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MLM Bot Watch 35 how to lose friends and alienate people with Younique Forever Living Juice Plus Arbonne Crypto currency and tea and coffee MLM cults

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BSintolerant · 19/01/2018 19:04

Thread 34 may be no more;
Thread 35 is quite alive.

Let's make sure it stays that way.

This thread is here to expose the garageful of lies pedalled by multi level marketing (network marketing) schemes, i.e outrageous health claims, unlimited wealth and residual earnings, to name but a few.

#sackthebot

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acatcalledjohn · 18/02/2018 20:12

@ReformedBot

That was quick! Got 200 posts to go on this thread still Wink

acatcalledjohn · 18/02/2018 20:12

(Sorry, WiFi is playing up here)

ReformedBot · 18/02/2018 20:13

Ohhhh I didn't see a thread count! I thought it just stopped at around 32 pages Blush

rainbowfudgee · 18/02/2018 20:40

Just googled Forever Living out of interest. This was on the front page:

www.carefulcash.com/forever-living-a-scam-or-not/

Giving bots reassurance that it's not a scam... you can pay to have a website boosted up the google search results can't you?

Also the FL main website has several spelling mistakes.

cozietoesie · 18/02/2018 20:48

Never mind, Reformed. Smile

BangingOn · 21/02/2018 07:41

I’ve been lurking on these threads on and off since the start and really appreciate the ex-MLM people sharing their stories as well as the excellent work raising awareness of the reality of MLMs.

A high level JP bot who I used to work with and now follow from afar seems to be going down the business inspiration, motivational speaker route now. From what I can see she clams to have 12,000 in her downline yet barely gets any likes on her JP Facebook page, which surprises me as I thought you were supposed to blindly support your upline.

I’ve also noticed that she has downgraded her JP website, which previously had different levels of membership subscription to lifestyle plans and an online shop, both of which have now vanished. She was suggesting a voucher for a ‘30 minute motivational telephone call’ as an ideal Christmas present for friends and family though Hmm

Following a suggestion on here I also checked out her accounts filing with Companies House, I’m not sure how I’m supposed to be reading them but are ‘advances to directors’ the salary she is taking from the business?

acatcalledjohn · 21/02/2018 08:09

Welcome @BangingOn.

It's an advance, so a loan.

1. Overview

A director’s loan is when you (or other close family members) get money from your company that isn’t:

a salary, dividend or expense repayment
money you’ve previously paid into or loaned the company

Records you must keep
You must keep a record of any money you borrow from or pay into the company - this record is usually known as a ‘director’s loan account’.

At the end of your company’s financial year
Include any money you owe the company or the company owes you on the ‘balance sheet’ in your annual accounts.

Interesting link on what director payments should be declared on an annual statement

Come and join us on tread 36!

BangingOn · 21/02/2018 08:27

acat that’s really helpful, thank you. Does that mean that’s she taking a salary as well? It does look like she is actually making money, but not as much as she would have been making in her employed job and she’s “retired” her husband too.

BangingOn · 21/02/2018 08:28

Oops, just realised you’re all on the other thread. Off to that one now.

acatcalledjohn · 21/02/2018 08:29

Well, she doesn't have to declare her salary. However, if she's taking advances from her company

acatcalledjohn · 21/02/2018 08:32

Posted too soon.

If she's taking advances from her company then the question is how much and how regularly. A one off advance to pay for a new car because your car just died a death World be different to a monthly top up to sustain her living beyond her means. She's got to pay it back either way.

BangingOn · 21/02/2018 08:42

I’ve shifted over to the other thread, but the loan is just over £57k and was the same the previous year too.

rainbowfudgee · 28/02/2018 19:19

metroherald24.com/katie-price-starts-surprising-new-business-venture/?adset=Adset+1+F+30&adid=ad009&int=noint&gender=W

This is worrying! Bitcoin adverts all over my facebook again.

sshuga · 06/03/2018 16:36

@goldenkelpie I was in a relationship with a bot (didn't fully comprehend the depth of deception and true failure rate of MLM) for nearly a year. We had a previous relationship going back a very long time before that but were quite serious for the last year i.e: making plans for living the rest of our lives together, and quite happy. However there was one fly in the ointment. He was counting on some mlm or another (he had long term involvement none but had done several others in the past and was discouraged with it and thought the answer was shopping around for a better one. We could be having a lovely time together and next thing he would be talking about some new mlm or some new idea for working the old one, it was clear he was obsessed with feeling that he wasn't doing enough or there must be some better way to work the business. I had never been involved with an mlm or close to anyone who was so I had only the vaguest knowledge about it but my gut instinct told me it was an unsavory way to make money and it seemed clear to me that it entailed a lot more time and energy than it claimed to make anything like al living from it. I am an artist who has managed to earn money for 30 years from my art and while it hasn't been a lot of money and it does require some commitment to doing the work, it doesn't require me to spend loads of time going to meetings with a bunch of people who just exude (to me) a smarmy fake positivity rah rah rah vibe that I could not imagine having to participate in on a regular basis. No thanks I'd rather have a JOB which pays me a paycheck for my time and which I can forget about in my off time. Anyway the point I wanted to make was that some of these bots become so deluded that rather than look at the reality of their time and money put in vs. their earnings, they start blaming those around them who aren't supportive enough. This is what happened with me. Despite my not ever saying anything negative, just refraining form being "encouraging" it became a big enough issue that we had fights over it. eventually I told him of my aversion and that was the beginning of the end. He dumped me not long after.

GoldenKelpie · 06/03/2018 16:48

sshuga, thanks for posting yoyr experience, so sorry it didn't work out for you both but your experience is typical of people who become immersed in the culty aspect of MLM. Their ability to critically evaluate the manipulation and the things they are told gets worn away. Then they become so invested that they cannot bring themselves to change their beliefs. So sad.

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