MLM Bot Watch 27 - The Yazoo iis past iits use by date, but we have a massive #lardon: Tragiicomic cultiic wampum floggiing scamalangadiingdongs liike Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juice

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Still going strong here at bot watch HQ on MN!

Previous thread here

Botwatch on Wordpress and on Facebook

Timeless Vie on Wordpress and on Facebook

Eyespeying's Blog aka #manhun, even if he's been banned by MNHQ

Hommetepreneur on Facebook
www.lazymanandmoney.com/is-every-mlm-a-scam
We have our own regularly returning bots.

Glossary:

Bots: our affectionate name for victims of the MLM racket

MLM: Multi-level Marketing schemes - essentially pyramid schemes that are just legal because you sell a product. Reliant upon constant recruitment despite there not being enough people in the world to go beyond about 12 levels if everyone recruited 6.

Downline/Upline: the people you recruited and those who recruited you (going up and down the pyramid inverted funnel)

Timeless Vie: Parody of MLM schemes (though you might spot one in particular) that also carries out fearless investigative work. Flogging the amazing skinny lard and now carbonated lard. The arsenic is not the evil Victorian stuff. #TeamDannii #gettingalardon

Hommetrepreneur: also excellent parody site focussing on the menz

BotWatch: Rather more serious, keeps an eye on what the Bots are claiming next, particularly in reference to health and income claims. Also fearless.

Inverted Funnel: Timeless Vie is NOT a pyramid - it's an inverted Funnel, OK?

Eyes: Our former member Eyespying who knows LOTS about MLM schemes. He's still our very own #manhun.

Scientific guidelines for the term 'adaptogen'

The conclusion makes for some interesting reading.

That link doesn't work for me

Mind you, I don't think 'adaptogen' will ever be part of my active vocabulary

"he managed to tactfully dodge that one by stating he couldn't recommend something that wasn't recommended in NICE guidelines"

I really like this response, it's one that bots would be unable to counter . We should use it more.

Sponge, if you head to Wikipediaa* and then go to footer link 4. It does work that way.

No. They can't really counter it, can they? (I've been trying to think of ways and pretty well failed.)

For anyone wondering if they can reconnect with their bot friends, yes it's possible. I don't think I was ever fully botted though. I mean I was to a certain degree, but I never really lost touch with anyone. I mentioned it to everyone but once they said no, I never mentioned it. If they were interested they could ask me. I was never the person to shove it down their throats. I think a few people have avoided me because of MLM but I've made it very clear to everyone that I'm no longer involved and so many people have actually reconnected with me, where they previously ignored me. I went out with a good friend of mine not long ago and she said 'it's lovely to have you back'. If you have lost touch with a friend, wait it out until they quit and try reconnecting with them. They will be embarrassed that they haven't been someone who earns six figures when they told everyone how amazing their company was and how they were going to earn a fortune. So just reach out and be their friend again. I've had lots of people say the main reason they stopped connecting was because they didn't want to have to fall out with me by giving me their real opinion about what I was doing. I just love being able to see all my friends again without them thinking I'm going to try and sell them something or ask them to join. They're all just my friends again rather than potential customers or prospects. Your friend will still be in there somewhere and you were friends once for a reason so can be the same again.

If your friend is 'successful' and totally botted, I'm afraid you may have lost them for now, because they will be convinced in the company and will also convinced that you are wrong in your opinion. But it won't last so just wait. Good luck with all your friends in the future

Thank you Dora.

Dora, please can I use that last post in my botwatchblog piece on helping friends who are in MLM? I think it might be a nice end to the article.

That's reassuring Dora.

Many thanks, Dora.

....They're all just my friends again rather than potential customers or prospects....

Feel free TooBusy 😊

Well done, Dora. I suspect that there are a good many adherents who are reluctant to leave through........embarrassment, almost. You nailed it in that post.

Well said Dora, thank you

I think you are brave Dora, it must be much easier to keep on keeping on in an MLM because the fear of looking like a failure stops people stopping. If that makes sense.

Perfect sense, Sponge. Sadly.

Although leaving also means admitting, to yourself, that you were taken in and waving goodbye to any false hopes you had of making a fortune. And biting the bullet with regard to any debts you built up. And facing the possible ruin of your friendship circle.

It's not at all easy. You were very brave, Dora.

Well my Herbalife friend has quit her job to set up a fucking wellness studio. At a loss really. Not sure I can help her except be there when it all goes to shit. She is/was the main earner in her family (three kids, mortgage). Words can't express how much I hate this company.

Is she likely to come to you and ask you for an 'investment' into her business?

No, she's well aware of my feelings towards it!

Be very careful, even so. You're likely already worried about the children - and there's more than one way of getting money out of people, I fear.

It's as I feared. BotFriend is beyond help.

Not only is she a Younique Bot, she has now enrolled as a 'wellness advocate' for doTerra to flog essential oils.

Another friend in this particular friendship group - there are six of us who have known each other since primary school - says BotFriend has spent hundreds of £ on one of the pricier enrollment kits.

I fear we are slowly losing her.

I doubt you'll be able to reach her now - and maybe not at all, or not until such time as everything goes seriously pear shaped for her. It's a sadness.

Does she have close family by the way?

Evening/ morning

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Notice no one really says anything about Ann summers. That's mlm as well. I know from experience 😡