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Tastaslk is obviously the word talk after one too many shots of aloe vera.

Goodness. I thought you might have opened a banana milkshake!

Not yet. But once I go active with LTW I will have a cupboard full of it! Yipeee

dickiedavisthunderthighs - the wearing white to the wedding was what I was referring to earlier (but was being a bit cryptic about in case it got me into trouble).

Anyway, there were some comments on the photos to begin with along the lines of asking if it was an "all-white wedding" (as the person asking was obviously as surprised as anyone would be that a guest was wearing white!!).

The bot said it wasn't an all-white wedding and made some flippant comments about "upstaging the bride" . The comments later disappeared so I'm not sure whether other (less tactful) comments were made about her choice of outfit or she realised her faux pas or in fact whether she realised how her comments could've sounded been interpreted as quite bitchy.

I don't think she upstaged the bride...

Don't feel too sorry for the bride she is a top bot herself. Number 1 non manager business in the UK actually. The hashtags reminded me of a forever event and made me cringe!

I know the bride....not personally, but through others. Have name changed because it would be obvious who I was to her if linked with my previous threads...but oh the hashtags! So cringeworthy. And she ain't doing as well as she makes out...

I name changed too I once worked with her. One of her "teamies"
All sweet and light publicly but behind the scenes it's all me, me, me! What can you do for me.
Wedding cost 50k though apparently funded entirely by forever. I know a lot of her managers and their businesses have nose dived since June. Will be interesting to see what the future holds.

I have been passed this by another mnetter. Thanks . More medical claims put on fb yesterday by fl bot .

I don't know how they continue to get away with it....oh actually yes I do! Head office turn a blind eye!

The bot that got married on Saturday publicly advertised via a video that she was giving away a business in a box (so paying for someone to join) this is totally against company policy as you can't incentivise a new team member but was totally brushed under the carpet because of who she is. I bet she had loads message her to "win" this and therefore loads to chose next month in order to hit her 4cc! I suppose it's worth spending £600 signing people up per month to get the monthly bonus she would receive.

This Frazzles my little brain. How can it be worthwhile to pay the 200 for someone else?

Long time lurker on this thread and have been reading Timeless Vie and the blog posts with much interest!
But I do have some questions!

Apologies if this has been talked about up thread (haven't read in a while) but did you all see the Huffington Post article about the MLM businesses? It was basically saying that at the end of the day, the "business" makes these people money... And it must do... Doesn't it? Ignore the FL CC stuff. If a customer buys from you, you get to keep some of it, right?
Best with me...
An old friend of mine has done many MLM jobs. He stops doing them when they stop working for him. He does it to back up his performance career. His partner doesn't work. Am I allowed to mention the company? (I won't just in case!) Are these MLMs all the same? Should you just point blank avoid?

So can these MLMs work for people if they're not lies like FL or bullshit like LTW?

What I'm struggling with is that I would love to earn some extra cash but have a really specific job that isn't baby friendly (I have a 9mo) and I work freelance... So going back I'd not be able to do flexible working etc... Suddenly these MLMs do seem appealing. However both myself and DH don't want to touch them with a barge pole as something doesn't sit right.

But if my friend can genuinely make it work for him, why shouldn't it work for others?

I know about all the crazy FL stuff and I don't want to become a scary bot either... But is there a level that MLMs work?

Apologies for muddley post... Am sleepy but mind is whirring away!

Not best... Bear... Damn autocorrect

Having looked into the whole swindle for almost a year now, I think I can say with authority that its not worth the bother. I've been having a convo with someone yesterday who reckons they're doing really well and earning £400 -£600 a month, but they're not looking at it properly. No one in mlm ever does.
If you add up the time spent (hours and hours online for instance, a lot of it on evenings and weekends) and your costs (everyone seems to forget about the costs), you'd be better off stacking shelves a day or two a week. You'd actually see more of your friends. Plus in order to even earn that (99% of sign ups lose money), the maths of mlm means you'll be signing up downline, promising them the world and most of them will lose money, getting no further than the start up kit. Does that sit well with you? It wouldn't with me. And thats why there's the need to recruit, recruit recruit relentlessly as most will never get further than signing up and launching, they realise that they can't find any buyers. Mlm crap tends to be too expensive for most people. Weekly shop or two bottles of aloe gloop? One and a half grand for an air purifier? Nine hundred quid for five cooking pans? Who are the customers? The mlm rep is the customer. I'm freelance too and two women I know who do the same job as me are now in mlms and I can't see an evidence at all that it is doing anything more than costing them money and time. I'm just cringing for them, cringing.
I can see that some people get addicted to mlms, even though they make nothing, the 'hunning' the positivity bullshit, it's a bit like what some people get out of going to church, telling someone they are valued, (especially when they don't feel that way), getting given trinkets for reaching levels. Some people do seem to love that. They move from one mlm to the next, thinking that this time this one will be the one that works, but it never happens.

No Lilwelshyrs, MLMs never work. No one makes money off them unless they become like a celebrity within that MLM and people flock to join up under them. Most of those people joining will lose money.

Your friend that is claiming to earn money may well be lying to you in the hope of recruiting you. Or they are lying to themselves and are unable to see the truth anymore. They lose the ability to think critically and assess their situation. They see any loses as an investment and any failures as their fault. They think if they just believe they will be successful, then it will come true.

There are a few work at home opportunities that I have researched and put together in a blog post that may earn you some money. Have a look here- botwatchblog.wordpress.com/2016/05/20/in-need-of-alternative-extra-income/

For information on MLMs, have a look here. There are some good general links at the beginning. botwatchblog.wordpress.com/2016/06/21/directory-of-mlm-information/

Beware the innocuous sounding MLMs like Body Shop and Usvirne books. Both look wholesome, honest, good solid brands. But a close friend of mine did body shop for 18 months, three herself into it, did every event going, was up til 2am most nights doing paperwork), also had a part time job and 2 going children. She wore herself into the ground. I 'helped' her by buying products and hosting parties... she got cery stressed in the end and packed it in. Turned out in 18 months she'd made less than £1000 in total. So many hours per week slogging away... what a waste! This person is a graduate, has excellent business sense, so i kniw it wasn't that she wasn't trying hard enough. She has moved on with her life but I mentioned it once and she got very very cagey about it.

Well find, today I'm off on my holiday with family and will not be looking at my business emails for the next 2 weeks... no laptop in the sunlounger for this bossbabe!

Latest from International botwatch.

UNO appears to be spearheaded by someone called Joe Fabregas who is now off to campaign in Nigeria (pic). His accent appears to be Filipino mixed with American.

I'm not sure what language is being subtitled, but Eastern European at a guess:

I stupidly did Avon years and years ago and it seemed successful - I had a lot of customers and because I'd already paid for the products they bought, when I got the cash, it did feel like I was making money easily. I hated it in the end, not because of the MLM side but because I had no one to go to when I had problems. There was a call centre which went to India and the people on the phone didn't give a rats ass about me. I left after a couple of months. But it felt like it could have been a good thing if i'd focused a bit better.
However, by the sounds of it, no matter how good my focus, I'd have still needed more and more focus and energy! I think I had a lucky escape.

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/10602586

That's the Huffington post, er, post. Maybe someone needs to have a word with them! (Apologies, don't know how to do links )

Oh... It did it...

lil - thinking of a few successful, affluent FL bots, and the lifestyle they so carefully portray I do not believe that those people coukd live like that on the percentage of profits they receive from selling aloe vera. So that means 1 of 3 things....

1. Their income comes from recruiting. So to say MLMs aren't bad us to condone pyramiupyramiud schemes.
2. They are exaggerating their financial success and/or their main source of income is non-mlm
3. All of the above

My friend publicly tries to recruit by offering to coach people to "six figure incomes" when quite clearly makes no where near that herself. You'd think she'd coach herself to do it first before concentrating on anyone else but that's another story....

My autocorrect is obviously still high after the yazooo. Apologies!

I guess if it was so easy to make six figure salaries doing MLMs, everyone would be doing it!

I've seen bots claim the majority of people will be in X years

Those that make it work obviously have thicker skins than me. I couldnt handle hounding my friends and family for money, goes against my personal values, and as for alienating people with the constant memes, selfies, desperate videos, online parties... Cringe!

I know someone who got their box on a Monday and was inviting her friends to "follow her new glamorous lifestyle" on Tuesday. That's right folks in the space of 24 hours she became a budget Victoria Beckham. It was embarrassing. 2 months of annoying online parties, an unsuccessful attempt at getting people to buy lip balm so she could donate 50p to a local hospital and then she never mentioned it again. Because it doesn't work!