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Botwatch 84!!! Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams

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Spongebobette · 03/08/2024 15:30

New Fred!

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YouOKHun · 02/09/2024 14:55

"Even though I have my abundant amazing life which I've manifested shit still happens".

She is so full of shit. I don't think she was hacked, more like there have been enough reports for them to take a look. She is lucky that nothing appears to breach FB standards (not even the behaviours/posts that they claim are a breach). Of course that's if it's true and not just a dramatic claim as a reason to WhatsApp people and post about LoA to remind them she exists. I've certainly had no problem looking at her FB during the time she claims her FB was down.

DeliaDeetz · 02/09/2024 15:35

So following on from Nurse manifesting back her Internet, we now have Yawn getting her FB profile back too!
If only the pair of them could manifest a successful business.....😂

OhMyGiddyAunt · 02/09/2024 18:35

No shit Sherlock.

Wow. Is this the sort of knowledge you'd be paying for on Yawn's programme ?!?!

Botwatch 84!!!  Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams
Spongebobette · 02/09/2024 18:59

She’s the copy and paste queen

you know she didn’t write that as it doesn’t have multiple misplaced commas

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YouOKHun · 02/09/2024 20:43

I'm rewatching Peep Show and am now watching series 8 where Jeremy becomes a life coach after a week's training on a course called Personal Invoicing Life Coaching. When he fails the course Mark gets his dodgy publisher to print Jeremy a certificate to show he is a qualified life coach, saying, 'the great thing is the genuine certificate is so worthless that there's very little chance of this forgery being detected'.

I can't help thinking of Castle and her certificate printing (who has had an exchange with PhD. Is that the next partnership?) and of Yawn and her coaching expertise. I can't wait to see other bits of Yawn insight. Surely all the programme attendees have heard it all before seen as they're all bots.

Someone is responding to her "shit hitting the fan" post by saying they had a horrible experience at work last week and Yawn has said "you won't need your job now [you've signed up to FLP]".

Spongebobette · 03/09/2024 06:13

Posted by Nurse

what does this even mean? Somebody please explain

Botwatch 84!!!  Research shows 99.6% of participants in MLM schemes lose money and much more. From Forever Living to Arbonne and everything in between - all scams
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Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/09/2024 08:41

The usual "if it doesn't happen for you, it's because you're not believing/wanting/thinking about it enough", blending magical thinking with victim blaming.

Spongebobette · 03/09/2024 08:55

But how is it impersonal but at the same time minutely personal?

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 03/09/2024 10:15

That's the magical thinking. It is an immutable law of nature that you leverage by manifesting- a bit like praying (of course, if you are unable to leverage it, there are plenty of LoA/manifesting coaches that will laugh all the way to the bank show you how).

deviantfeline · 03/09/2024 11:01

Nurse and the kid have yet another cold. So the aloe goop didn't work then did it?
Shes had about 4 colds in the time I've had, err none. And I spend my time imbibing fine red wine (and no aloe shite)

YouOKHun · 03/09/2024 15:57

Does RB mean "universal" when she says impersonal @Spongebobette? Who knows and it doesn't really matter in the end because the rest of her word salad is manipulative horse shit.

If someone wants to visualise achieving their ambitions and takes a realistic and flexible view about achieving them, builds a healthy philosophy about failure and adjustment of goals/moving to plan B AND takes active steps towards those goals then that is good but that's not what proponents of LoA are suggesting.

The whole LoA thing is like a mass gaslighting exercise where pragmatism, rational thinking and self-awareness are banned and labelled as "negative" and self-efficacy manipulated. Nurse now has the goals she thinks she should have because that's what her coach (and previously Yawn) has dictated her goals should be. She's so lost that she is reliant on a happy accident (like a good parking space) to convince herself she is on the right track. So much harm has flowed from this.

She can continue to gaslight herself about the daily ups and downs but what happens to people like Nurse who have marinaded themselves in this toxic positivity and magical thinking when a big negative comes along that is beyond their control and very difficult? I'm thinking of things like divorce, illness, bereavement. What happens if being positive is a completely irrational response? When a bad thing happens how does someone cope if they have isolated themselves from all but the similarly gaslit who, when the big negative thing happens, will distance themselves from "dangerous negativity". I've seen clients before who have really disturbed and isolated themselves this way.

Steve Hassan has a good summary of what we often say on these threads www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-of-mind/202302/why-the-law-of-attraction-is-problematic-and-dangerous#:~:text=A%20major%20concern%20with%20the,able%20to%20manifest%20their%20desires.

Sugarplum48 · 03/09/2024 16:50

Who wants to bet that yawn had a epic meltdown over her fb. She was clearly reported. The fact she was on the verge of tears in that video speaks volumes.

Spongebobette · 03/09/2024 16:53

YouOKHun · 03/09/2024 15:57

Does RB mean "universal" when she says impersonal @Spongebobette? Who knows and it doesn't really matter in the end because the rest of her word salad is manipulative horse shit.

If someone wants to visualise achieving their ambitions and takes a realistic and flexible view about achieving them, builds a healthy philosophy about failure and adjustment of goals/moving to plan B AND takes active steps towards those goals then that is good but that's not what proponents of LoA are suggesting.

The whole LoA thing is like a mass gaslighting exercise where pragmatism, rational thinking and self-awareness are banned and labelled as "negative" and self-efficacy manipulated. Nurse now has the goals she thinks she should have because that's what her coach (and previously Yawn) has dictated her goals should be. She's so lost that she is reliant on a happy accident (like a good parking space) to convince herself she is on the right track. So much harm has flowed from this.

She can continue to gaslight herself about the daily ups and downs but what happens to people like Nurse who have marinaded themselves in this toxic positivity and magical thinking when a big negative comes along that is beyond their control and very difficult? I'm thinking of things like divorce, illness, bereavement. What happens if being positive is a completely irrational response? When a bad thing happens how does someone cope if they have isolated themselves from all but the similarly gaslit who, when the big negative thing happens, will distance themselves from "dangerous negativity". I've seen clients before who have really disturbed and isolated themselves this way.

Steve Hassan has a good summary of what we often say on these threads www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/freedom-of-mind/202302/why-the-law-of-attraction-is-problematic-and-dangerous#:~:text=A%20major%20concern%20with%20the,able%20to%20manifest%20their%20desires.

I listen to Steve Hassan’s podcast, he’s really good about cults

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YouOKHun · 03/09/2024 20:13

Yawn is going on about everyone's pay packets bursting with the company growth in August. I've also heard 2Jags saying the same. This seems unlikely though August may have been better than previous months but recent performance isn't a high bar. It's more likely the numbers have been manipulated to try and boost morale and present a sense of FLP being in good health.

I wonder who has been manifesting the lowest turnover for FLP in over a decade. Was it one of you? Anyway, never mind that tiny issue, Yawn's sold some extra C9s. The Cubic Zirconia Group will save the day with their £83 monthly earnings.

Spongebobette · 03/09/2024 20:24

These ‘big fish’ are gasping for air in an ever shrinking pool

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PieonaBarm · 03/09/2024 20:46

Sugarplum48 · 03/09/2024 16:50

Who wants to bet that yawn had a epic meltdown over her fb. She was clearly reported. The fact she was on the verge of tears in that video speaks volumes.

She turns every negative into a positive now don't you know!

Angrymum22 · 04/09/2024 08:29

Yawn gave a 2.5hr introduction to her new Lucky Girl Academy, how she lost 6.5 stone pound by pound I assume.
I doubt that she mentioned the weekly injection that made it easy.
The name for her new group of suckers has been changing daily, now it sounds and looks like an amateurish and rather seedy course on how to run a brothel.

Spongebobette · 04/09/2024 08:55

I wonder how many ‘clients’ are already bots

is sounds as though the whole 2.5 hours was an exercise in narcissistic supply, judging by the messages she’s posting

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BSintolerant · 04/09/2024 08:58

🤣 @Angrymum22

I can’t imagine Yawn running a brothel for two reasons. Firstly, the oldest profession is a more honest way of making money than joining an MLM. Secondly, Yawn couldn’t organise a leg-over in a brothel, let alone manage such an establishment. 😉

SnoogyWoo · 04/09/2024 09:04

I had a look at yawns mentor and I was expecting some big numbers to get coached by her, thinking how could yawn afford that. Turns out she’s rather low rent at £27 a month 🤣 they all just operate in the gutter don’t they.

Angrymum22 · 04/09/2024 09:05

The name piqued my interest and it seems to be derived from “ The lucky girl Syndrome” trend on social media.

Found this quote from an article in Bazaar which pretty much describes our Yawn.
"Depending on who you ask, it’s either an empowering practice that can see you fulfil your dreams by repeating daily affirmations such as 'Everything works out well for me'," explains executive career coach Lisa Quinn, "or, it’s a non-inclusive, toxic social media trend of rich, white girls not checking their own privilege."

Sort of describes all our regular bots.

Yawn has bought into it but I’m not sure whether she is a believer. She is using her downline to promote and sell the group. They make the sales of C9 that entitles the buyer to join free but of course Yawn gets a cut of any downline sales. I suppose she is not committing any FL crimes as such but if she plans to charge a subscription for her side hustle then FL may have an issue with her using their products.
Although with 29 group members, most of whom are downlines or bots I very much doubt she will make any inroad to her current debt.
If I was Mr Yawn I would be pissed off having to work so hard while she prances around spouting shit about orbs and luck stuff. Their dog food bill alone is probably eye watering. Although he does appear to have stopped her buying endless tat.

Lisa Quinn Coaching | Coaching for Organisations and Individuals

https://www.lisaquinncoaching.co.uk/

Spongebobette · 04/09/2024 09:08

Actually I’m finding it hilarious - Yawn is thanking HER mentor who helped her come up with the idea - her mentor has taken money from her and told her to ‘go with her gut’, calling it ‘being intuitively led’ which basically meant to Yawn - set up a group where you can talk about yourself and get loads of admiration from other women. It will never be an actual business but it’s going to keep her happy as she has a project and her mentor is laughing all the way to the bank

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Angrymum22 · 04/09/2024 09:19

SnoogyWoo · 04/09/2024 09:04

I had a look at yawns mentor and I was expecting some big numbers to get coached by her, thinking how could yawn afford that. Turns out she’s rather low rent at £27 a month 🤣 they all just operate in the gutter don’t they.

I think that the whole reading your personality thing that she does is a bit suspect. In the normal working environment it’s known as appraisal and most of us are capable of giving constructive criticism when asked.
Be far cheaper to ask your mum or a friend what you are doing wrong.

Her and her sister were obviously long term MLM failures who realised that they could make slightly more money spouting bullshit to bots whose brains had already been boiled. They also do spiritualist readings, having discovered their “gift”. We all know that this group of scammers have been around a lot longer than MLMs. Combining manifesting with the spirit world is genius.

I wonder how long before Yawn realises her “6th sense”, the discovery of orbs is a bit of a hint. By Christmas I’m betting she has a crystal ball and has gone full psychic or should that be psycho.

SnoogyWoo · 04/09/2024 09:46

Fierce is now a Witch 🤣

Angrymum22 · 04/09/2024 09:46

Oh and from a scientific point of view, orbs are just particles of dust that reflect light as they drift past the lens of your camera.