Botwatch 86!!! the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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On this thread we are botwatchers - watching multi level marketing bots and exposing their manipulations and misleading claims

Round here there are new traffic cameras which would pick that up and issue penalties.

It's so clear that her seatbelt is not pushed down out of the way, it's just not on her at all.

Why would she even risk the big fine? It just makes zero sense.

Or the risk of being catapulted around the inside of the car killing Mr Yawn in the process of killing herself. It surprises me that someone who is using her alleged serious car accident as her Hard Luck story on her new website isn't more paranoid about repeating the experience.

Talking of the website. I wonder if it will be visible to the outside world. If I was looking for a coach of her type in the Yawnsville area alone, I would have to go through the details of many coaches all saying the same thing and all more visible than she is. Same online. I would need to know of her name and Google it. When I do she is very much attached to FLP in the searches. That's not going to be a selling point to a genuine customer. How will anyone know Yawn exists unless they follow her already? She hasn't sold a journal since that day in November when she got her positive reviews and it's now £18-19. Not the best person to ask for advice about marketing.

I saw that Headband responded angrily to someone raising the issue of safeguarding and privacy of her DS on Insta. The response was angry, defensive and full of accusations of negativity and almost immediately deleted. So we can be sure that if plastering her DS all over open social media hadn't occurred to her as a problem before she definitely is aware now. But no change in behaviour, so there we have it, her DS's safety comes a poor second to her desperate FLP grift.

Where is the "training" from FLP about how the "FBOs" should sell FLP appropriately? Shouldn't FLP take some responsibility for the things done in its name, towards its profits? After all the Headbands of this world are in no way independent of FLP.

Seeing Mr Yawn in that video makes me think she’s filtering his photos too. Her pics always show him to have very smooth skin, whereas the video showed he looked appropriate for his age.

Ooh I missed that response from Headband

Speccie has put her dream house/ forever home on the market

I expect she’s moving into a mansion, made possible by the huge income she’s getting from Forever Living

Forever Living seems to have expanded its VIP club hugely, to include bots I’d never heard of

Yawn is still in there

Someone has finally called Yawn out on not wearing a seatbelt. Lets see how long before she either deletes the comments or puts a nasty scathing post up.

And removed. The woman is a massive tool. I really hope they do have a accident and she is taught a lesson. Sick to death of seeing this moronic idiot on the roads titting around as though she is above the law.

I wonder if Speccy is moving away from FLP. There used to be a mix of FLP and other stuff on her personal page but there has been no posts about FLP there since December. She was busy making festive decorations and I expect this was more of a success at providing extra income than her FLP activities.

Perhaps it's all on her business page I thought, but no, no FLP posts there this year either. I thought she may just have moved away from FB but I don't see much emphasis on FLP on insta either, but the wreath making features large. I got the sense that her heart wasn't in it a few months ago and I am not convinced she is in Yawn's group. With the house sale perhaps she has stood back and realised she has spent more than she has ever made through FLP. I hope so.

Speccy was at the latest event though?

@Spongebobette I got the feeling there was a plan to tinker with the criteria/lower barriers to "recognition" (or something like that) in order to bring in lots of new names, precisely to give the impression of a growing company currently attracting new people.

There have been a lot more new names mentioned during the latter part of last year, I wondered if they are targeting particular communities within the UK or opening the UK up for bots from elsewhere to pick over the bones. I suspect FLP has realised that wheeling out the same bots every year makes them look stagnant, especially when those bots are clearly belt tightening or insolvent. Plus many of those bots bring unwanted attention from anti MLM critics. The moving of offices is being sold as a fresh new look too, with no downsizing mentioned. Too little too late.

@Sugarplum48 yes, she still has her aloe shop too. I am just detecting a lack of day to day involvement and focus on other things including her proper job. Might be wrong though.

I agree

she is hoping to have a business with making wreaths and reindeer - good luck to her, it’s a much better idea than MLM

perhaps the house move has involved a financial advisor looking at their income and the awful truth about the lack of income from Forever Living has been brought into the light

I didn't see her in any of the pics.

Think she was on ubers pics or headband

It just so happens Speccy has posted this evening to say she is placing an aloe order tonight (for herself?) if anyone wants to add to her order. As it turns out no one does want anything, which is galling when you haven't mentioned it for over a month and there is still no queue forming.

It's all a bit half hearted all the same.

Probably as a result from a direction from above

HAVE YOU POSTED ABOUT ALOE TODAY?

So out of the thousands of successful UK, Ireland & Iceland Forever Living Business owners" only 18 have qualified for Global Rally and Chairman's Bonus.

14 at at the lowest 1.5K, 1 at 2.5K, 2 at 3.5K (Uber and Manbot) and Bloodsucker on her own at 7.5K. 5 days wasted in the la Defense Arena.

If you're a savvy bot and opt out of the rally with 90 day notice you'll receive 2.5K which is a no brainer to me and pay for a decent mini break.

No wonder they are pushing non-qualifier tickets so a few more union jack flag waving loons will bolster the numbers.

The end is surely nigh for the UK got to be.

@Botpotty I watched the video of the two US manhuns (Tweedle Dum and Dummer) discussing how wonderful things are at FLP. The U.K. was not mentioned except for ‘the U.K. office is downsizing moving to a nice modern office” and Bloodsucker’s first name was mentioned in a list of other names. The U.K. has disappeared so far from view that it cannot come back.

The problem they’ve got at the GR is that employing rent-a-crowd out of hours in France to fill up seats and wave flags is going to be much more expensive than it was in India and I’d imagine the response would be a resounding “non” to the idea if they plan to appeal to locals (if there are many knocking about in La Défense at a loose end). I can well imagine those US manhuns thinking that anywhere that is outside the US is grateful for a chance to bask in the sophisticated glory of the all American MLM opportunity. What self respecting Parisienne wouldn’t want to cancel her table at La Tour d’Argent and hop on the metro to La Défense for an evening of whooping and cheering and a cup of tipid Chateau FLP Faire Vomir 2024?

They will have to give tickets away to get seat fillers there but it will still be an expensive exercise only attractive to the hard of thinking.

I see Fierce is sharing her photos from Croatia, a little known place called Shutterstock on Sea.

Good luck to her in finding sun drenched coasts. It's about 10 degrees over there

@hurlyburlywhirly it seems freezing your arse off in a wintery Croatia in a caravan with a baby, a toddler and a grumpy looking husband just doesn’t cut it for the inspirational witch photos!

I just can't watch the US manhuns smarmy podgy faced fraudsters, bursting out of their shirt buttons.

I wish I'd screen shot a post I saw last year when an Indian Bot (a young man highflyer) was offering free tickets and 2 cold drinks to attend the Rally in India.

You're so right it's not going to work in Paris. I suppose with our 18 bots and their plus ones, thats 36 :) I wish they'd show the cheques again it was the highlight of my botwatching year.

Wow, that is dire!
Uber only 3.5k, I am sure she has qualified at 15k before.
I will see if I can find some heyday figures...

Wow yes 2016.
176 UK qualifiers.

Uber and Bloodsucker both 15K
Castle 12.5k.
Manbot 7.5k.

How do you go from 176, down to 9 years later 18, and say there's growth?