Botwatch 84!!! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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New Fred!

Why have they all gone down the woo route?

You don't have to be a witch to know that if you defraud, manipulate and mislead people for your own financial gain, you are generating a load of shitty karma for yourself that no spell is going to fix.

Yawn is absolutely planning on charging a subscription. Zero qualifications and basically running a weight loss/training session with a bit of life coaching rubbish thrown in

Yes I spotted that but I did wonder whether that was why she had a FB site”hack” meltdown. I wonder if her site was temporarily taken down after a report by HQ and she may have had to remove any association with FL from that specific post.
Also “coveting” Freudian slip or subliminal suggest.

They will try anything to scam a few quid.

She has run out of the usual subjects to scam in the MLM world. She’s now targeting groups that may not have come across her, in fact despite all their global claims most of these super bots are nobodies in the world outside of MLM and when the general public do notice them it probably feeds their egos.

The fact that MN do not allow us to identify them must be really frustrating, even if the comments are often negative. Any acknowledgment is good for them.

Someone I was at school with said she was a witch. She took a dislike to me and told all her friends she'd put a spell on me so that I'd fail all my exams.
She wasn't a very good witch...
It's all just bullshit isn't it?

@Angrymum22 those sisters are former teachers with a chequered employment history. There's a publicly available document about one sister's unsuccessful action against her former employers. From memory her claims of long term sickness due to depression and anxiety were questioned due to her appearing at events in a mindset coaching capacity, spouting "my life is wonderful" while on long term paid sick leave. Proof that toxic positivity can and does bite people on the arse.

Bloody hell. Stupid as well as manipulative

‘Private badass community’

what is that

sounds like she’s trying to persuade women to join her mean girls club

"Unfuck your life with witchcraft"

I think there hasn't been enough takers for a new version of her Fox TV scam. They have also taken flight from their "forever home" in Portugal so something has gone wrong. The spiritual scam is easier to do on the run as it requires no actual deliverables like going to a TV studio. It's really scraping the bottom of the cauldron all the same.

Shouldn't Yawn be insured for what she's doing? If someone is following her programme and taking advice about diet and exercise from her then I would have thought she would be wise to have it (even if her customers are all bots).

Is Yawn registered with ICO? She must hold information about the people she's coaching. Hiding in a private FB group doesn't let her off the hook.

Yawns found a white feather on her windscreen. I've just found at my garage door. What does it mean? 😂

Someone killed a super soaring flappy pigeon?

@MrsDilligaf I did wonder if the neighbours cat might have been involved. If I was Castle I would be all woo about it being a sign from her sister

Fierce has a deeply religious person questioning her Witchy beliefs plus the final comment just says it’s just another marketing ploy anyway. Spot on.

My goodness there are some nutters on that thread

As Fierce is a self-proclaimed “professional witch” does this mean she’s got two income streams if she sticks her broomstick up her arse and sweeps the floor at the same time?

Is the rise in "woo" linked to declines in organised religious attendance? People are looking to fill that desire for understanding in an often chaotic world with something? And woo seems to offer more personal agency and "power".

I am somewhat 🤔 at the comment claiming witches are more persecuted now than in "the Burning Times". Also saw someone say that they followed Fierce since the "Forever" days - I hadn't realised she is just an ex MLM bot rather than someone we became aware of because she joined up with Castle briefly.

Yeah, Fierce got a FL sad yoga mat back in 2016.

@terrywynne Mr and Mrs Fierce had a brief moment of success in FLP, blink and you'd have missed it. There is definitely a leg up coming from somewhere, parents I think. Hence the £80k vehicle purchase. It must be galling for the string of UK creditors they both have.

I think you're right about the quest for meaning in a secular world but in the case of Fierce (and Yawn these days) it's just a cynical quest to line their own pockets. It is at least a sign that they are running out of steam. How to sell the business opportunity when you've got nothing to show for it? If you can't be aspirational and turn up in a new white Rangey you're going to have to be inspirational by finding some crackpot Poundland spirituality to distract from the lack of purchasing power.

Nurse literally manifested her new job apparently and totally believes in the Law of Attraction 🙄

it’s a shame she can’t manifest away her asthma

Am I misremembering but wasn't Fierce targeting some ultra religious communities in the US a year or two ago? - about the time that she left Castle in Spain with Scamversity.

Is Scamversity still going?

Not just a job but her "dream job" apparently....it was on her goal board!

All she needs now is to manifest some coaching clients and the end of her book!

Yawn is doing a Trump and has really lost the plot. Now banging on about tree people. No bugger is going to pay you to spout about your weight loss. Cloud cookoo land. Less tree hugging and more job hunting yawn!!

She conveniently forgets the fact the she went to whinge to her boss that the current job was too far away, too much like hard work and was going to leave unless they found her a role closer to home.
So far she claims to have manifested parking spaces and her 'dream job' which is the one she was forced to take because interestingly she hasn't yet manifested a successful coaching business.