Botwatch 86!!! the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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Yawn wants everyone to have what she has. Er….no thanks.

What £200k debt, no job, no income, financial insecurity, no friends, a spineless husband, kids who want no part of her ridiculous world.... yeah what's not to want!!

So Yawn says she's lost 6.5 stone now...on her old Vinted account her user name was "I lost 5 stone" why does she keep lying when it's so easy to catch her out?

Oh, I don’t know … imagine what you could do with a mouldy thatch and a six-figure director’s loan! #sojealous

That £200 grand Directors loan would keep me awake at night...

Yawns projected 1000+ members of the unlucky girls club hasn’t materialised. So her “back of a fag packet” projected income of 250k annual income just hasn’t materialised. Assuming that only 50% of her members pay the monthly £22 that is a yield of a little over 12k. Probably covers the cost of colouring in pens and food and vet bills for the dog pack.
Along with the countless PR photo sessions.

How is she going to move forward with this venture? We know she has the attention span of a gnat and without much engagement she is going to rapidly lose interest particularly over the next couple of months when the weather is pants. There are few opportunities to promote her lifestyle unless she takes a couple of wealth affirming holidays abroad.

FL is pushing her out and I suspect her downline are rapidly jumping ship to Ubers gang. Is 2025 the year we see a major change of direction, is she going going to fade quietly into a real job or will she go for a different MLM company because that’s all she really knows. Yawn has such a massive ego and I doubt she would be happy starting again from scratch, particularly because she knows full well that the bottom layers of the pyramid are not where you can earn money.

She has basically become one of the insignificant downlines that she has, for so long, fleeced ruthlessly. Keeping up appearances must be absolutely hell and for the first time I actually feel sorry for her. Don’t get me wrong she deserves it, but what is sad is that she is unlikely to learn from it. They are all “ nasty girls” but being subjected to behaviour she was, until recently, guilty of must be very confusing.

Times are hard, people can't afford to spend £22 a month on mindless shit when it would put petrol in the car...

Also I think people are waking up to this kind of nonsense and have no time for it, just look at FB, it's saturated with self appointed 'coaches', they're ten a penny

Guru yawn now claims she manifested herself thin. The yawn l know well is still greedy. Maybe not for 3 teas but attention. Her problems now are she is repetitive and simply boring. Uber is effing her over big time. People are seeing the utter BS she is coming out with and not buying it. I really wish the 78 cult members she has wake up once and for all.

If all this manifesting shit worked there would be no disease, no world poverty and everyone would be happy healthy and rich....except they're not are they? Maybe that homeless guy I saw the other day just isn't trying hard enough....

I'm not sure where you're seeing that there are 78 members of the Unlucky Club? What I'd like to know is how many of the 78 (if there really are 78 real members) are actually paying £22 a month. She must have offered it to a lot of people for free to make it look busy.

I am sure Christmas must have done damage to what customers she had with just a bit of C9 activity to soften the blow. February looks bleak for Yawn, the C9 opportunity will be over and she's run out of material and life isn't getting any cheaper for anyone. Anyone left paying £22 a month will have realised they are just paying to shore up her ego and that £22 could be better spent elsewhere.

What's worse is that she is still heavily reliant on FLP but does not have the necessary visibility there. I wonder if she is just removed from view until TiNA/FTC has reviewed the changes FLP will claim to have made and when the coast is clear she will be invited by FLP to scam people out in the open again, at which point she will say 'I've decided to return to FLP full time even though my coaching biz was a six figure earner for me'.

Not to mention a rotting roof which is going to cost a huge amount to fix, the longer it's left the worse it will get..

And a broken boiler now as well to add to the list of expenses. I'm not quite sure why yawn had to mention she lived in a 400 yr old house because the boiler obviously isn't that old....Hope their insurance is all good seeing as they're going to be living with portable gas canisters and every wood / coal burning appliance going

@YouOKHun she's managed to find another fool to join.

The Thatch would keep me awake at night if it started raining in.

Uber is really going for it in terms of ripping yawns content of. Yawn must be spitting feathers

@ticktock19 I thought the same about how she seemed to be implying that the boiler breaks down every year because it's a 400 year old house!

If it happens every year wouldn't you have replaced it by now?

Maybe she's regretting selling those Primark vest tops on Vinted now, they could have kept her warm

@OhMyGiddyAunt exactly! Why would you keep a boiler that keeps breaking down? Surely the Yawn's can afford to replace it??!!

I wonder why she doesn't try manifesting it to work again, I mean apparently she does it for everything else in her life.

If you read the Merchants of Deception book by Eric Scheibeler you will see that this is nothing new and has been the case since MLMs began. It's the training that brings the money in, and only those who control the training make anything out of this.

Sorry, are Ubers initials EC?

Merchants of Deception was an eye-opener.

www.ask.or.tz/media/ebooks/non-religious/MerchantsOfDeception.pdf

If I remember correctly, last straw for Eric Scheibler was when he discovered Amway’s ‘training tools’ scam. He realised that the very few Ambots who were making the kind of money (i.e unlimited riches and multiple income streams) he was promised when he signed up, were taking a cut in the profits from training materials: recordings, books, seminars etc rather than sales. Ambots were encouraged to be their own best customers; they were brainwashed and bullied into ‘investing’ in such nonsense, as well as buying garage-loads of overpriced products.

Disturbing stuff, which sounds all too familiar.

I wonder if our old friend Eyes 👀 still follows these threads? Surely the ridiculous posting ban has been lifted after all these years. Go on, be a devil! 😈

Careful @BethanyBarleywater We’re not allowed to use initials, or we will be shot, etc.

Here’s a clue. First name, two syllables. First syllable BLANK King Cole. Second syllable: “I wouldn’t want to meet her down a dark BLANK.” (Hint: her first name isn’t Oldpassage).

Second name: same as that of Dennis, former Labour Party Chancellor of the Exchequer in the 1970s who had big eyebrows. Spelling is slightly different, but I don’t want to put my foot in it. 😉

Sorry and thank you!

I stayed up into the early hours reading this one night. I think this was the final catalyst into me leaving MLM. Before I was never quite sure if I just wasn’t working hard enough.

I’m also feeling sorry for Yawn. No one would want to trade places with her right now (and she has to keep up the facade of a perfect life to cling to the last straws of making money).

A 200k directors loan they have no chance of paying back- I’m stressed about a bit of unnecessary debt I had to get into recently and it’s not even a tenth of that and I can easily pay it off with my full time job.

A house with a roof and a boiler they can’t afford to repair that they are bound to lose.

No social life as all friends have been monetised and old colleagues have turned their back.

Huge career gap for almost 20 years, no experience or confidence enough to re-enter the working world.

Sitting there freezing in this weather with broken boiler, can’t afford to get an emergency repair out or stay elsewhere, forced to do Lives saying everything fine and feeling positive as they have a log burner and the hot waters sitting running, no natural negativity allowed as her business runs on her having manifested a perfect life.

Uber copying her business for free. Barely any new recruits. Not many people paying. Obviously not working. Comments over her exposure article and book showing the truth of her financial situation.

Honestly I do see her as another MLM victim. How can you not?