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Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?

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YouOKHun · 08/10/2024 19:32

Here is a new thread!

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ticktock19 · 22/10/2024 10:38

Sugarplum48 · 22/10/2024 09:56

So yawn has now essentially admitted to working full time and is now only doing 3 days a week whilst claiming the academy isn't a bizniz op for anyone except for her whilst she scams your purse. Her podcast post has had zero attention on insta.

Very much the same as castle whose latest podcast offering (her life from 2019 onwards) appeared in my insta feed. There are 2 comments on it - her mum asking for it and castle saying, 'it's in your inbox'

YouOKHun · 22/10/2024 16:32

Mmm... I can see Yawn is making that drift towards discussing depression, anxiety, panic and, she says, suicide. As she has a closed group for this discussion I wonder what sort of risk assessment she has done? What sort of advice will she be giving about this subject? Because we can be sure she will be holding court. Will she be warning people before she starts discussing the last subject so they can opt out? Will she be providing crisis information?

It's probably time to revisit the question of what her privacy policy is and whether she has insurance.

Perhaps there will be no problems. I hope not. However there are some areas of discussion, however lightly they're touched upon that can be very difficult for people who may not display "negativity" in front of her. She's a careless and self-centred person who sees these subjects as a draw to her club. Just because she will treat the last subject lightly doesn't mean it will be received lightly.

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Spongebobette · 22/10/2024 16:48

Oh that sounds very dodgy

Spongebobette · 22/10/2024 16:49

She really considers herself an expert in every field doesn’t she

ticktock19 · 22/10/2024 16:50

I agree, I was quite shocked when I saw her list of 'subjects' they covered.

Spongebobette · 22/10/2024 17:18

Castle is claiming 135 million in sales over 10 years

🙄

YouOKHun · 22/10/2024 17:40

Is Castle using that calculator with the numbers in the wrong place again? As the oldest turret is an emerging genius perhaps she should hand the calculator to him so he can add up the numbers properly and not keep pressing the zero key. Is she too stupid to realise that what's left of her audience is unlikely to be as stupid as she is?

If you must lie Castle, at least think up something vaguely possible. If you overdo it then you'll get caught out sooner and be a figure of fun to many people, not just the botwatchers who can already see straight through you.

Ridiculous woman.

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PieonaBarm · 22/10/2024 19:15

Nurse will be doing a podcast for Yawn before the year is out. She'll absolutely do it for free, in fact she'll pay Yawn for the privilege of doing it.

YouOKHun · 22/10/2024 21:24

Yawn is being advertised on the FBO page today as still being one of the speakers tomorrow night at HQ. This can only be because they need her weight loss fiction ahead of C9 season (attempting pre-Christmas weight loss followed by recovering from Christmas weight loss). If this is going ahead will she be using photos from tomorrow's event to prop up her SM content while carefully not mentioning FLP?

How much of the Unlucky Girls Club content shared on SM tonight (and possibly recorded and distributed by someone) on some emotive and difficult subjects, based on an FLP downline's disclosures to her FLP upline, would FLP want shared on social media when the relationship between the two podcast "stars" and audience is very much FLP? It's all very well if Yawn isn't part of FLP but if she is still part of FLP as indicated by tomorrow's event, isn't her whole club a bit over the line for FLP (regardless of the subject)?

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Sugarplum48 · 23/10/2024 08:19

Castle will no doubt produce another playgroup crayon drawn chart to shown her 135 million pound earnings. Funny how her CH records show extraordinarily different.

Spongebobette · 23/10/2024 11:50

Castle is full of such utter shit - there’s a glimpse of her ‘live coaching’ someone in her inner circle Platinum group and recording it for the rest of the group (desperate for content much!)

it’s so trite I can’t believe anyone is actual business would take her seriously

ticktock19 · 23/10/2024 18:25

It really is frosty now Yawn isn't it

Botwatch 85 the continuing saga of MLM. When 99.6% of people joining MLM are destined to lose money is that an opportunity or a scam?
YouOKHun · 23/10/2024 19:50

ExBFF is having to sit through another of Yawn’s self congratulatory speeches tonight at the event which is mysteriously unnamed by Yawn on her social media. It must be like hearing a broken record over and over again. There’s a photo on BFF’s insta stories of her having a jolly time in the tent (fully rugged up) with Yawn in the background looking over, clearly on the stage and they’re not listening.

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deviantfeline · 23/10/2024 19:56

Is there anything worse than walking into a room to listen to untrained narcissists talk about themselves for several hours and finding that the 'drinks' consist of three bottles of bubbly for a room set up for 60.

They've either over catered on chairs or massively under-catered on drinks. Surely a company such as FL can afford to be abundant with the drinks? How embarrassing if they ran out.

Three bottles will give 15 people a glass each so one can only imagine that's how many they are expecting...or they are being extremely tight.

OhMyGiddyAunt · 23/10/2024 20:01

There’s a photo on BFF’s insta stories of her having a jolly time in the tent (fully rugged up) with Yawn in the background looking over, clearly on the stage and they’re not listening.

Ouch!

Spongebobette · 23/10/2024 20:24

YOU REALLY GET YOUR MONIES WORTH FROM ME !

but nothing about grammar and spelling, sadly

YouOKHun · 23/10/2024 20:31

And she has decided to break her weight loss "coaching" into mini workshops. This is clearly to try and get people to pay their £22 in November as she drags the information out over weeks.

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OhMyGiddyAunt · 23/10/2024 21:32

I notice that on the FL Facebook pages stories only 2 of the 3 speakers get mentioned .... no guesses needed as to which one is omitted

Ooowhatshappeningnow · 24/10/2024 07:57

Just catching up!

Sugarplum48 · 24/10/2024 10:20

So what is this new rubbish that castle is now pushing like a loon whilst also proclaiming her child is now a super elite child prodigy!! The woman is insufferable.

Spongebobette · 24/10/2024 11:48

Ah Yawn still has her downline and is still ‘coaching’ them - she carefully doesn’t mention Forever Living though

YouOKHun · 24/10/2024 12:07

@Spongebobette yes it's business as usual in terms of exploiting her downline's privacy to an audience of (mainly) downlines isn't it?

What I want to know is who decided she can't mention FLP or have the focus on her when appearing on stage in the tent? My guess is that she drew too much negative attention to FLP and her name got highlighted in the US as a problem thanks to Truth in Advertising which has some clout. I'm sure FLP can't afford to send her packing and her weight loss story is handy over C9 season. How does she keep up the FLP momentum if she can't bang on about it?

I'd be interested to know Uber's part in this change of direction for Yawn. Could FLP simply place Yawn's entire downline elsewhere? There is absolutely nothing stopping them. If they did that Yawn would also lose her Unlucky Girl Club as its audience appears to be mainly generated from FLP and any visibility she has is thanks to FLP.

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Spongebobette · 24/10/2024 12:33

An good point - might be a directive from the owners in the US to mute her

YouOKHun · 24/10/2024 13:17

My DS has just started at Bristol University and has just told me that he saw three FLP bots leafleting in the main shopping area in Bristol last week (he recognised the yellow theme and the logo). As Bristol was previously a leafleting target for Yawn I wonder if that activity was related to her? It's a desperate strategy whoever decided to try it.

He saw them arrive and when he walked back through 30 mins later they'd gone and he thinks they might have been moved on. What an old fashioned approach and a waste of paper.

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Spongebobette · 24/10/2024 13:23

Incredibly last century and a sure way to add to the litter in the streets

how on earth they think they can recruit by leafleting is beyond me

three bots, too. Presumably they don’t count their time or the cost of travel and leaflets against their income (if there is any) from FL

still, it gives them something to talk about in the weekly Zoom

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