Universal Credit Managed Migration - thread 2

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Not claiming any special knowledge myself (apart from am about to migrate in next couple of months!), but wanted to keep this going - will post link to the original thread next -) as it seemed to be helping and calming so many people.
Thanks for all valuable contributions everyone.

I can't see that this will be an issue for you. If you apply for UC on the 7th May as you are planning to do, then your assessment period for each UC payment will be 7th of one month to the 6th of the following month. So 7th May - 6th June will be your first assessment period, with your UC payment going into your bank account on the 13th June. Your next assessment period will be 7th June - 6th July, and so on.

As your wages are paid on the 28th of each month, even if a bank holiday or a weekend causes them to be paid a day or two early (or late), this would still fall inside your usual assessment period. There won't be a time where you will have two paydays inside of one assessment period based on the above details.

Mine needs to be done by Friday 3rd so was going to do but I'll leave it until Friday now I think. It's dropped on a funny time for assesment.

And we are payed last day of each month but get it earlier on bank holidays.

Apologies, I got you mixed up with Symposium when I used the dates.

There is a rule in place whereby, if you know that you are going to receive 2 paydays in one assessment period due to an early payment, UC can set aside that payment into your next assessment period. However, the onus is on you to let them know when it is going to happen, as the system will simply lump everything together otherwise. You will need to put a note in your online journal to let them know during the assessment period when you know this will happen, and they can then manually move it to the following assessment period.

Thanks so much you have been very helpful.

From comments above it sounds like there a different website for applying if you've had a migration notice to ensure you get TP? I'm panicking now as I couldn't find the migration letter (which came a few weeks ago) so just applied via the normal UC website - does this mean I won't get TP?

No, there’s no different website.

@thisfilmisboring123 this is the post that made me think there might be? And then people discussing TP reference numbers, which I don't know anything about! I'm worried as I have a disabled child but the element for that is much lower on UC than TC so was hoping we would get TP.

This is the URL I was given on my letter: www.gov.uk/dwp/move-to-uc

As HMRC have the details of everyone to whom they have sent a migration letter, I'm certain that their system simply cross-references your details with the migration letter database when you apply for UC and applies transitional protection accordingly.

I did exactly the same I put the letter aside then time was running out so I'm not 100% sure if I went through the right website infact I don't think I did because like you put the letter on the to do later pile then when I came to do the claim couldn't find where to enter my transitional and husband transitional codes so we get the protection. I hope it all links as another poster kindly informed me that they didn't enter a code but was given the 12 months protection so hopefully will be the same for you.

Hi there. Wondering if anyone has been in a similar position. I work for an agency on a long term position in a school which means I am term time only. Which means I only get paid during term time. No money during school holidays. How do I work this out through universal credit? 😩

Thank you for the advice swizzel

You will get the full entitlement of your UC but you might have a job centre appointment to explain the lack of wages for the school holidays.

I've posted this as it's own thread but then realised I should just have asked on here instead!

I'm in the process of moving from Tax Credits to Universal Credit. Under TC my child (who gets DLA) also gets a disabled child premium. The UC equivalent "disabled child element" is nearly £200/month less than the TC premium. I am self employed and have declared myself as a carer to UC even though I don't claim CA, to make sure I'm not hit with the MIF so this means I'll be entitled to the Carer Element which didn't exist under TC.

So, I've done a manual calculation which works out as almost exactly the same as I got under TC due to me now being entitled to the Carer Element - but I've read that TP is based on an "indicative amount" made up of equivalent elements paid by TC and that the Carer Element is not taken into account when calculating TP because there isn't an equivalent element on TC. This link seems to say I'll get £177 in TP due to the difference in disabled child element. But will that be wiped out by the fact I'll now get the £198 Carer Element? If not, does that mean I'll actually be better off on UC 🤯

Transitional Protection is so confusing! I read up on it a lot when I was in the process of migrating over from TC to UC, and it's about as clear as mud if you're trying to see how it applies to specific circumstances.

My recommendation would be to try asking your question here: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/benefits-tax-credits There are a few very knowledgable regular posters on that forum, who will hopefully be able to answer your query and explain the ins and outs of how TP works.

PS - I love your user name!

Yeah my TP was wiped out by my wages. Which hadn't changed. Fab.

Well my 5 week wait is over! It’s been a long slog as we received TC weekly before but we had our first UC payment. It’s roughly equal to what we were getting with TC, give or take a tenner i think.

For those asking, you defo do not need to put in the migration reference number, mine knew as i have received a small amount of transitional protection (£16 if i remember correctly).

It felt terrifying at the start especially as my DH is self employed but once getting through it all I can say it has been surprisingly okay.

Thank you so much for the update i am one of the people worried about the migration reference so it's good news to know it's automatically added 😊

Our 5 week wait is nearly over too !

We didnt use any migration reference either. Just a code to like mine and DHs accounts

Has anyone else had issues with council tax since migrating over?

I migrated in November 2023, and in February of this year I received a letter saying thank you for applying for local council tax support, and we can confirm you are eligible ( I never even applied as far as I was aware). I then received a letter saying I was getting help and my payments were significantly reduced (significantly!).

Two months later I have had a letter to say my application has been cancelled, I am now liable to pay council tax as usual and payments start from the 1st June.

Absolutely no acknowledgement of the error they made, and the huge impact of this type of error on houses of local income. After mortgage my council tax is my 2nd biggest bill. Through no fault of my own my payments are now being paid over 10 months and not 12 as well.

I know 2 other colleagues have had this issue who live in my area, so not just an individual error. :(

I'm not sure what error has occurred but once you claim Universal credit, the local authority look at your Uc award and how much you are getting to decide your council tax support so council tax support often does go down. The fact that other people are receiving less as well may not be that an error has occurred just that their UC awards mean they don't get as much Council tax support anymore ?
When i do benefit calculations at work and identify that someone can claim UC, their council tax support reduces significantly for what it would be if they aren't currently claiming UC.

I've managed to fill out my application , accept commitments and verify my identity . My husband has done his application and we've linked accounts . Had a problem with the identity page, it just wouldn't accept his NI number and then he got logged out. He's had to go to work now but I'm panicking that this will be a problem. Is it enough that we've submitted the claim before our 9th May deadline?

Well, I claimed last week on May 1st. No work commitments as I'm a carer. Got told I needed a telephone appointment to verify my identity instead of uploading it (no idea why as I have all the ID documents they asked for online when applying, plus a government gateway account). Then at the telephone appointment today they said actually I'll need a face to face appointment, at my local jobcentre. They wanted to identify me using some database and asking questions about my postcode from 15 years ago and the date I first claimed tax credits in 2003 which I just can't understand when I can provide photo ID and bank statements and tax returns, which they haven't even asked to see!

And then when I got the email with the appointment details it's been booked for a jobcentre 25 miles away at 3.30pm. There are 4 closer jobcentres to my house, one of them is less than 4 miles away 😬 And 3.30pm is a tricky time for a parent carer with an autistic child who needs collecting from school at, er, 3.30pm.

I've sent a journal message marked URGENT asking to change it to a time and place that are a bit more reasonable, what are the chances of them agreeing? It's really annoying as I've waited a week already for a pointless telephone appointment and can't apply for an advance until they verify my identity. But I literally cannot be in two places at once!

That's frustrating @SelkieSeal , I hope they will give you a better appointment time. We are having issues too. Husband couldn't verify ID online as the computer just seemed to crash and by the time he was able to log in after work they had already booked him an appointment at the job centre. Quite irritating as I'm sure he could have done it online given another chance. At least it is our nearest one and it's for today which fortunately is his day off! I'm going to go with him as he's generally a bit useless at this stuff, I hope that's allowed?? Also, is it normal to receive notifications to check your journal but when you log in there's nothing new there?

Hi

Uc says 502.76 can't see any transitional protection:(((