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Botwatch 84!!! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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Spongebobette · 03/08/2024 15:30

New Fred!

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ticktock19 · 18/09/2024 15:58

@dickiedavisthunderthighs ahh, that makes a great deal of sense then

YouOKHun · 18/09/2024 17:43

@Ticktock the Bot you mention (Whitehouse Paddington) is a big recruiter (as is his wife) and on a recent thread elsewhere on MN the friend of one of his recent recruits was expressing her big worries about her friend who had quit her senior NHS clinical role to go all in on FLP on the back of his promise of guaranteed success and in the hope of clearing debts.

The poster was very very worried about the trance like state her friend was in and how she was quoting the Bot in question and refusing to examine what she had been told. The friend said, 'Mr Bot warned me certain people would criticise me and I know it's because I'm leaving people behind and not everyone has entrepreneurial DNA'. That was a few months ago, I wonder what happened.

He is on the FBO page appearing in a recent Live all about recruiting. His accounts look quite interesting (as far as my limited ability to understand CH accounts goes).

YouOKHun · 18/09/2024 17:45

That should say @ticktock19, missed the 19!

Spongebobette · 18/09/2024 18:01

Wicked wicked people

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ticktock19 · 18/09/2024 18:51

YouOKHun · 18/09/2024 17:43

@Ticktock the Bot you mention (Whitehouse Paddington) is a big recruiter (as is his wife) and on a recent thread elsewhere on MN the friend of one of his recent recruits was expressing her big worries about her friend who had quit her senior NHS clinical role to go all in on FLP on the back of his promise of guaranteed success and in the hope of clearing debts.

The poster was very very worried about the trance like state her friend was in and how she was quoting the Bot in question and refusing to examine what she had been told. The friend said, 'Mr Bot warned me certain people would criticise me and I know it's because I'm leaving people behind and not everyone has entrepreneurial DNA'. That was a few months ago, I wonder what happened.

He is on the FBO page appearing in a recent Live all about recruiting. His accounts look quite interesting (as far as my limited ability to understand CH accounts goes).

Oh my word, he sounds like a proper nasty, manipulative barsteward then. I'll keep a close eye on him esp as his minions are circulating nearby

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 18/09/2024 23:22

Yawn, social media guru, is getting fuck all engagement on FB and TikTok. I think she's going to realise quickly that outside of her own echo chamber, it is very very hard launching a new venture.

YouOKHun · 19/09/2024 00:02

Yawn's engagement is definitely declining. The woo posts, FLP and boasting "success" type posts are the ones that get the lowest engagement. Post unrelated to those themes generally do better but still don't have the kind of engagement she needs.

She is simultaneously alienating different types of followers with her inauthentic flip flopping from simple dog walker to international global bizniz woman to woo loving magical thinker to weight loss expert, all to try and make FLP work and cover up that it isn't sustainable.

SnoogyWoo · 19/09/2024 05:57

The heights of FLP really messed them all up didn’t it, the false sense of security that they were all genius business women. How many relaunches have they all had with each one being more pathetic than the last. Fierces witchy woo page still only has 4 members! I have my own business, it’s successful but to build it is a daily grind to get more customers, I enjoy it and that’s how it’s supposed to be. This total crap that you do a few lives and you generate millions! Have a day off you MLM cretins.

terrywynne · 19/09/2024 07:52

Has Fierce actually allowed the general public to join her page/group yet? I seem to remember someone mentioned on a thread (possibly not an MLM one) who looked like they just had a couple of friends and family but it was because they were admins and no one else had been accepted. The numbers went up rapidly at a given date. Gotta build the hype etc. I think all these online launch things run to the same playbook - hence all the people selling courses on how to launch. Followed by the ones on what has changed and how you need to launch differently this year. And keep the money coming in. It is really jarring the number of posts that now see written in the same style as a Fierce or Castle launch but in other industries - I saw one for some tutoring type business the other day and it really put me off them.

OhMyGiddyAunt · 19/09/2024 13:30

Looks like the FL bot (PT/mum of twin girls/super fit) who recently went over the the travel side has persuaded the ex-flight attendant to join her.

Wonder how this is viewed by uplines and FL?

terrywynne · 19/09/2024 15:45

Ex-FL/travel bit is showing her privilege and lack of critical thinking with the claim that 100% of people have booked travel - hotel/flights/experiences - and that therefore 69 million people in the UK are booking travel.

So a) people in extreme poverty and/or those who are in hospital/prisons/long term care etc are all able to travel? And b) newborn babies are booking travel?

OhMyGiddyAunt · 19/09/2024 16:46

terrywynne · 19/09/2024 15:45

Ex-FL/travel bit is showing her privilege and lack of critical thinking with the claim that 100% of people have booked travel - hotel/flights/experiences - and that therefore 69 million people in the UK are booking travel.

So a) people in extreme poverty and/or those who are in hospital/prisons/long term care etc are all able to travel? And b) newborn babies are booking travel?

Despite the fact she's apparently a qualified physio (although who knows with the poetic licence these bots employ 🤔) she doesn't seem the sharpest knife in the drawer.

SnoogyWoo · 19/09/2024 17:21

Yawn travelling to Leeds for a photoshoot! They love a good photoshoot don’t they.

definitelynotabot · 19/09/2024 17:40

ticktock19 · 18/09/2024 13:04

So Yawns being booked for a business to present to women last night was just the normal blah blah for Forever. She's getting very weird in her posts. I went on the Forever Uk, Ireland, Iceland FBO page and there she is on their stories doing her normal.
I went on there as I've finally realised I have a FL bot near(ish) to me...he's apparently the top recruiter at the mo. His son has unfortunately followed him in to the business and it was one of the son's recruits that posted on one of our 'local' Facebook pages.
I've not come across the father before so I don't think he's known on these pages. He's got a very boring name - first name is the same as the comedian that loves fishing ---- Whitehouse and surname is the name of the family that Paddington moved in with.

Ah, the Dad has been in FL years and years. Has (had?) a big team and I sm sure he used to be an area manager/rep.

YouOKHun · 19/09/2024 17:45

Meanwhile Castle (remember her?) has been car shopping. She needs a new car because the glove box is full or some similar reason.

It would be a shame if any of her followers thought that her compulsive spending was a result of earnings from being a successful coach, wouldn't it? They might be tempted to trust what she says and even give her money.

Spongebobette · 19/09/2024 18:03

As I’ve often said, she needs constant ‘treats’

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SnoogyWoo · 19/09/2024 17:21

Yawn travelling to Leeds for a photoshoot! They love a good photoshoot don’t they.

She needs to put her seatbelt on. For someone who has allegedly been in a horrendous car crash in her teens she's very laissez-faire about road safety and wearing a seat belt

Spongebobette · 19/09/2024 19:17

Branding? Ffs

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Spongebobette · 19/09/2024 19:22

She’s spent £450 for a one hour photo shoot and has driven 7 hours

but mostly she gets to boast about having a photo shoot so it’s worth every penny and all that time on the motorway

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Spongebobette · 19/09/2024 19:35

Just catching up with Castle - last time I looked she was kitting out a dedicated space for her youngest and was looking for a teaching assistant?

today on her stories and said she was going to pick him up - from nursery presumably

hard to keep up

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LeoDiCapricorn · 19/09/2024 19:45

Castle also talked about opening a new school. I guess that's on the back burner?

Spongebobette · 19/09/2024 19:58

I’m so so uncomfortable with her using her son for social media content

thats probably why I’ve not been keeping up with her

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YouOKHun · 19/09/2024 20:01

@LeoDiCapricorn to anyone who thinks Castle should start a school, I have only one thing to say: Scamversity.

Imagine a school with input from Castle and Bruv who only yesterday was displaying his fine mind when discussing a certain Welsh newsreader from the point of view of being an "ex-Cop". He couldn't seem to even understand the basics like what the newsreader was actually charged with. He ended up saying "there may be someone cleverer than me who can explain it". Yep, I expect there will be some inanimate object that is in that camp, let's ask the kitchen sponge to explain it to you Bruv.

It's a good job Castle has the attention span of a Gnat who is particularly distractible and it won't ever happen.

PieonaBarm · 19/09/2024 20:17

Oh Bruv. Just go on Google. It's not hard. I'll just pop it here for you- basically by receiving the image and downloading/saving it, a particular newsreader was guilty of "making" the image. It doesn't mean he's "made" first generation images himself which is what that buffoon implies.

Botwatch 84!!!  Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams