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MLM Bot Watch 39 - After taking a year off we are back with no cheque, no hope, but new products!

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Whiterangey · 09/05/2018 00:13

The first 5 people who comment 'Botshite' win a free pampering session!

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miffytherabbit1974 · 09/05/2018 22:54

Thank you to the peeps who sent me the info I requested earlier in this post. Much appreciated.

Whiterangey · 10/05/2018 00:07

In the year ended December 2016 in the UK, sales decreased by 25% and new business owners decreased by 52%. That is from reports filed by FLP UK at companies house.

The companies gross profit margin decreased by 67% from 2015.

2016 was a bumper year for cheques, it was the year when every bot walked across that stage with huge cheques with many zeroes on them. The 2016 cheques were based on how the bots did in 2015, which was the real bumper year for bots.

The cheques for 2017 were more modest and most top bots had drastic reductions in amounts. Dearest Yawn dropped from a $150k cheques in 2016 to a $50k cheque in 2017. Not sure what she got his year, I must be getting old as I don't recall seeing her cheque, I must have missed it, could someone let me know how much Yawn's cheque was this year? (This will never get oldGrin)

Given the massacre that occurred with the UK cheques this year i'm guessing that in 2017 FLP UK did even worse. Last years accounts won't be submitted and online until October though.

It is stated that the 2016 decline was driven by a reduction in sign ups. Sales 'only' declined by 25% so it was the lack of sign ups that cause the drop in money.

As we know from posters here, new sign ups are one of the key things to getting a decent cheque and doing well over the year, so that makes sense.

If we look at the cheques for 2018, please please can someone PM me how much Yawn got, you know what she is like, so humble, so she's not bragging, then signups in 2017 are going to be even worse than in 2016. This will lead to even more of a decline in profits for FLP UK for 2017.

We do not live in the biggest country in the world, we do not have the biggest population. If we start talking about upside down triangles then there are only so many people in the UK that can be signed up.

Out of those who may be the type to sign up, so many have already signed up and dropped out. I looked at 20 people that Yawn had listed last year, I think it was her top twenty or something like that, there were only like 5 who were still active with FLP. The other 15 are gone from FLP for good.

Not to mention the UK has a pretty sweet anti-MLM movement.

The financials for 2015, which was the boom year for FLP UK are as follows. Sales grew by 81% and new business owners grew by 54%. The directors expected this to grow in 2016, which of course it didn't, it went down the toilet.

This is also evident in the country rankings. UK was number 1 in 2016 at the rally, dropping to 2 in 2017, and now we are 6.

FLP UK seemed to think that the huge growth in 2015 was down to weight management products, which may have played a small part in it.

Since 2015 there has been huge growth in other weight loss MLM's, weight loss coffees being the biggest. Are you going to spend over £100 on a C9 where you have to restrict your intake and drink yucky shakes, or spend a lot less on a box of coffee where you can lose weight while eating the same foods you ate before?

Given that everyone saw profits dropped when new sign ups decreased i'm guessing that is why we are seeing the huge push for new signups that we are seeing now.

Which is stupid, as if you sign them all up now, where are you going to find new blood for the rest of the year?

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cozietoesie · 10/05/2018 00:13

Sales 'only' declined by 25%??? Grin

Whiterangey · 10/05/2018 00:19

Not upside down triangles, upside down funnels LOL

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2018 00:36

Spot on White, it's all about the recruiting, the company admits as much in the first couple of lines of their report.

What the FLP UK accounts to 31 December 2016 don't tell us is how many actual business owners left. A drop of 52% in new recruits is massive, but we are still none the wiser as to how many there were year on year. It would be possible for there to be fewer new recruits than the previous year, but the overall number of bots to still grow...

Despite those figures not being out there, the available evidence points to what many have said recently: the pool of potential victims has shrunk to the extent that the leavers are not being replaced with new blood- the basic requirement for the scheme to just totter along.

In fact, the pool of potential recruits is shrinking at an accelerating rate, even as an increasing number of bots are cutting their losses.

The point of no return is well passed, no matter how hard they push the pamper parties. They may as well give up now and save themselves the extra work for which they will get no return, but that would go against years of the ridiculous 'mindset training'. TBH, they'd actually do just as well if they did click their heels three times and keep repeating 'I will succeed', for all the good it's going to do them.

Whiterangey · 10/05/2018 00:43

What I can't get my head around is that in MLM's you get your profit from sales, totally from sales, not from recruiting, you don't have to recruit, you can just make sales and make your fortune from that.

So why have FLP UK stated that their decrease in profit in 2015 was because of less people signing up? Compared to the lack of sign ups the decrease in sales wasn't as bad, so why are they concentrating on the lack of sign ups?

New sign ups to an MLM are most definitely 100% not needed to succeed in an MLM, so why does the decrease in signups appear to affect the profits of the company?

I thought having people sign up under you was more something you did to help people, not to make more money.

I'm all very much confused, maybe I should take a holiday somewhere. I've heard Giza in Egypt is nice this time of year.

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cozietoesie · 10/05/2018 00:49

Giza?? Grin

Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2018 00:51

Quite, White, it is most puzzling that something that is anything but a pyramid scheme should be subject to what would appear to be the same behaviour and display the same characteristics.

Most puzzling- I'm just sorry none of the huns come on here to enlighten us anymore...

Ladiva1971 · 10/05/2018 01:00

Check out Uber bots on fire promo and look at the first person to comment.........like she don't know what it is...............

Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2018 01:09

That's hilarious Ladiva!

"Can you tell me more please?", when she's plugging the same shite with the same copy & pasted post.

I really do smell the desperation.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2018 01:15

And Uber does the whole "PM'd you hun"!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2018 01:22

But seeing that this is a totally legit non-pointy square-based business, it was clearly an oversight by Uber, who failed to recognise on of her business partners, as well as a genuine lapse by her downline, who had completely forgotten what it was she was flogging.

In a legit businesses, such as is undoubtedly the case for FLP, there is no need for anyone to make false representations to give the impression of interest when there is none, so it was clearly an innocent train of unintended lapses.

Whiterangey · 10/05/2018 01:53

That is so funny, do they think people won't notice?

It reeks of desperation, I guess mortgages are in danger of not being paid.

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2018 02:02

How have the mighty fallen.

International jet setting Uber bot reduced to the antics of the desperate likes of Broke...

Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2018 02:05

Dallas truly was the gift that keeps giving.

Norma27 · 10/05/2018 06:42

My Herbalife bot is a mutual ‘friend’ with Uber’s messenger. All women empowering each other dontcha know.
Real desperation to get your friends/downline to fake interest.
Can’t wait to watch forever crumble.

SSDGM · 10/05/2018 07:05

Smile Enhance Network has 3 weeks to submit accounts or it will be struck off. NOT LAUGHING.

Spongebobette · 10/05/2018 07:29

What is Smile Enhance Network?

Ladiva1971 · 10/05/2018 07:32

Toothpaste crap I think Grin

BSintolerant · 10/05/2018 07:47

Dallas truly was the gift that keeps giving.

It didn't give much to that bot who didn't get a big plastic cheque this year.

TrippleFlappyDiamondSparrow · 10/05/2018 08:13

Im chuckling at the Forever Living reps asking Uber for more information on her Forever Livinf products. 🤔😂

Whiterangey · 10/05/2018 08:32

I'd never heard of Smile Enhance Network, which is not a network on companies house, it's a limited.

Wow! Just from the little i've seen I can't get my head around it all. She was given a nope from Dragon's Den yet the only reference on the whole internet to her having been on Dragon's Den is from her.

The whole thing surrounding her and her 'company' is just one whole lot of crazy.

Including the tanning gel with the speeling mistakes all over it.

I get buying something wholesale and slapping your own labels on it and selling it, but at least spel the information on the label properly.

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Paddy1234 · 10/05/2018 08:40

I am chuckling away as well.
Can anyone PM me please with the name of home school bot - I am aware of all the others but that one, I just cannot work out!

CurlsandCurves · 10/05/2018 09:15

Omg it’s just so staged! ‘Ooh, that looks interesting, what is it?’ ‘I’m very interested, can you message me?’ Reminded me of Marjorie and Joan from Victoria Wood...

Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2018 09:38

Messiah today:

"Envisage the happiness that's about to radiate across the globe... As you realise that the new dawn of golden TS-Life light is about to shine on the darkest places..."

I'm beginning to suspect he follows this thread and is deliberately trying to up the stakes with his rantings for our entertainment.

His devoted followers are, however, lapping it up. IT'S A CRAPPY GENERIC MINT CHOCOLATE SHAKE WITH A NEW LABEL FFS!