MLM Bot Watch 27 - The Yazoo iis past iits use by date, but we have a massive #lardon: Tragiicomic cultiic wampum floggiing scamalangadiingdongs liike Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juice

[acatcalledjohn]

Still going strong here at bot watch HQ on MN!

Previous thread here

Botwatch on Wordpress and on Facebook

Timeless Vie on Wordpress and on Facebook

Eyespeying's Blog aka #manhun, even if he's been banned by MNHQ

Hommetepreneur on Facebook
www.lazymanandmoney.com/is-every-mlm-a-scam
We have our own regularly returning bots.

Glossary:

Bots: our affectionate name for victims of the MLM racket

MLM: Multi-level Marketing schemes - essentially pyramid schemes that are just legal because you sell a product. Reliant upon constant recruitment despite there not being enough people in the world to go beyond about 12 levels if everyone recruited 6.

Downline/Upline: the people you recruited and those who recruited you (going up and down the pyramid inverted funnel)

Timeless Vie: Parody of MLM schemes (though you might spot one in particular) that also carries out fearless investigative work. Flogging the amazing skinny lard and now carbonated lard. The arsenic is not the evil Victorian stuff. #TeamDannii #gettingalardon

Hommetrepreneur: also excellent parody site focussing on the menz

BotWatch: Rather more serious, keeps an eye on what the Bots are claiming next, particularly in reference to health and income claims. Also fearless.

Inverted Funnel: Timeless Vie is NOT a pyramid - it's an inverted Funnel, OK?

Eyes: Our former member Eyespying who knows LOTS about MLM schemes. He's still our very own #manhun.

1.5k qualifiers
2016: 140
2017:80 (46 not getting cheque)

Under 1.5k qualifiers
2017: 29

Thanks Whats. Dare you say how authoritative those figures are?

Very interesting.

I spotted that too. And so many names who had a cheque last year but not this year.

And I know for a fact that one of the 15k qualifiers from 2016 was only a cats whisker off getting 20k, so to go down to 12.5k is a huge drop. Well it will could be anywhere between 12.5k - 15k but still a big drop.

Yes they are some very big drops from some big names, some down 2 levels I can see

I wonder what that will do to the much-vaunted 'income' claims?

Where do you find this info??

It's all available in their magazine

What's the duration over which that money is made?

In a month? that's more impressive than I gave mlm's credit for.

That's not k actual money, that's how many "case credits" they have qualified by.

Yes those are the total CCs over the whole of 2016.

As a rough average guide. 50CCs = £1k

So it's over 12 months and not 1 month?

Yes those are the totals over 12 months. And it could be any number from the bottom of the level to the top. So someone who has qualified at 2.5k CCs pups have done anywhere between 2.5k & 5k

Wow that's a lot of gloop to shift

And when I say 50CCs is equal to £1k I mean for their monthly bonus. That won't be the case for CB because it depends what level they have qualified at. It's really hard to work out

sponge It's a lot of gloop to shit!

....It's really hard to work out....

Well of course it is!

BS 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Quick question, are bots allowed to do raffles on Fb? My bot (who also manages a gym so has her stock in there as I found out when I forgot my water bottle rage) is holding one and I can't remember if they're legitimate or not.

I'd be interested to know about raffles as my bot has them all the time. I won an item two and a bit weeks ago (I know I know I decided I should be more supportive as a New Years resolution and then realised...) and I haven't received it yet. It was drawn more than two weeks ago, then she ordered them and allegedly they're posted out. Not here yet 😡 She's also getting people to sell five items so they can get themselves a free one - jog on.

Raffles are illegal as the bots will not hold a gambling license. I reported one who said she was doing a charity raffle (product worth £23 raffle raised £100 with the remaining money going to charity) now the problem was, raffles can be held for charity without a license as long as no profit is made anywhere down the line, bit made a profit (commission) from the sale of the £23 product. The charity was not impressed at all either

Good lord! What to do about it then?

Are you in a position to say something to her directly?

I am yes I'll let her know - I don't want her to end up with issues.

You might be as well to read first the botwatchblog piece on 'People who care about you are worried' - or similar wording. It's difficult with former friend or relatives who are in thrall to an MLM and you sound more than a little ambivalent about the whole thing?