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Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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YouOKHun · 08/10/2024 19:32

Here is a new thread!

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Norma27 · 24/11/2024 08:59

You can see John Lewis in the insta post so it is right in the centre on a road with several office blocks.
There won’t be any outdoor space I don’t think except a car park.
Cant wait to see the bots wandering around Solihull 😂

Sugarplum48 · 24/11/2024 09:26

Maybe they'll erect a 2 man tent in the carpark for the bots??

Spongebobette · 24/11/2024 09:41

No summer garden parties then!

Norma27 · 24/11/2024 09:54

Maybe they will take over Tudor Grange Park instead.
They are all so gullible.

Sugarplum48 · 24/11/2024 10:14

They'll believe flp own the park next they are all that dense. Anyone else notice that 2jags has the charisma of a tone deaf plank? She really has nothing about her. All she does is pose in gym kit.

YouOKHun · 24/11/2024 10:15

FLP will be sharing with six other companies. I wonder if it will be somewhere the bots aren't even invited to cross the threshold? It could be just offices or perhaps they will be able to hold gatherings for the kind of dwindling numbers who would have previously fitted in their tent but only on a Saturday when the other six companies' salaried employees are enjoying their usual Saturday away from the office.

They probably have some other venue in mind for bot gatherings like a nearby Alan Partridge Travel Tavern with conference rooms available by the day. Or that hotel where Yawn went to do her talk to a women's networking group (that has never been mentioned again by the group in their regular updates on what's been happening).

Mr Scamaloupolis is going to have to pick his moments for his Lives in the glass and IKEA shared area as no one wants to appear in some fictional account of FLP's success when they're trying to quietly eat their sandwiches at lunchtime. He won't want to give away a carefully constructed fiction of FLP's expansion into "their" shiny new HQ.

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OhMyGiddyAunt · 24/11/2024 10:22

Shame that Jane Smith's comment was deleted from the FL post.

Hopefully a few bots saw it though

deviantfeline · 24/11/2024 10:35

OhMyGiddyAunt · 24/11/2024 10:22

Shame that Jane Smith's comment was deleted from the FL post.

Hopefully a few bots saw it though

What was it?

OhMyGiddyAunt · 24/11/2024 11:46

I can't remember exactly (wish I'd screen shot it now but I suspect Jane Smith may be in our midst and can clarify) - it was along the lines of pointing out that, despite the positive spin they'd tried to put on it, the offices were shared and questioned whether FBOs had been told the truth or whether, being so gullible, they'd fallen for the lies.

YouOKHun · 24/11/2024 14:56

FLP has given the bots including Yawn a portable speaker and a John Lewis voucher. Yawn says 'that's Christmas paid for thanks to the generosity of the company I've been coaching for' as if they employ her as a coach. It's in her FB Stories.

As far as I'm concerned she's on dodgy ground showing off gifts and talking about Christmas being paid for. She doesn't mention FLP but it's the same old positioning of a scam to the same gullible audience. Nothing has changed and I hope FLP doesn't get away with it. I've screen shot the Christmas gift post to add to my file marked 'FLP's continued endorsement of dishonesty'.

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Spongebobette · 24/11/2024 16:28

I wonder how much the gift card is for 🤔

Spongebobette · 24/11/2024 16:35

So jarring to see Yawn appear in a few photos with a couple of her downline but isn’t included in any of the big group photos

Crikeyalmighty · 24/11/2024 16:54

Solihull is not horrible or anything and I've been plenty of times , but it just seemed the kind of soulless place these scammy Salesy MLMs would go for - same goes for Milton Keynes 'in my opinion'

Spongebobette · 24/11/2024 17:04

The Manor certainly had a kind of prestige (our head office!) and gave visiting bots something to put on their socials (despite the fact that bots have only been allowed in the tent in recent years)

not sure an office block has quite the same appeal

OhMyGiddyAunt · 24/11/2024 17:08

So is the manor up for sale?

Spongebobette · 24/11/2024 17:09

I think the office space is already mostly rented out but perhaps it will be put on the market now

YouOKHun · 24/11/2024 17:59

@OhMyGiddyAunt didn't FLP UK rent it from Rex and now from his widow or something like that? Some kind of fiddle. Someone in the States probably wants to off load it as the UK is no longer the European golden child and isn't paying its way.

How would a commercial real estate person describe the manor?

"Manor House *nestled in an industrial estate. convenient for McDonalds. Comes with free tent. Caveat: this building is a former crime scene (deception/fraud) and your reputation may be tarnished as a result of making it your business premises".

*property is always "nestled" isn't it?

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Spongebobette · 24/11/2024 20:59

Yawn’s December ‘podcast’ expert is a ‘women’s divorce solicitor’

😬

Angrymum22 · 24/11/2024 21:03

Spongebobette · 24/11/2024 20:59

Yawn’s December ‘podcast’ expert is a ‘women’s divorce solicitor’

😬

Interesting. I wonder how she met her?

YouOKHun · 24/11/2024 21:30

Is the "women's divorce solicitor" the same person who was giving Yawn legal advice for her bizniz but has clearly failed to tell her to sort out GDPR and all the other things mentioned on this thread by botwatchers as being necessary and/or wise? I wouldn't want to engage a divorce lawyer with the kind of judgement that means she will take Yawn and her podcast seriously.

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DeliaDeetz · 24/11/2024 21:34

Think I've found the FB of the divorce coach. If it's her then she was at a FL tent event earlier this year and she's also seems to know the bot who recruited Yawn back in the day.

DeliaDeetz · 24/11/2024 21:38

Also found her website which states "this is not a law practice". However she is a member of The International Divorce Coach Centre of Excellence....whatever the hell that is!😂

YouOKHun · 24/11/2024 21:42

Can anyone explain to me how this from Yawn does not fall foul of the income claim rules when it's to an audience of downlines and recruits the day after being pictured at an FLP event? It feels very much entwined with FLP except Tawn and FLP are not mentioning each other. The damaging stuff is ever present all the same.

Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?
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YouOKHun · 24/11/2024 21:43

*Yawn

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Spongebobette · 24/11/2024 21:46

YouOKHun · 24/11/2024 21:42

Can anyone explain to me how this from Yawn does not fall foul of the income claim rules when it's to an audience of downlines and recruits the day after being pictured at an FLP event? It feels very much entwined with FLP except Tawn and FLP are not mentioning each other. The damaging stuff is ever present all the same.

Wow that’s a pretty big claim

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