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MLM Bot Watch 39 - After taking a year off we are back with no cheque, no hope, but new products!

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Whiterangey · 09/05/2018 00:13

The first 5 people who comment 'Botshite' win a free pampering session!

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 11/05/2018 10:17

PMSL at the bot ranks in Messiah's comp plan - 'Imperial Grand Master'!

BangingOn · 11/05/2018 10:31

Where was the comp plan, on a Live?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 11/05/2018 10:36

Yes, it's been posted into Messiah's profile.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 11/05/2018 10:37

*onto

Paddy1234 · 11/05/2018 11:05

Haha just seen the ONE PowerPoint slide. I am sure the other slides with be the photos of her with her cheque from Dallas. Only 11 months to go before the next big cheque

Paddy1234 · 11/05/2018 11:08

Ooooh there is a success day tomorrow in London - we may have to eat humble pie when we see photos of the turnout #O2 centre I presume is booked

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SteelyEyes · 11/05/2018 11:19

The huns seem to be getting very excited about this one!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 11/05/2018 11:19

Yes, a scam of bots will be descending on the London Palladium for a 'Mastering Success' event (£30 a head, lunch not included).

I am very tempted to prime my botted exOH with some searching questions regarding the 'success' in evidence in Dallas, but it would not go well.

Spongebobette · 11/05/2018 11:30

Can someone explain the amazing comp plan for Messiah’s new MLM?
I cannot bear to listen to his voice

BangingOn · 11/05/2018 12:04

I’ve just listened to the Live and made some notes, give me 5 mins to get my head around it and I will post a summary of the plan as I understand it (although I’m not a comp plan expert and not familiar with all of the lingo).

Spongebobette · 11/05/2018 12:07

I’m very grateful!

BangingOn · 11/05/2018 12:17

Ok, I’m not certain I have this right as I’m not yet fluent in Bot, so please correct my mistakes. From what I can make out, it works like this:

Bots buy at Wholesale price (if they make use of replicated website, training and promotional materials- no mention of cost for those) and sell at Retail which is a minimum of 50% mark up.

Retail Boost- if your customer buys weekly from your website then the margin is boosted to 70%

The rankings are listed below, you need to introduce two people (units) to qualify as a Bright Star and become a Leader. In brackets after each are the lesser volume units you need to achieve each month and the leadership reward percentage you receive. (What is a Lesser Volume Unit? Is that one mint choc shake?)

New Star
Bright Star
Director (500 units 10%)
Pro Director (1500 units 11%)
Executive (3000 units 12%)
Prime Executive (5000 units 13%)
Commodore (10,000 units 14%)
Admiral (15,000 units 15%)
Ambassador (30,000 units 16%)
Master (50,000 units 17%)
Grandmaster (100,000 units 18%)
Pro Grandmaster (150,000 units 19%)
Prime Grandmaster (300,000 units 20%)
Supreme Grandmaster (500,000 units 21%)
Imperial Grandmaster (1,000,000 units 22%)

Stretch Bonus
Everyone’s first 500 volume earnings each month will be stretched by 120%

Team Support Bonus
Help someone in your downline recruit and you get 10% bonus from that order
Help support your primary team members and their leadership reward will be matched by up to 55%, up to 50% for secondary team members
Help your primaries get their first sales and you get up to 40% of that order as a bonus

Customer Loyalty Bonus
Discounts, loyalty scheme, ‘looked after by TS Life’

Access for as little as £5, no required purchase, no monthly fees.

Mrs Messiah has declared herself useless as she’s pregnant, flying the flag for expectant working mothers everywhere. There was another 8 minutes after the comp plan reveal but I couldn’t bring myself to watch any more.

Spongebobette · 11/05/2018 12:21

Oh. my. GOD

those titles!!! Ha haaa!!!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 11/05/2018 12:22

Thanks for taking one for the team @BangingOn.

Spongebobette · 11/05/2018 12:28

OK then, as we all know, MLMs are never about the product so let’s ignore that

Where’s the income stream for Messiah?

BangingOn · 11/05/2018 12:30

I feel dirty now, like I need to cleanse myself of MLM and then have a lie down in a darkened room.

I love the titles though, surely he is actively taking the piss?

I can only assume that the wholesale price is already a 50% mark up on his cost and that he plans on a heavy income stream from promotional materials, training, those awful clothes he shared previously etc.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 11/05/2018 12:33

Messiah's own title has yet to be revealed - can't wait for that!

Whiterangey · 11/05/2018 12:37

Sod having a 'Mastering Success' day at the London Palladium. Any seat in a west end theatre is not the most comfortable thing in the world. If you are over 5ft then you won't have enough leg room. Not usually a problem when you are there to see a show, you get engrossed in the show and don't realise that your body is crammed into a space more suited to a toddler.

Sitting there for hours for some bullshit success day that you are only going to because business is non existent and you just know that this is going to be the success day that will turn things around for you.

All it is going to do is make you walk like a cowboy afterwards until the blood flow returns to your lower limbs.

I've just had a look and you can get a ticket for the dress circle at the Adelphi to watch Kinky Boots for tomorrow's matinee for £20, it's a good show. There are also plenty of other shows you can get late great priced tickets for. Although don't see Motown the musical, i've heard from friends who have seen it that it is a bit crap. Too many songs so they only sing a bit of each song and stop the song just as you are getting into it.

My heart hurts that people are willing to pay good money to sit in a theatre for hours and not be watching a play or a show but instead sit listening to MLM bullshit.

If buildings could weep The Palladium would be sobbing it's heart out tomorrow.

I just looked and it seats just over 2000, so they aren't expecting a lot of people compared to how many FBO's they have.

That will be a very expensive day. £30 a ticket, then you have to get there. Driving into London and then parking is not easy and parking certainly isn't cheap if you can find somewhere. Theatre drinks are very expensive, as are snacks. The success day lasts for 6 hours and you do get a lunch break. Food is more expensive in London so it will be McDonalds or similar for lunch.

In the morning they are starting the day with a talk from the head of the UK. Then you have bloodsucker spewing her bullshit. Then there is the chairman's bonus recognition, so that will take 3 minutes, and then something called 'How i've increased my business so far in 2018' by a bot i've never heard of. She certainly doesn't have bot name here.

She went to Dallas, but appears to have paid for herself. She recently posted a C9 and F.I.T photo which showed her displaying 21 boxes of them on her stairs. About £100 each, so that is over £2k worth, I guess you have to get your promotions any way you can.

Her printer 'gave up the ghost' yesterday, instead of marching to the nearest Argos and getting a new one, she asked to borrow one and then ended up going to the library. New printers are definitely in the price range of someone earning gazillions per month.

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MLMsuperfan · 11/05/2018 13:02

OK so choc shakes sold weekly have a margin of 70% for the retailing bot. There doesn't include margin for further retailer bonuses ('stretch bonus'), upline commissions ('team support bonus', 'leadership rewards') or corporate profits.

So let's assume those other margins are a further 20% (seems unlikely that the corporate rake would be that low, but nonetheless).

That means the consumer will have to cover 90% margins, that is to say, the product will be retailed at 10x true cost price.

Quite naive envelope calculation. Amazon's gross margins are believed to be about 33%. A mint chocolate meal shake (450g) retails for about £10, suggesting a cost price of about £6.60. The same shake would have to be sold at £66 to cover Messiah's comp plan. And that's the price for weekly recurring orders.

Spongebobette · 11/05/2018 13:17

I reckon the shakes cost a lot less than that. 20p each or something like that

BangingOn · 11/05/2018 13:19

Good summary MLM. I wonder whether there are more hidden costs to signing up as a New Star that haven’t been revealed yet.

BethanyBarleywater · 11/05/2018 14:07

I would now like to be known as Supreme Grandmaster.