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Botwatch 87!!! Yes we are still battling MLMs! When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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Spongebobette · 08/02/2025 13:57

Welcome one and all to the latest thread in a long series

We are here to expose the huns and bots who lie, exaggerate and prospect victims who don’t realise that the income claims and aspirational lifestyle are unachievable

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Wintersgirl · 08/02/2025 14:08

Who'd have thought we'd be on thread 87!

YouOKHun · 08/02/2025 14:14

Thanks for the new thread @Spongebobette. Yawn has shared her tips for being commanding and charismatic in conversation with others. These are skills she has honed while talking to downlines who keep it zipped and nod and smile in her presence, in an act of self preservation.

I'm wondering how well these conversation skills were applied on the phone to a certain airline or indeed with anyone who isn't a downline and/or a misguided Unlucky Girl Club member? Especially when the story I see immediately before it describes people who don't fall at people's [her] feet as dickheads.

Wintersgirl · 08/02/2025 14:27

Oh god Yawn stop! Everyone can see it's an AI butterfly!

Spongebobette · 08/02/2025 15:00

Omg that wouldn’t fool anyone!

she’s clearly desperate for content and poor Mr Yawn has had to whisk her away for lunch to cheer her up from whatever happened to upset her

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YouOKHun · 08/02/2025 15:27

Here is a screen shot of the inside of Stratford Butterly Farm which may look familiar. There may be no artificial intelligence involved (or indeed any intelligence). I have a theory about the ability to attract butterflies. It's a bit out there so stick with me on this:

In an enclosed area filled with butterflies there is a high chance that one may land on you. This is the same kind of chance of a flappy pigeon crapping on your head if you enter an enclosed area full of flappy pigeons. Any other magical explanation is a CLEAR SIGN that you're on the wrong path that leads nowhere.

Just a hunch.

Botwatch 87!!! Yes we are still battling MLMs! When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?
Spongebobette · 08/02/2025 15:50

Yes I think you are right

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BSintolerant · 08/02/2025 16:02

@YouOKHun 🤣
There’s no need to enter an enclosed area full of flappy pigeons in the hope that one will crap on your head: a visit to St James’s Park provides an amaaaayzing opportunity for such an experience. If you were to eat fish and chips during your visit to the park, there’s every chance that a flappy pigeon will crap on that too.

Merci pour le thread Madame Eponge. Can’t believe we’re on number 87! We’ll be on thread 88 next: two fat ladies (courtesy of not being able to afford weight loss injections, no doubt).

YouOKHun · 08/02/2025 17:25

And no need to go all the way to St James's Park to have a flappy pigeon crap on you from a great height. Simply make your way to Solihull and a brief train ride and 3 hour hike from the station brings you to a location where all sorts of crap will rain down upon you from the vultures disguised as flappy pigeons circling above you. Eeek!!

@BSIntolerant That train that Scamaloupolos is so keen on, do you think it has a special platform at Birmingham New Street a bit like Harry Potter's magic platform in London?

"The 1313h train to Warthogs is departing from Platform Eleven-Billionty. Every carriage has a six figure number, as does every seat. Book your third class ticket for the beginning of a new term at the School of Magical Thinking which is at the end of the line and you'll know when we've arrived as we will hit the buffers.

We have a new campus this term and we want to emphasise that there is to be no running in the corridors or talking to pupils from other schools who seem to be hanging about in our new campus claiming it's their campus. Do not try to sell them magic potions that turn out not to be magic at all. Do not invite them to join your economics lesson where we use special calculators that only do addition and have no subtraction button. We do not want pupils educated in other establishments questioning our curriculum.

We expect you to do a lot of homework in your pockets of time. We are of course there to support you and if you fail your O Levels you only have yourself to blame and it's your own time you've been wasting.

The Modern Languages Department is available after school hours and this is where you can read the first page of a Spanish phrase book or learn how not to ask too many questions in any language. The Geography department is teaching a module on the alps and there will be a field trip where we will hike right across India on a Friday afternoon to visit the Swiss alps. Biology this term will have an empty module about the human brain. No special equipment is needed but do turn up in a white lab coat and big glasses so you look all sciencey. The English Department has a variety of manifesting books available to borrow and a selection of punctuation for pupils to scatter about. There will be a talk from Mr Worre about writing fiction and Head Girl of VI firm this year (Miss Uber) will read her essay to the pupils in assembly. We are very proud of her essay which she wrote using the blood of the pupils in the lower years.

No pupil may keep cash in their locker. Please hand all pocket money to this (and every) year's prefect Miss Bloodsucker. At the end of the term you can ask for your money back from Prefect Bloodsucker and she will exchange it for empty promises and a Certificate of Gullibility.

We regret to say there was some very bad behaviour during the summer term when a certain pupil claimed she had won all the end of term prizes and then had a fight in the old school tent with some fellow Vth formers and a prefect. She is now standing in the corner and we'd really rather no one spoke to her.

This year's Sports Day will take place in June. The main event, the Race to the Bottom will just involve the lower years this year. Prizes will be awarded by the prefects to themselves as they already know they have come first. The Headmaster will be entering the Sack race on his own and the Headmaster from our richer sister school in the US will be deciding the outcome of that. There is no parents race this year now that Miss Castle has left the school and taken her parents' finances with her.

Finally, can we remind you all that broomsticks must be parked at a public car park in a nearby county".

Verygoodatforgetting · 08/02/2025 17:27

I also immediately felt like that was Stratford butterfly farm, I'm glad that wasn't just my own cynicism peeking through.

Today I have particularly enjoyed the fact that on Yawn's stories, my "mute" symbol covered up the key word "not" at the start of her post about dickheads . For a moment, I thought she had had a startling moment of clarity.

Botwatch 87!!! Yes we are still battling MLMs! When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?
YouOKHun · 08/02/2025 17:37

@Verygoodatforgetting 😂🤣. I had the same symbol obstruction but didn't notice the improvement it made to her statement!

Wintersgirl · 08/02/2025 17:44

It doesn't look real, it looks AI generated....

Spongebobette · 08/02/2025 17:50

I think that the Head Office staff (there are only 2 of 3 of them) are absolutely on high alert in case any bots decide to make a day of it, book a room and shriek at each other in the lobby and communal areas
They are trying to give the impression that all the bots are welcome but it’s clear they’d really rather they drive up, collect their order and leave
They kept them on the grounds or in a tent at the Manor and no one else was disturbed - in this new building they could make the company very unpopular
In fact I wonder what other businesses are located there think and whether they are thrilled to have a network marketing company in the building? I’d not be happy as it would drag down my brand to be next door to an MLM

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YouOKHun · 08/02/2025 18:07

It would be great if there was a botwatcher working at one of the other companies!. You're right @Spongebobette, they really don't want the bots there but they have to show it off or doubts might set in among the bots. A real dilemma for them. They no longer have a landlord with a vested interest in their way of doing business. I expect other companies will be quick to react if there are problems. Will FLP be there long enough to cause a nuisance? It's very much the departure lounge before they take a one way flight out of the UK.

Spongebobette · 08/02/2025 18:18

I bet Scamopoulos is under huge pressure to make enough money through the bots to pay the rent. And therefore he’ll be doing his visits and cosy chats with many of the top bots to put pressure on them

I wonder how long a lease they’ve signed up for?

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MrsDilligaf · 08/02/2025 18:31

Checking in...my DeadBad bot has seen an 800% increase on her payout this month.

She's recruited her 13yr old under her as well as various family members - Zero engagement from any friends despite lots of talk about this biz being FIRE 🔥!!!!!!

Spongebobette · 08/02/2025 18:38

Homeschool’s posts about that company are absolutely desperate

she’s adopted a rather nasty bulllying tone - which I think she used when she was in Forever Living, but not in public posts. I’m sure she was pretty unpleasant to her downline if she thought they needed motivating (but always a big cheesy grin on public posts)

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Gloriainextremis · 08/02/2025 18:43

I've never had anything to do with MLMs apart from buying the occasional pot of gloop from a friend who used to do that Body Shop one, which I would have bought from their high street shop anyway.

Thread 87? Blimey.

Spongebobette · 08/02/2025 19:18

Welcome!

if anyone reading these threads has a story to tell about being in an MLM, we’d love to hear it

our mission is to stop new victims being ‘prospected’

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YouOKHun · 08/02/2025 19:29

@Gloriainextremis yes, thread 87, there are a lot of MLM and bot antics to watch! I wonder which MLMs will fail before thread 100?

I hope your friend didn't suffer too much damage during the demise of BSAH? The reps were treated appallingly. BSAH was encouraging them to order right up until and including the day they told the reps it was all over (the reps were the last to know).

LeoDiCapricorn · 08/02/2025 19:33

Checking in. It's taken me too long to walk from the previous Fred

Spongebobette · 08/02/2025 19:43

It would have been quicker if you’d filmed it and speeded it up

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ItWasnaMeGuv · 08/02/2025 21:21

Thanks @Spongebobette for the new fred! I would love to know what happens to the Manor now FL have move to fab modern office in centre of the universe aka Solihull Grin. When will it be sold, who to?

ItWasnaMeGuv · 08/02/2025 21:32

Confessions of a secret Avon perfume fan Grin. My local Superdrug has an Avon stand and if I used makeup I'd probably consider it. I do like their perfumes, they're great for day time use at work and I like to try different once when I am walking past the store. Phew, there got that off my chest. Back to anti-MLM campaigning Wink.

The heady successful days past of MLMs enticing victims here, there and everywhere (thinking of FL back in the day 2015/16). I don't think any MLM will ever have that success again in the UK. Its interesting to see the countries which are enjoying current MLM success. We all know that the victims, mostly women, will all go through the shame and anxiety of failing, the embarrassment of exploiting their friends and families to make pity purchases, to lie and deceive them in order to sign them up to get their CCs. To go into debt because their upline convinces them that success is just around the corner. The utter despair when they do fail and are told "you did it wrong". "you didn't want it enough". IT is no wonder we are on thread 87, I remember the first thread (not called "thread 1" no, that came later and more and more mnetters posted their terrible experiences. Welcome all newcomers!

YouOKHun · 08/02/2025 21:57

@ItWasnaMeGuv I see it's still on Rightmove for £2m plus free tent... actually two free tents I see from the aerial shot. There is a suggestion by the optimistic estate agents that it could be converted back into a single dwelling but who is going to want to live there unless they are very rich and very keen on Burger King? Not many businesses are really going to want an expensive listed building as an office are they?

Small hotel in the Partridge Travel Tavern vein given it is "conveniently located" for the M40? Or is it destined to be a museum of broken dreams, lying empty and neglected with the ghost of Bob wondering the corridors and the ghosts of many failed bots confined to the tent. Could Uber add it to her portfolio of empty and over-priced properties in the wrong location?

Spongebobette · 09/02/2025 01:22

ItWasnaMeGuv · 08/02/2025 21:21

Thanks @Spongebobette for the new fred! I would love to know what happens to the Manor now FL have move to fab modern office in centre of the universe aka Solihull Grin. When will it be sold, who to?

I wonder what they are paying for the new head office

it seems like the owners of Forever Living (the company is owned by a family in America who keep a tight hold on their ownership) who owned The Manor and leased it to Forever Living, have decided to liquidate their assets in the UK.

i wonder why they didn’t want to hang on to such an asset and make money from it by leasing it to their own company? That was a win win surely

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