Botwatch 86!!! the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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@Spongebobette I expect the senior castles have very much ring-fenced their money for the facilitation of Bruv and Castle's every whim. Mr Castle may benefit in a secondary way but needs his own pocket money as what falls off the magic money tree always lands in Bruv and Castle's pocket, not anyone else's. I wonder if they have a relationship with the other BiL who seemed sensibly focused on a non-MLM career.

Yes the other BIL had a proper career if I remember correctly

you are so right about the magic money tree of mum and dad (and free childcare, housekeeping, renovations) to keep Castle and Bruv from having to grow up and face reality

I remember when Castle returned from Spain - she HAD to have a brand new kitchen straight away

every few months she needs a BIG EXPENSIVE TREAT

Yawn’s latest ‘podcast’ (which isn’t a podcast, just her chatting to someone on Zoom) is with a ‘divorce coach’
😬

What’s a ‘fully accredited Divorce and Break Up Coach’ I wonder

Ha the small print in her ‘packages’

one is £530 for which you get 6 one hour sessions and ‘24 hour assistance’

*24 hour assistance charged at a rate of £150 per hour after 5pm weekdays and during weekends.

It sounds as though she had a terrible relationship and a horrendous divorce, poor woman

looks to me like she went on a coaching course and was advised to find her ‘niche’ and this is it

and by joining Yawn’s lucky band of minions she’s hoping to get some clients. I wonder how many others in the group are in there to sell something to each other

Surely divorce can be expensive enough without having to pay a fortune for someone to "coach" you through it?!

This is what happens when people are given bad advice to just follow their ‘passion’ and ‘niche’ and they all throw away any actual expertise/qualifications they have and try to make it work as new yoga teachers, life coaches and whatnot.

Just talking in general, not seen Yawn’s ‘podcast’.

The director’s loan will come to bite Yawn in the bum at some point- I do wonder what will happen. She won’t be able to admit to any financial difficulty. My money is on them going quiet for a while for what looks like positive but big lifestyle changes and an upcoming big reveal, then a downscaled house or apartment in Spain as the kids are grown.

It often seems to me that these coaches are still working out their own issues (eg Nurse and her IVF coaching niche)

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i love spotting Uber making positive comments on lowly bots’ posts - I think she makes a point of doing this to keep them in thrall

she’s posted on Speccy’s ‘look I made a wreath’ post ….wonder what Yaen thinks about that!

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Scotbot is going on a Caribbean cruise in Feb (and not claiming her ‘side hustle’ is paying for it, thank goodness

I wonder if Yawn is joining her as they are/were so close and a luxury holiday is long overdue for Yawn?

The word "accredited" is an interesting one these days as it seems to be a stand-alone. An accredited divorce coach. Accredited by whom?

The Association of Professional Divorce Coaches, patron Zsa Zsa Gabor with accreditation only possible after formal training in family law, mediation etc

Or

Accreditation by The Happy Divorce Club®️, holder of the You Go Girl certificate in Positivity and a Certificate in Limited Personal Experience.

I also feel sorry for the woman if she had a horrendous divorce and I'm sure she has some useful anecdotal information to impart based on her experience and means well but coaching based on one's own experience with (presumably) no real training about handling charged situations that may be very different from one's own experience doesn't seem credible. I've done court work (referrals from family court/acrimonious divorce) and it's an absolute minefield. It's perfectly possible for one party to decide they want to make mincemeat of a psychologist or therapist or any person "advising" the other party. I can think of a few barristers who'd love to uncover the existence of a divorce coach. Obviously those are particularly charged situations but I still wonder how much these coaches have thought about the advice they may give and covering themselves; insurance and privacy etc. On the subject of lawyers, once they've been paid I don't imagine there's a lot of money left to pay a divorce coach anyway.

One thing is for sure, I pity anyone dividing up the family fortune after a member of the family has been involved in MLM. This must be the point at which the true cost of "earning" in an MLM comes to light and leaves the person who has been propping it up seriously out of pocket with only the prospect of half a garage worth of aloe Vera as their part of the deal. The divorce coach should start by telling her clients to get a proper job going forward. Except she won't get any clients linked to Yawn as none of them have that kind of money. Does the coach realise that the "podcast" is only viewed by a handful of people?

I can’t find any mention on her website of who ‘accredited’ her

and there’s far too much about herself on there.

just saying ‘I have been through a difficult divorce’ is enough.

Yawn and that fucking wand 🤣🤣🤣

The divorce coach says she is a former solicitor so at least she isn't ex-NWM. That's something at least.

@Spongebobette she's an accredited Sara David* Break Up and Divorce Practitioner. No me neither...

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Ahhhh found Sara David

another coaching scheme 🙄

Is the Practitioner Accreditation Programme for you?
Are you passionate about helping others?
Do you want a career that makes a positive difference?
Have you had a personal breakup experience that could help others?
Are you interested in becoming a coach?
Would you like help marketing your coaching business?
Do you need a focus for an existing coaching practice?
Would you like to be working in a fast-growing coaching niche?
Are you already a coach looking to widen your tool kit

no actual prices for this amazing course - you have to fill in a form

bet the price ends in a 7

That's the second podcast...sorry chat, that Yawn's had with this divorce woman, it just shows she has no one else to talk to, scraping the barrel me thinks

The divorce coach is "exited for 2025" after her chat over lunch with Yawn. "Exited" is a Freudian slip if ever there was one. The divorce coach later corrects herself and briefly lists words beginning with "c" to hammer the point home (collaboration etc), not the first C word that comes to mind but still.

The question is can she help Yawn through her painful divorce from Forever which so far does not include a financial settlement in Yawn's favour and includes lashings of mental cruelty (see Unlucky Girl's Club). It's a long drawn out "exiting" she's been dealing with and there's no coming back from it. Can the divorce coach help Yawn by sacrificing her own sanity in some kind of collaboration (which will have fallen apart by mid-January when Yawn has rinsed anything useful out of the divorce coach)?

Divorcebot seems to be involved in Forever Living, or was. Mentions Yawn’s ex friend on her FB and attended an event with a FL product person

interesting that they are all swimming in a very small pond

Surely we will hear from Speccy soon? Or Headband?

Yawn's new collab is with another fraudster, no suprise, this is why she is no longer a solicitor.
www.legalfutures.co.uk/latest-news/solicitors-jailed-fraud-perverting-course-justice-action-former-employee

Good detective work @Botpotty 👏

Funny how fraudsters are just drawn to MLMs

Wow!!