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Botwatch 84!!! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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Spongebobette · 03/08/2024 15:30

New Fred!

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YouOKHun · 08/09/2024 13:50

If Yawn's victims need an instant bizniz database then they could do a quick search on instagram for the photos published (separately) by the privacy aware Castle and by the GDPR conscious 2Jags showing them "working" at their laptops with the screen clearly visible showing the private details of their victims. Why not just lift those private details as their privacy has already been trashed by a pair of entrepreneurial plankton?

It's good to know that as ex-Police these two are so on the ball, especially as one of them is still married to a serving police officer who presumably could do with a spouse not being too free with information about him and their children. Imagine if the biggest drugs lord in the area gets wind of 2Jags home address and decides to stop her pushing Aloe Vera on his patch? He'd know where to find them.

I am sure Yawn's database building tips will be all about obtaining information in indirect and underhand ways. If it proves tricky to manifest your potential recruit's private details then invite them to a meeting in Costa and turn their handbag upside down and go through it with a fine tooth comb until you find what you need.

Spongebobette · 08/09/2024 16:25

Database building just means a ‘who do I know’ list, divided into warm and cold, and a record of who you have contacted and when you intend to follow up

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Spongebobette · 08/09/2024 17:38

Nurse’s AMA questions are, once again, written by herself

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DeliaDeetz · 08/09/2024 20:47

Spongebobette · 08/09/2024 17:38

Nurse’s AMA questions are, once again, written by herself

Its just so blatant! 😂 She is obviously desperate to talk to someone about her new "dream job"...just do a bunch of stories about it rather than the pretence that others want to know!
Will be interesting to see how she gets on, since she manifested it and all!

Spongebobette · 09/09/2024 07:29

I wish someone would ask her if she ever mentions LOA and manifestation to her patients

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deviantfeline · 09/09/2024 09:23

@Spongebobette her YouTube video is once again 12 minutes all about her.
Why 'I' decided to become a coach
Why 'I' decided on 'my' niche
My coaching journey and stuff that didn't work.
my job
My worries and concerns about this venture
My experience
What I did
How I felt during IVF

It goes on

Rule number 1 is surely to never focus on yourself over your client.

Also the immortal words 'I'm a nurse mainly and I do this on the side'. Well that's given me confidence! Not

Spongebobette · 09/09/2024 09:30

I can’t find her channel - any clues?

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Spongebobette · 09/09/2024 09:32

Because typing in IVF coach throws up a gazillion channels 🤯

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TeaOrCoffeeOrHotChocolate · 09/09/2024 14:42

The link is on her stories

Spongebobette · 09/09/2024 16:33

I can’t see them - well not the link

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deviantfeline · 09/09/2024 19:40

@Spongebobette

Name underscore surname underscore ivfcoach no spaces

Oddly though I can't find her in a YouTube search on the name, only from the link she posted on stories on insta. So that's great business sense.

Spongebobette · 09/09/2024 19:52

Omg she actually suggests it was her mindset change that made her IVF successful

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YouOKHun · 10/09/2024 17:23

Yawn's posts about her outing to Bloodsucker's house contain (unsurprisingly) some lies and stretching of the truth. When she pans around the room capturing the women she says she was coaching she has included 2Jags and £22 Bot. Neither will take kindly to being lumped in with the lesser victims. Those two being present puts paid to the idea they are ALL making amazing amounts of money. It's only true of Bloodsucker (for now).

Lastly, former careers, Yawn says 'childminder and Educator'. How was she an educator in the formal sense? Wasn't the childminding very short lived anyway? Sorry to see two social workers there, let's hope they are well away from that role now if they've signed up to the cult.

YouOKHun · 10/09/2024 17:31

Headband has been sharing the secrets of how to be successful in FLP having been asked to do so by the company. Notice she's not sharing the secrets of HER success, just trotting out the well worn fiction about how to be successful. Tips that have yet to help her a decade in to her "journey". Do you think she realises that she is chosen because she will cheerfully deliver absolute fiction. I wonder if she ever thinks about why those secrets haven't worked for her? I suppose that would be negative thinking and that is absolutely not allowed.

Spongebobette · 10/09/2024 18:01

Headband is what is known as a Useful Idiot

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SnoogyWoo · 10/09/2024 20:39

Just read fierces Witchy sign up web page, never read so much crap in all my life. She really proves they will do anything to scam a few quid. Claims shes been a witch all the time and that’s what made her a multi millionaire…..

Today, I’m a modern-day witch, a mother of two miracle children, and a self-made millionaire—all achieved through the power of witchcraft.

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BSintolerant · 10/09/2024 21:17

Don’t mention the name of the Bloodsucker @TheHorseOnSeventhAvenue 😉

I suspect Bloodsucker’s made her money from being paid by FL to deliver brainwashing sessions. The training tools scam is the shadow pyramid …

TheHorseOnSeventhAvenue · 10/09/2024 21:24

PS As I’m commenting after so long I am intrigued that PHD appears to have set up a new limited company from a rented Manchester address she doesn’t reside in.

Despite only talking about money and finance, her business is listed as Management Consultancy other than financial activities - she’s the biggest, laziest Charlatan out there.

But at least she’s not making any real money out of rinsing people.

xenu1 · 11/09/2024 07:58

Hi Huns!

Keep up the good work, exposing these MLM scammers!

News from the USA - The FTC has just released a detailed document examining MLM bullsh*t. You know the story, of course, but more real data, and I hope the FTC take action.

Report at: https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/mlm-ids-report.pdf

The "earnings" breakdown charts are brutally detailed...

Hat tip: Consumer Health Digest (https://lists.quackwatch.org/mailman/listinfo/chd_lists.quackwatch.org)

FTC staff says most MLM earnings disclosures are misleading
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has issued a 95-page staff report detailing findings from a February 2023 review of income-disclosure statements. The statements were available on the websites of 70 different multi-level marketing (MLM) companies that ranged from large, household names to smaller, less well-known companies. Such statements are often provided to consumers who are considering joining MLM companies. Multi-level marketing income disclosure statements: An FTC staff report. Federal Trade Commission, Sept 2024] The report notes that many or most of the statements:

  • do not disclose that displays of earnings omit participants with low or no earnings
  • don’t account for the expenses faced by participants, which can exceed their income
  • emphasize the high earnings of a few participants
  • entirely omit or only inconspicuously disclose key information about the limited earnings made by most participants
  • present earnings information in a potentially confusing way, such as by giving average earnings amounts for groups that could have very different actual incomes, or using annual income figures that aren’t based on what an actual group of participants made for the year
The report also notes that many MLM participants received no payments from the MLM companies, and the vast majority received $1,000 or less per year. FTC staff issue report on multi-level marketing income disclosures. FTC press release, Sept 4, 2024] Consumers have been found to expect more supplemental income from MLM participation than they are likely to earn.

https://www.ftc.gov/system/files/ftc_gov/pdf/mlm-ids-report.pdf

Spongebobette · 11/09/2024 09:35

Oh this is very thorough

I like this v clear table - wish I could post it all over bots’ social media!! Including all those who trekked to Bloodsucker’s home to be lied to

Botwatch 84!!!  Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams
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dickiedavisthunderthighs · 11/09/2024 14:02

Been ill in bed for the past few days so have had a nice time MLM doom-scrolling in between naps:

One of Reminiscience's tippy-tops (name is the middle colour on traffic lights) has left Monat to join something called Beyond Beauty Club. The products are absolutely eye-wateringly expensive and on autoship at a minimum of $100 per month ($300 buys you a moisturiser, a cleanser an a toner which are supposed to last 3 months). The name behind them is a familiar face-lifter to the stars, but a search shows he has a lot of criticism behind him for not actually being a registered aesthetician.

Scotbot doesn't appear to be in Yawn's 'leadership team' anymore, and has posted that she's started to teach again (she looks effing amazing).

Yawn is clearly launching herself as a manifestation coach in October. Meanwhile Fierce says manifestation is rubbish and it's all about witchcraft, and her ex-business partner is spending money on FB ads like they're going out of fashion.

Wig and Sleaze might be starting to see the fruits of their labour turn rotten. Daisy AI isn't paying out and the 'investors' have finally realised they are being scammed and are being very vocal about it in the groups promoting the new healthcare scam. Clearly the ponzi owners have relied on this and the sports one to generate enough income to pay off Daisy, but it's not happening, and nobody wants in until they get their money back. I literally cannot wait until they're both back in their Swansea 2-bed with a fourth-hand Peugeot 106.

Spongebobette · 11/09/2024 14:26

Thank you for the update and doing the hard work of trawling through the bots’ pages so we don’t have to!

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Spongebobette · 11/09/2024 14:42

Remember Weird Willy’s ex, Homeschool?

she claiming that ‘the last 15 months have been hell’

i wonder why?

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xenu1 · 11/09/2024 14:49

From the FTC report - breakdown of "earnings" by percentage of bots in the organisation ..
No mention of any expenses, if course!

Botwatch 84!!!  Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams
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