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Botwatch 84!!! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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Spongebobette · 03/08/2024 15:30

New Fred!

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MaybeItsJustTimeToStop · 15/09/2024 22:13

Scotbot seems to be back, her and headband sharing exactly the same posts on fb this evening.

Also bloodsucker commenting on yawns run 'London Marathon next' 😆

definitelynotabot · 15/09/2024 22:58

I am slow and definitely not a competition runner, and still faster than Yawn. I don't think Yawn's time could be considered competitive? So full of BS.

The Director's Loan is huge. How long before HMRC put a stop to the bed and breakfasting?

YouOKHun · 16/09/2024 02:23

‘I suspect she is heading for compulsory strike off unless DM & DF bail her out”.

or a well timed legacy from the grandparent in the well appointed retirement apartment? It’s a very big bail out if it happens. Or perhaps she’s hoping to meet the cost by selling the Thatch? Whatever she does she needs to get on with it and stop bad-arsing around with beams of light and apps while the quarter of a million pound problem gets bigger.

AbbeyGrange · 16/09/2024 07:15

Any normal husband who's wife had a £200 grand debt would say "get a bloody job" instead he enables her egotistical shop playing by going along with it, but then he's probably terrified of the fall out if he dares mention about working for a living, he's one of those "if she's happy then I'm happy" blokes which are basically code words meaning he'll do anything for an easy life so he doesn't have to put up with her tantrums...

PieonaBarm · 16/09/2024 12:31

Hasn't M&D bailed her out before? I'm sure it's been mentioned on here previously

AbbeyGrange · 16/09/2024 14:05

PieonaBarm · 16/09/2024 12:31

Hasn't M&D bailed her out before? I'm sure it's been mentioned on here previously

Ooh not sure about that, I know Castles parents have though..

LoopyGremlin · 16/09/2024 15:36

Have HMRC asked for the tax payable? If this has been rolling on year after year why haven't they done something about it before now?

PieonaBarm · 16/09/2024 16:12

Maybe the whole woo thing she's into is a precursor to HMRC coming after her to enable her going living in that Caravan she dumped in the family woodland and she can style it as going back to woo nature

Spongebobette · 16/09/2024 16:28

She’s said she GUARANTEES her team will ‘make a lot of money’

dodgy claim

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Angrymum22 · 16/09/2024 18:13

user1474127873 · 15/09/2024 21:49

If she owes HMRC a whack of money and they get as much as a sniff of strike off, compulsory or voluntary, they can object and request it's suspended until the debt's paid either in full or by a time to pay arrangement.

I suppose that if they are the only creditor then it is not in their best interest to allow strike off. She may try and force it by not submitting accounts but since the loan has been b&b’d for a few years now tax will be applied.

hurlyburlywhirly · 16/09/2024 20:13

Christ, imagine taking decluttering tips off the queen of dunelm. I think she's really pushing it now .

PieonaBarm · 17/09/2024 04:51

hurlyburlywhirly · 16/09/2024 20:13

Christ, imagine taking decluttering tips off the queen of dunelm. I think she's really pushing it now .

It's to make space for "abundance". Of what no one seems to know.

Sugarplum48 · 17/09/2024 10:53

So yawn is now officially promoting herself as a fully bonifide LOA coach,stating in her fb bio she is said coach. Honest to christ it's like watching a slow mo car crash. The engagement levels on her posts are very low. How she sleeps at night knowing how much she owes to hmrc is beyond me.

YouOKHun · 17/09/2024 11:40

Fierce is really going full on with the witch scam. It is remarkable that ten people in the last hour say they want to watch her Live. Presumably (hopefully) they are just toadies who want to stay in her good books and won't actually give her any money.

She claims 1000 "souls" have already signed up for her free webinar on how to use witchcraft to manifest more wealth and shift your financial reality. When people start following these coaches I wonder how many different ones they follow before the penny drops that they are all saying exactly the same thing dressed up with a slightly different theme and that the entire concept could be captured on the back of a beer mat?

Interestingly someone has asked a question in an OCD peer supervision group about how to tackle OCD when a person is reinforcing intrusive thoughts through involvement in the world of manifestation and/or Lucky Girl Syndrome. The core of OCD is belief in intrusive thoughts as real and in an over inflated belief about responsibility for acting on those thoughts to prevent harm or control outcomes. The potential for someone to reinforce their OCD via manifestation is interesting and I wonder if this is going to come up quite a lot. A lot of people in the group are saying they've come across this problem.

SnoogyWoo · 17/09/2024 16:07

Well the 1000s lined up to watch her free webinar is a grand total of ONE as of now. The 4 in the group are her, her husband and her friend plus another.

Botwatch 84!!!  Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams
Twentytwentyhindsight · 18/09/2024 09:27

I can confirm that the group still consists of 4 people: Mr & Mrs Fierce and 2 pals (all 4 are group admins), so not a single punter as of yet.

YouOKHun · 18/09/2024 09:39

@SnoogyWoo there don't seem to be many takers do they? I'm finding it hard to believe her coaching has generated a millionaire lifestyle based on the lack of interest in a free offering!

SnoogyWoo · 18/09/2024 10:17

It’s shocking really. I noticed on her latest lives she looks a bit run down, almost like she has stress hives around her mouth and she keeps scratching them.

Spongebobette · 18/09/2024 10:21

Agree - she looks dreadful

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Spongebobette · 18/09/2024 10:31

The ‘join me and be one of the elite’ message isn’t working when you have to record videos for social media sitting in your car looking tired and stressed

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YouOKHun · 18/09/2024 12:29

Yes, I thought that too. She looked stressed and run down. I thought to myself that perhaps it was the first time I'd watched her close up but no, she definitely looks under par. I imagine that living with two very small children in a caravan on a permanent basis is very intense and isn't a choice.

The Forever Home in Portugal where she claimed to be in the middle of a supportive community where they would put down roots was suddenly over. They took flight quickly and I wonder if something happened. The desperate witch thing has been the theme since. It's stressful being on the run!

I'd love to know why they need to keep moving. We know they didn't own the large house in Spain. We know they have failed businesses in the UK. We know they don't own the house they claim to own in Wales (it's her mother's I think). We know there are some very disgruntled victims in the UK. I bet there is a whole load of trouble we don't know about (and funding from parents). The Fierces are another example of FLP being the gateway to Hell even if you have some "success" as a Bot.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 18/09/2024 12:39

Got an email from fierce after expressing an interest in joining the FB group.
It included the following:

"The group will officially open on Monday 30th September - but you NEED to be in there to make sure you get the benefit of our coven community and to be in with a chance to win a FREE sleepover and strategy session at my house."

I presume by "my house", she means a tent pitched up by her caravan in a lay-by somewhere in Europe?

ticktock19 · 18/09/2024 13:04

So Yawns being booked for a business to present to women last night was just the normal blah blah for Forever. She's getting very weird in her posts. I went on the Forever Uk, Ireland, Iceland FBO page and there she is on their stories doing her normal.
I went on there as I've finally realised I have a FL bot near(ish) to me...he's apparently the top recruiter at the mo. His son has unfortunately followed him in to the business and it was one of the son's recruits that posted on one of our 'local' Facebook pages.
I've not come across the father before so I don't think he's known on these pages. He's got a very boring name - first name is the same as the comedian that loves fishing ---- Whitehouse and surname is the name of the family that Paddington moved in with.

Spongebobette · 18/09/2024 14:01

Twentytwentyhindsight · 18/09/2024 12:39

Got an email from fierce after expressing an interest in joining the FB group.
It included the following:

"The group will officially open on Monday 30th September - but you NEED to be in there to make sure you get the benefit of our coven community and to be in with a chance to win a FREE sleepover and strategy session at my house."

I presume by "my house", she means a tent pitched up by her caravan in a lay-by somewhere in Europe?

‘Coven Community’ 🙄

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dickiedavisthunderthighs · 18/09/2024 14:21

ticktock19 · 18/09/2024 13:04

So Yawns being booked for a business to present to women last night was just the normal blah blah for Forever. She's getting very weird in her posts. I went on the Forever Uk, Ireland, Iceland FBO page and there she is on their stories doing her normal.
I went on there as I've finally realised I have a FL bot near(ish) to me...he's apparently the top recruiter at the mo. His son has unfortunately followed him in to the business and it was one of the son's recruits that posted on one of our 'local' Facebook pages.
I've not come across the father before so I don't think he's known on these pages. He's got a very boring name - first name is the same as the comedian that loves fishing ---- Whitehouse and surname is the name of the family that Paddington moved in with.

I spotted that. I think she filmed it for TikTok (where she spends her life pretending she isn't an aloe vera sales rep) and then posted it on FB forgetting that the 'booked by a business' would look very odd indeed to her bot audience.