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Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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YouOKHun · 08/10/2024 19:32

Here is a new thread!

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MaybeItsJustTimeToStop · 21/11/2024 11:51

Specsaver appears to be confused between vinted and insta.

BSintolerant · 21/11/2024 15:00

MaybeItsJustTimeToStop · 21/11/2024 11:51

Specsaver appears to be confused between vinted and insta.

She should’ve gone to Specsavers.

Bots are easily confused; this lot wouldn’t know their arses from their elbows and wouldn’t be able to find either with a map.

Mielabel · 21/11/2024 15:20

Yawn has very thick skin with how she responded to the comments on her article and the journal listing.

Also intrigued that being a childminder for a short period of time qualifies her to mentor ‘corporate’ people and entrepreneurs. As a relatively new mother I understand the value of good childcare but wouldn’t have made the connection to general business coaching.

Her financial manifestation techniques seem untapped as of yet, but honestly she may well be onto something with teaching mindset 😂

YouOKHun · 21/11/2024 16:07

Talking of Speccy Bot. I know the use of a charity by MLMs like Forever and their bots to try and increase volume and collect the data of new names who have been attracted by the "good cause" is much discussed. As well as the small proportion of money actually given to the good cause. Does anyone also find it jarring that Speccy uses a named photo of her own child in conjunction with a good cause that is all about children (presumably their protection) in a post on an open page which she hopes to be shared far and wide?

Why has the much publicised risks of sharing our children's images and information on social media not registered with bots like Speccy, Uber, 2Jags and Headband and not forgetting Salon, Castle, Fierce, Weird Willy (not lately) and many more? I know their scams rely upon any engagement they can get but you'd have thought this would be higher up the list of priorities. What would happen if MLMs were made responsible for the type of posts their bots shared. If FLP has the power to deal with/shut down certain content from bots (such as promoting another MLM) why can't they issue their bots with clear guidelines on the use of children to promote FLP even indirectly, then police the bots?

I want to share this with them. It touches on the for the digital footprint and the possible consequences of freely available SM photos and data of children. i_

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Spongebobette · 21/11/2024 17:08

This is one of the things that these bots do that makes my blood boil

Spongebobette · 21/11/2024 17:09

Several of them must have done Safeguarding training (the ex police bots) yet show zero awareness of the need to protect their children

terrywynne · 21/11/2024 17:34

If anyone has access to the New York Times, parents sharing their kids publicly always makes me think of this article. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/22/us/instagram-child-influencers.html To be clear, I am not saying anyone discussed on these threads does anything as bad as the parents in the article but it really brings home the dark side of social media

YouOKHun · 21/11/2024 18:13

I'll have a read of that @terrywynne. I think the NY Times did a big investigation didn't they?

In other news, Valentus hasn't been something I've thought about much lately but they seem to be having a go at reviving in the UK and I've seen this quite a few times over the last couple of weeks. They will struggle these days but there will be some who have no idea of Valentus's history.

Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?
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terrywynne · 21/11/2024 18:34

YouOKHun · 21/11/2024 18:13

I'll have a read of that @terrywynne. I think the NY Times did a big investigation didn't they?

In other news, Valentus hasn't been something I've thought about much lately but they seem to be having a go at reviving in the UK and I've seen this quite a few times over the last couple of weeks. They will struggle these days but there will be some who have no idea of Valentus's history.

Yes, I think it was one of the articles that came out of that big investigation. There was another one recently talking to one of the girls who is now an adult. It was quite sad really. She recognised that there were things wrong with her childhood but she seemed to think the solution was to make sure she is the one selling her images (and because she reported CSA images she was a good one). There was a lot to unpick psychological.

OhMyGiddyAunt · 21/11/2024 20:35

If you thought Nurse's habit of licking cotton buds and wiping them around her eyes demonstrated a very poor understanding of infection control then watch her current Insta stories where she's prodding her cold sores and then touching the rest of her mouth and face .

Clearly the overpriced aloe jizz hasn't supported her immune system or fulfilled any of the other spurious claims.

She's also having a moan about not having any free time when she only works 3 days a week!

deviantfeline · 22/11/2024 02:46

@OhMyGiddyAunt she blamed the last cold (about 3 weeks ago) on the lack of aloe jizz.

She's the worst advert given she has had more colds in 6 months than I've had in 6 years.

Spongebobette · 22/11/2024 14:49

It’s the lack of critical thinking (or any joined up thinking) that makes people like Nurse so vulnerable to MLMs

Spongebobette · 22/11/2024 16:20

i was doing some social media scrolling this pm and I must say Lanzabot’s daughter does seem to show her nearly bare bum to the camera a lot more than she shows her face 👀

Spongebobette · 22/11/2024 16:28

And Bruv is still filming and sharing what should be private family moments 🙄

OhMyGiddyAunt · 22/11/2024 16:49

Spongebobette · 22/11/2024 16:20

i was doing some social media scrolling this pm and I must say Lanzabot’s daughter does seem to show her nearly bare bum to the camera a lot more than she shows her face 👀

She's been doing that since she was about 14 ...all on public accounts, for all to see.

She's very confident about her own abilities (polite way of saying shes full of herself!)....seems to have had a couple of businesses (vanity projects funded by her parents like the restaurant or coaching style ones), yet spends most of her time swanning around on holiday showing off her arse.

BSintolerant · 22/11/2024 19:44

Is Lanzabot still delivering her “monkey-see-monkey-do” MLM training in her branded T-shirts?

Sugarplum48 · 23/11/2024 08:24

What does the word "inspiriert" mean. The reviews are still coming thick and fast with the odd 2 star review in there. Some of yawns review buddies really need to be typo checking.

OhMyGiddyAunt · 23/11/2024 09:13

There's obviously something going on in the background for Uber at the moment.

Her latest Facebook post has been edited to remove the bit about a "curveball" and her daughter keeping her going, keeping her moving forwards.

BSintolerant · 23/11/2024 09:14

Inspieriert is German for inspired. Die Glückliche Mädchen who wrote it ist obviously voller Scheiße. The reviews are certainly coming in thick and fast, and are written by people who are the former, and not the latter: at least this reviewer has a smartphone with German predictive text.

OhMyGiddyAunt · 23/11/2024 09:15

...oops posted too soon ....meant to say, I wonder if there are big changes afoot for FL UK.

Sugarplum48 · 23/11/2024 10:38

Oh dear the bots endeavours are being scuppered. Numbers dropping in the cult, uber crying on her kids little shoulder. Is this truly the end??

Sugarplum48 · 23/11/2024 11:34

How can you advertise a sale if you're not actually getting anything of value? It makes no sense at all?!

Whatsnmynameagain9 · 23/11/2024 11:47

Hello my tribe. I’ve been absent from the boards for a while and lost track of how to see what our fave bots are up to. Looks like lots of changes since I was last here (I’m old school from back in the day of eyes..!). Pls help me get back on track!

YouOKHun · 23/11/2024 12:14

@OhMyGiddyAunt with Uber these days the curved balls that get any mention are usually to do with a faltering relationship. I may have missed something but the (presumably many) curved balls chucked by FLP are not mentioned by Uber I find. Probably because she deftly ducks and lets them land at the feet of her downlines. FLP is always positioned as her saviour.

I suspect relationship issues or domestic such as Albatross-by-the-Sea still being a bone of contention with the builder ir simply costing too much.

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OhMyGiddyAunt · 23/11/2024 12:44

@YouOKHun yes, that's probably most likely.

It was just the way she edited the post. She's been quite vocal about the ex in the past though so not sure why she's being coy now.

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