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Botwatch 84!!! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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Spongebobette · 03/08/2024 15:30

New Fred!

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PieonaBarm · 19/09/2024 20:19

In other news Castle's ex-bff 2jags is poaching FLP "leaders" to her travel MLM and shouting it from the rooftops in her stories. That will upset a few people.

Angrymum22 · 19/09/2024 21:38

When we were children we loved playing post office or shop. Back in the days when computers were only in sci-fi films and everything was done by paper, we had hours of fun making our own stamps, dog licences, cheque books, forms etc. We rarely went on to actually play post office, the engaging bit was the planning, the playing bit was a bit boring.
I really think that these bots, like Yawn, love the prep, the planning, creating colourful stuff and basically organising, but when it comes to the actual work bit, running the business, the boring bit they lose interest.
Ive noticed that many of them are obsessed with Christmas and spend £££ and days prepping their house and family for just the one day. I suspect business is the same, it’s the prep that is fun.

Most businesses focus on the plan and budget. Yawn is spending a vast amount of money for something that is going to yield very low returns.

YouOKHun · 19/09/2024 21:54

"A smile is happiness you'll find right under your nose"

Here is today's bit of positivity from Handband. It is accompanied by her moronic gurning face as she tries to distract what followers she has from the fact her presence in their lives will be wholly negative. What's that under our noses? It's the smell of bullshit.

YouOKHun · 19/09/2024 22:17

@PieonaBarm yep Yawn and the lack of a seatbelt. Last time she wasn't wearing a seatbelt they were pelting along the M5.

It shows a real arrogance. If she wants to write her own death warrant fair enough but she will kill Mr Yawn as she's flung around the car and someone else will have to pick bits of her up as she has a much better chance of ending up in kit form should an accident happen. For someone who claims to have been in a serious accident in the past and who has a parent who will have seen many an accident and been (hopefully) keen on abiding by the law, she sure hasn't had any sense drummed into her. Still, a potentially fatal action like not bothering with a seatbelt makes total sense when a seatbelt could spoil the look doesn't it?

Perhaps you can manifest an airbag very quickly if you've had a lot of practice or a body bag if your manifesting isn't quite up to scratch?

definitelynotabot · 19/09/2024 22:27

PieonaBarm · 19/09/2024 20:19

In other news Castle's ex-bff 2jags is poaching FLP "leaders" to her travel MLM and shouting it from the rooftops in her stories. That will upset a few people.

I thought 2jags was someone else entirely... the bot I thought she was is still firmly fl. Could someone please give me a name hint?

PieonaBarm · 19/09/2024 23:49

@definitelynotabot I got it wrong, it's 2jags ex-bff that's gone to the travel one and is poaching FLP bots. I got confused with there being ex-bffs everywhere 🤦‍♀️

2jags is still firmly FLP. My apologies!

BotOff · 20/09/2024 01:01

Boring Name Man Bot has been in it for years. My belief, from insider knowledge a few years ago, is that he deliberately stayed under the radar. Why? Because he climbed to the top by buying huge amounts of stock from the MK warehouse when they had one (the cc’s were put through to whoever he needed to stack), and then the stockpiles of products were sold via channels like eBay. If I remember correctly he was behind a company selling on eBay! He obviously wasn’t doing it for the status back then, but for the money! The top ones from the same hey days did it for both and loved the limelight! He has only been more public in the past few years. Have HO begged him to because they are thin on the ground with leaders to show off? Mmmm, it’s got me thinking! But I know for a fact he is a rotten fraud too!

ticktock19 · 20/09/2024 08:38

Oh that's all very interesting @BotOff and makes a lot of sense as he's been in fl for 30yrs. I shall be reporting any FL posts I come across in our local groups that are connected to him / his son

YouOKHun · 20/09/2024 09:56

Thanks for that @BotOff, it makes total sense. He was an accountant before FLP. He and Bloodsucker are the only Diamond scammers in the U.K. I think. Last year Boring and his wife opened a high street careers hub called Chose Your Future in a Cheshire town which they positioned in the local media as a national hub for their new venture which, they said, aims to support people looking to change jobs or top up their incomes. FLP is mentioned but the whole look of the premises is one of Job Centre/community hub. There is something misleading about it to anyone not MLM aware.
They are a pair fucking sharks.

Spongebobette · 20/09/2024 12:10

That seems very much like the places that were set up by Herbalife bots and pretended to be something they were not

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YouOKHun · 20/09/2024 09:56

Thanks for that @BotOff, it makes total sense. He was an accountant before FLP. He and Bloodsucker are the only Diamond scammers in the U.K. I think. Last year Boring and his wife opened a high street careers hub called Chose Your Future in a Cheshire town which they positioned in the local media as a national hub for their new venture which, they said, aims to support people looking to change jobs or top up their incomes. FLP is mentioned but the whole look of the premises is one of Job Centre/community hub. There is something misleading about it to anyone not MLM aware.
They are a pair fucking sharks.

Bloody hell...I've just found the local news article, my brother in law and family live in that town, I might have to find time to go for a wander there next week and see where it is / what it is. I completely agree with your description of them @YouOKHun and it absolutely does sound like the same principle of the Herbalife fitness cafes.
Thankfully boring bots sons latest minion has had zero interest on any of his FL posts so that's a relief.

BSintolerant · 20/09/2024 14:09

How interesting! A barely disguised cult recruitment centre.

thenantwichnews.co.uk/2023/10/08/nantwich-training-centre-choose-your-future-opens/

Spongebobette · 20/09/2024 14:12

Oh look, the country manager Mr Scamopolous cut the ribbon at the opening

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definitelynotabot · 20/09/2024 14:43

Bloody hell.
No overheads? That is a complete lie for a start.
I cant see that place staying open long once people get wise.

YouOKHun · 20/09/2024 15:33

@definitelynotabot I wonder if it has survived? It opened last year. On their biz insta there is a post about him being "back in the saddle" have stopped for a number of years but still "earning a residual income". I looked into these two before and I'm now trying to remember the details but there was definitely something that didn't stack up.

ticktock19 · 20/09/2024 16:24

@YouOKHun I shall make it my mission next week to get over to Nantwich and have a snoop

AbbeyGrange · 20/09/2024 17:42

I thought Yawn had already launched? Is this a second launch because there wasn't any interest in the first one?

YouOKHun · 20/09/2024 17:52

Thanks @ticktock19!

Yawn is the gift that keeps on giving. She has put up a post emphasising the Lucked Out Girl Club is nothing to do with FLP but is "passion" biz set up to share all her many and varied successes. Among other things she's done it to battle hateful and jealous online trolls (aka anyone asking questions or pointing out inconsistencies) and to cut out people she thought were friends but secretly hated her and were toxic narcissists (Uber?). She has replaced the toxic narcissists with new friends who haven't yet done or said something Yawn doesn't like. A clear sign of a narcissistic personality is labelling everyone else as a narcissist.

So the Woo Club she has set up is purely two fingers to the other local bots because she knows that Yawnsville's aloe Vera county lines supply chain is now in the hands of others. In order not to look like yesterday's success she just has to make a lot of noise about something else. Not the basis of a business but certainly a way to speed up her passage into the bot wilderness with only her massive debt and Mr Passive for company.

Someone has pissed her off that's for sure!

YouOKHun · 20/09/2024 19:32

And sorry but the result of that photoshoot is some very unflattering photos, squinting into the sun and lots of straight on crotch shots. All beige clad untidily arrange legs. She is an attractive woman but these do her no favours. No photoshoot is going to save her anyway even if David Bailey himself took the pics.

ticktock19 · 20/09/2024 19:32

I'm not sure a bland beige outfit in front of grey / beige walls was the best choice for your photoshoot yawn...you just merge in to the background

ticktock19 · 20/09/2024 19:34

You said it far better than me @YouOKHun, I'd be gutted with those pics from all that time and money. She can look really lovely and that all looks so meh and not flattering

Spongebobette · 20/09/2024 19:41

Agreed

but she got to spend the evening looking through them on her laptop so it was nice narcissistic supply

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Spongebobette · 20/09/2024 19:42

YouOKHun · 20/09/2024 19:32

And sorry but the result of that photoshoot is some very unflattering photos, squinting into the sun and lots of straight on crotch shots. All beige clad untidily arrange legs. She is an attractive woman but these do her no favours. No photoshoot is going to save her anyway even if David Bailey himself took the pics.

She paid £450 for those shots and presumably nothing extra to get them photoshopped 😬

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PieonaBarm · 20/09/2024 19:47

The photos where she's pretending to sing with a microphone and then waving a toddlers wand with a star on the end about. And she paid for this 🤣🤣🤣

YouOKHun · 20/09/2024 19:52

@Spongebobette indeed. I expect Mr Yawn will get to work on them later ...

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