Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Money matters

Find financial and money-saving discussions including debt and pension chat on our Money forum. If you're looking for ways to make your money to go further, sign up to our Moneysaver emails here.

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

MLM Bot Watch 39 - After taking a year off we are back with no cheque, no hope, but new products!

979 replies

Whiterangey · 09/05/2018 00:13

The first 5 people who comment 'Botshite' win a free pampering session!

OP posts:
Thread gallery
23
Whiterangey · 25/05/2018 02:38

Also, you have brand new Forever Bot who is going to be a billionaire as long as she keeps up with her mindset training, her vision board, and working hard.

She's not selling anything, goes to Upline, Upline tells her to make a post about a pamper evening. That doesn't work. Upline tells her to work harder and book a stall at a fete, Bot doesn't make her stall money back.

Bot isn't selling, can't afford to buy the products to keep her position and hasn't managed to recruit anyone. None of her friends respond to her posts and everyone at the school gates and on facebook is avoiding her. Upline is too busy desperately recruiting new people and can't be bothered with Bot anymore as after she first joined she hasn't made Upline any money. Upline stops responding to Bot's PM's. Bot is sad, frustrated and feels like she has failed.

Bot has an idea, Bot turns to google, maybe types in 'not making money in Forever Living' The second result is the Daily Mail 'Can you really earn £350,000 a year selling aloe vera?' article. Bot recognises that the Daily Mail is an esteemed publication full of truth and reads the story.

"Could this shining example of journalism in print form be wrong?" thinks Bot. Bot googles some more, different search terms, finding bad things until she happens upon a blog post laying out the whole scheme and that she never had a chance of making money. Bot doesn't feel so good, Bot quietly removes all things Forever Living from facebook and never mentions it again. Bot's friends are just grateful they have Bot back as a friend.

In that scenario Bot was still a victim, she still lost money, but likely got out sooner than she otherwise would have done. Also less likely to jump into another MLM and be a bot elsewhere.

This is also why the blogs and facebook pages and groups work nicely together. Blogs always rank high on google as long as words and phrases match what someone is likely to search for, and facebook is good for friends sharing stuff and someone seeing it and learning from it.

Uplines have a far better chance of keeping a bot and using cult like tactics to get them to stay in if they live nearby. A great example is the weekly 'presentations' held by Uber, Yawn, et al. You can't weekly present a nice cult like tactic or 27 when your victim lives in a different part of the country. Video conferencing helps, but it's nothing like whipping a crowd, however small, into a frenzy.

The bad thing about that is that there are a lot less people in a small area of the country with a higher than average number of top uplines than in the rest of the country. The small area will have been saturated already with new bots failing instantly while you are running out of people to recruit.

The correct terminology for the long term forecast for the sustainability of doing this is 'It's going to go tits up'. Look at @Toobusytowee blog post for proof of that.

OP posts:
SSDGM · 25/05/2018 04:08

Wig’s daughter has got herself involved in FM world. She’s 16. Wig would join her but she’s in “product retirement” - looks like Monat didn’t set the world on fire for her as promised.

DoraExplorer99 · 25/05/2018 07:30

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BSintolerant · 25/05/2018 09:03

Messiah's house will be neither, Dora. It's a manor from heaven. Grin

I'm here all week folks!

Ladiva1971 · 25/05/2018 11:49

Manor from heaven...……...OMG Grin

cozietoesie · 25/05/2018 12:30

Even for you, BS........Grin

BSintolerant · 25/05/2018 15:29

Let's hope his garden isn't like the garden of Eden with apple trees, naked people running around, and a troublesome snake. The Messiah will need a flaming sword to smite the grass - a mere lawnmower simply won't cut it.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 25/05/2018 15:44

He could bring down a plague of locusts. I hear that keeps the vegetation in check.

CurlsandCurves · 25/05/2018 16:06

@BSintolerant 🤣🤣🤣

cozietoesie · 25/05/2018 16:21

BS - go for an afternoon nap! Grin White - that's all very sad.

DoraExplorer99 · 25/05/2018 19:17

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Norma27 · 25/05/2018 19:19

I can still see castle’s fb profile dora

BSintolerant · 25/05/2018 20:44

Twenty - he'd try to recruit the locusts into his downline. The Messiah's got no sense of shame.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 25/05/2018 21:04

But BS, as he is master of every creature that walks the earth, swims the seas and flies the skies, surely he doesn't need to recruit them?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 25/05/2018 21:11

Looks like he gone done a live. Anyone listened in?

YouOKHun · 25/05/2018 21:15

I listened to the first minute of the Live but Messiah’s faux transatlantic with a hint of Bristol drawl just makes me want to heave (also the content of what he’s saying). The man is a narcissist.

Spongebobette · 25/05/2018 21:18

Briefly. He is insane

Whiterangey · 25/05/2018 21:33

Yawn's latest bot, the new mum and partner to string on a stick, or stick on a string, whatever way you look at it, has been influenced by her.

She's done a forever facemask and posted the results.

Basically the facemask has temporarily hydrated her skin.

Firstly she's said that she hasn't photoshopped the photo, if you need to state that then you have.

She claims it has gotten rid of the wrinkles under her eyes, if your skin is dehydrated and gets a shot of moisture lines will temporality disappear. She is far too young to have serious lines under her eyes although it is clear she likes the sun and she washed her face with a bar of soap before she put the mask on, so her skin will have been dry beforehand.

The after photo has apparently stripped her tan, and also lightened her eyes and all of the moles on her face.

She has been fully botted, I hope she sees the light soon.

OP posts:
BSintolerant · 25/05/2018 22:04

Twenty, you're right: He doesn't need to recruit them.

A little bot told me that his first Success Day didn't live up to its name due to all manner of flies, lice, a plague of frogs and to top it off, a plague of locusts ate the venue and the bots got caught in a hailstorm.

The lengths some people go for a mint-choc milkshake.

Whiterangey · 25/05/2018 22:22

I'm sorry, i'm not going to read Messiah posts here.

I'll wait for the book to come out.

OP posts:
Twentytwentyhindsight · 25/05/2018 22:30

First instalment's going to be called Genesis, apparently.

PopPopRadio · 25/05/2018 23:01

Thanks TooBusy. It's a great article and eliminating any bot argument points makes it even stronger.

SSDGM · 25/05/2018 23:05

Just a thought... Broke’s “system” - you know, his book of names and notes about potential “customers” that he uses... As a self employed sole trader because I’m sure he’s correctly registered with the tax man - won’t he be subject to the new GDPR regarding personal details? What if someone gets his notepad? Could he be prosecuted?

What about bots with paper records of their victims customers? Won’t they have to be under lock and key?

Just a thought..

Paddy1234 · 25/05/2018 23:24

Well that was four minutes of my life I won't get back listening to The Messiah. Feeling momentarily sorry for the pregnant gf until I realised that she is as shameful as he is #met through the scam

CodLiverOil556 · 26/05/2018 01:06

Can someone PM me Messiah and broke? They are the only 2 I can't work out