky girls (some girls have all the luck … jammy bitches)! Cleanse her thatch of fungus (those pleather trousers must be a haven for fungal infections)? Cut out the middlepan and pour it straight down the botpotty (where most of it will ultimately end up)? Dump it all in a skip and covey it to FL’s new UK HQ?

Blimey and now down to 70. People are dropping out of the cult quickly. That's a good handful in one week

69 now. Something is afoot. That's 5 or 6 who have left in a week. Mind you she'll be quick to bump the number up with fake members

I think that head office have put out a warning to all FL bots to have nothing to do with Yawn. She has mentioned that some of her Lucky Girl followers are from FL. There is probably a mole who is reporting back to FL, particularly if she is spilling the beans on underhand practices in FL. Yawn has become a doubter in their eyes and the top dogs ( Uber and Bloodsucker) will be doing anything and everything to discredit her.
I would think that Yawn is spiralling big time. She has fallen out with all her “friends” and they are now closing the doors.

It was the same with Castle, but she has a financial fallback. She has pretty much faded away.