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MLM Bot Watch 69 - the gift that keeps on giving all year round!

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BSintolerant · 25/12/2021 18:39

Welcome to place where we dive into the murky depths of Multilevel Marketing (MLM), Network Marketing, Direct Sales, Social Selling (or whatever you want to call those dodgy product-based pyramid schemes) and dredge up the dirty lies bots tell to rope in their victims. (Clue: MLM is never “... an amaaaaaaayyyyyzzzing opportunity that I think you’d be great at, hun!”)

This is where we discuss certain fibbing hun bots who pretend to be entrepreneurs (they’re not, they’re just playing shop) who brag on social media about unlimited wealth, multiple six figure salaries, residual income, willable businesses, or just making a couple of hundred quid in those nooks and crannies of time. The truth is that most people who get roped into these schemes on the back of false promises lose money and often get into debt.

We’re onto bots who are held up by their particular MLM as running outstandingly successful businesses even though they’re bankrupt or are directors of insolvent companies. We know about bots who bought their position high up the pyramid, and those who con people with mindset coaching programmes. We also keep an eye on the plain old Billy Bullshitters who claim to be making six figures and describe themselves as “debt free” even though their accounts on Companies House show a very different story.

Will 2022 be the year of reckoning for MLMs and fibbing bots? Let’s hope so. Grin

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Spongebobette · 13/02/2022 19:36

She’s a bloody show-off and her parents have created a monster

PieonaBarm · 13/02/2022 21:10

Yawn has pontificated about being bullied, mentioning walking through town with her LV bag after parking her Rangey and seeing one of her teenage bullies in their Poundland uniform having a fag. Isn't their a phrase about being nice to people on your way up as you might see them again on the way back down?

Spongebobette · 13/02/2022 21:24

Well,

  1. That did not happen
  2. She was the bully at school
PieonaBarm · 13/02/2022 21:34

There's a twitter feed called "didn't happen of the year" might submit it to that!

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 13/02/2022 21:44

Between her story about the fictional person who asked her why she wasn't paying to sandblast her beams, the fictional person who pulled her up on her grammar earlier, and the fictional Valentine's Day card, she's used the words bitch, chav, Karen and nause. I think we all know who the bully is.

Ladiva1971 · 13/02/2022 22:49

I was bullied at school by 1 particular girl, but I left school in1988, I put it all behind me and I moved on with my life. I moved to Spain in 1991 was there for 9 years and had 2 children I returned to the UK in the year 2000 I enrolled college to get my NVQ lvl2 in plumbing. I worked in that industry for 14 years before leaving for medical reasons. I have worked for a well known German Supermarket for the last 8 years. Since I left school in 1988 I don't think I have once even thought about the girl that bullied me. However Yawn seems obsessed by these people she was sent that card about 27 years ago and she is still worrying about it??? She is nuts.

BSintolerant · 14/02/2022 00:03

There’s a name for this kind of behaviour: virtuous victim signalling. It’s a well-known tactic used by so-called business coaches and MLM bots with over-inflated opinions of themselves in order to rope people into their scams. Here’s a very interesting article on this dishonest tactic:

www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/why-you-should-never-trust-a-business-coach-who-uses-virtuous-victim-signaling/?fbclid=IwAR1YWfJbIgzVe25W406n7wz7e9ZgUXdyIUZ247Ond7PkIuUfG1dDN5muGk8

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Ladiva1971 · 14/02/2022 00:41

Wow BSintolerant That is a very interesting article, these people are unable to take negative criticism and just call it bullying. I paint in my spare time and post on art pages on FB. If some one doesn't like my art or style that's their opinion, I would never consider them to be bullies. The same way we do not all like the same same music I do not expect everyone to like my art work. But these people just cannot take any negative comments on anything they post online in public forums. I believe the person that commented on her beams said it was a nice job, she replied she didn't want the mess in the house but on her post she said she did it herself to save money. She is a total narcissist and I cannot wait for her bubble to burst.

Spongebobette · 14/02/2022 07:27

Don’t forget her nickname on here is due to her OTT reaction to a minor sleight - she’d been posting ad nauseam about her house and ‘renovations’ and someone replied ‘yawn’ to one of the posts - well she went nuclear. Made a huge fuss about being bullied, contacted the woman’s employers, had a whole anti bullying theme going on for a while including claiming to have been invited to go into a school to talk about her experience of beating the bullied

One tiny comment, which she could have ignored, shrugged off or laughed at, was turned into a crusade

Spongebobette · 14/02/2022 07:28

*beating the bullies

BSintolerant · 14/02/2022 09:45

Yawn was previously known as Browbot because of her distinctive eyebrows. I remember when she cried “bully!” because she said she’d lost her eyebrows in a car accident - as referenced in the above article. I also remember what she said about her eyebrows a few weeks later. She responded to someone on FB that only reason she painted in her eyebrows was because she’d over plucked them years ago.

You’ve got to have a good memory to get away with being a lying liar who tells lies.

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YouokHun · 14/02/2022 10:25

Another great article from TLC @BSintolerant. And of course “hashtag be kind” has become the shield held up to repel anything that questions anything they say, however politely the questions are put to them. Any disputing of what they say has got to be quickly converted into an attack to distract followers away from following the doubter’s way of thinking or evidence trail.

I think the difference between someone criticising your artwork @Ladiva1971 and someone questioning someone like Yawn is that Yawn knows that she is in danger of being exposed and somewhere inside herself she knows that to continue to benefit from FLP she has to keep lying and causing difficulty for others. I think that living so inauthentically must have a cost to her at some level. She has to be constantly vigilant, constantly “winning”, constantly playing the role. That’s got to be the real hard graft of the long term “successful” MLM person. No wonder she defends it so viciously. She must know that when she finally tips over the edge it will be hard for her to keep that out of the public eye. She must dread a call from HMRC - the thatch is just a house of cards.

But if someone criticises your art you can accept it as their opinion because it is no comment on your character or your values, because there is no deceit involved in what you do (presuming you’re not forging Rembrandt’s in your back bedroom Ladiva1971 ? Grin

JohnStonesMissus · 14/02/2022 14:31

I'm no expert on money matters but I thought Directors loans could be written off? Will she ever get that phone call from HMRC?

ForensicAccountant · 14/02/2022 15:22

@JohnStonesMissus
I'm no expert on money matters but I thought Directors loans could be written off? Will she ever get that phone call from HMRC?

If they are not paid back within a certain time frame, then tax is payable otherwise directors would just take loans instead of salary and never pay them back.

YouokHun · 14/02/2022 15:34

I’m no expert either @JohnStonesMissus and yes they can be written off I think but I believe having them long term is seen as a benefit so is therefore taxed at between 25-32.5% (depending on structure and when the loan was taken out). I’m sure others have much more knowledge than me. All the same, I can’t help feeling this is a bad idea when bots are seeing their prospects dwindle but I expect there’s an iffy firm of accountants based in a midlands spa town who could explain to me (very slowly, using simple sentences ideally) just how to keep a £250k problem at arms length on an ongoing basis! I know it’s not as straight forward as getting a call from HMRC. This was quite a clear sum up about DLs for anyone interested. www.companydebt.com/faqs/overdrawn-directors-loan/

YouokHun · 14/02/2022 15:41

ForensicAccountant sounds like you know and if your name is anything to go by your services might be usefully employed at the above mentioned accountants based in a midlands spa town!

JohnStonesMissus · 14/02/2022 15:55

@dickiedavisthunderthighs

Between her story about the fictional person who asked her why she wasn't paying to sandblast her beams, the fictional person who pulled her up on her grammar earlier, and the fictional Valentine's Day card, she's used the words bitch, chav, Karen and nause. I think we all know who the bully is.
Yep, total fiction..no one asked her about her sandblasting her beams she just makes this shit up...
JohnStonesMissus · 14/02/2022 15:56

[quote YouokHun]I’m no expert either @JohnStonesMissus and yes they can be written off I think but I believe having them long term is seen as a benefit so is therefore taxed at between 25-32.5% (depending on structure and when the loan was taken out). I’m sure others have much more knowledge than me. All the same, I can’t help feeling this is a bad idea when bots are seeing their prospects dwindle but I expect there’s an iffy firm of accountants based in a midlands spa town who could explain to me (very slowly, using simple sentences ideally) just how to keep a £250k problem at arms length on an ongoing basis! I know it’s not as straight forward as getting a call from HMRC. This was quite a clear sum up about DLs for anyone interested. www.companydebt.com/faqs/overdrawn-directors-loan/[/quote]
Thanks for that very useful, I don't know how she sleeps at night with that huge amount hanging over her..

fromdownwest · 15/02/2022 10:34

Castle's latest insta reel is quite something.
Bascially saying she made her first million!
Not sure I would associate her with the word consistent!

JohnStonesMissus · 15/02/2022 13:25

I think Castle's two bonus cheques for £400,000 each certainly helped.....

acatcalledjohn · 15/02/2022 16:45

@swampytiggaa I've only just seen your mention of Nutonic. They are MLM and had a hugely underwhelming launch either in 2020 or 2021.

swampytiggaa · 15/02/2022 17:18

[quote acatcalledjohn]@swampytiggaa I've only just seen your mention of Nutonic. They are MLM and had a hugely underwhelming launch either in 2020 or 2021. [/quote]
Thought so. She’s now pushing skincare I think alongside her wax melts etc

CloseYourEyesAndSee · 15/02/2022 19:11

Broke's post about the newest crypto scam he's joining ...

You become part of rhe Blockchain and earn from the Blockchain with Nodes! Simple!

Jesus. Anyone stupid enough to follow him deserves to lost their money now.

fromdownwest · 15/02/2022 19:21

Whats with the anti 'bullying' theme with FL bots at the minute?

Spongebobette · 15/02/2022 21:13

Oh it’s a theme that comes around regularly