MLM Bot Watch 24 - Powered by Twunk's Yazoo: Tragicomic cultic wampum flogging scamalangadingdongs like Forever Living, Ariix, Herbalife, Younique, Juiceplus, LifeTreeWorld.

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toobusy I saw that on Bot Watch earlier! Great work as always

It's a real difficult one, though. In many organisations, MLMs being just one of them, the whole family is expected to be involved. You can imagine how it would happen.

Forever, I can' take much credit for it, people send me stuff and I just put it out there.

You are there for someone to send the stuff to! That is worth a lot.

LTW and their credit-worthiness here:

www.facebook.com/liestopper/posts/1022713931179624:0

Traffic monsoon is a Ponzi shocker

www.facebook.com/liestopper/posts/1022802117837472

I don't agree with children being involved, I would give my opinion why but it would expose who I am so I can't.
I know who you are referring to, I don't know if any of you have seen the film bridesmaids when Helens step kids tell her to fuck off........that is the majority of older forever children. Of course that isn't shown.

That's good news Delurker. I would worry that kids involved at an early age would become indoctrinated. Maybe they see the realities first hand and decide for themselves.

Without outing myself too much. I have to give credit to mumsnet person who reached out to me and actually showed me that I have more to offer in life than network marketing. They will know who they are, but I felt like they deserved a shout out on here.
Keep doing what you're doing, if I can be converted then anyone can.
So thank you to my secret squirrel, you have changed my life and I thank you for it.

At my elderly mum's today, spotted this in a free magazine she was reading

There seem to be mlm stalls at every bloody fete and fun day we go to. Rarrrgh.

Fete organisers don't usually realise what they're doing when they give stall space to MLMs - they're just glad to fill up space.

My friend is doing the acti lab diet. I got into a disagreement on fb with the person who sold it to her especially when she said she sells some of it to slimming world members. WTF! i said. How is it fair that they have an unfair advantage over other SW members who are just following the SW plan. the ones doing actilab and SW combined could be winning slimmer of the week/month awards by unfair means when the rest of the class is doing SW proper.

As a successful SW member TWICE (although the second time it has taken 3 years to lose 4 stone because it crawled off) I was fucking fuming. I dont give a fuck about awards but thats not the point.....its still cheating and its not right. She STFU because she didnt have an answer for that.

Just goes to show though that you shouldnt take too much notice of others weight loss even at a bona fide class and not get depressed if they are losing faster than you..........because going by this they could well be cheating.

Before the bot dropped herself in it with me by admitting she sells it to SW members i pointed out how unhealthy the product she was selling was in general.

her answer was to try and sell me some body lotion.

The UNO brand, which so far seems targeted at the Philippine community; although is spreading and does have connections in the UK, is using religion in a big way in their FB memes which is a big thing for them. How God will show them the way to achieve their dreams. I would be interested to see whether this can be traced back to Utah also.

The products/marketing/sizzles etc. are an absolute carbon copy of FL.

CAM

Seeing a lot of this meme plus this message (clearly copied and pasted)

Hi folks, a quick message for all those who have messaged me to get started with LTW , and I haven't been able to get back to you guys,
Pm me so I can get you started .

I'll only be working with 12 people in August who are committed ,serious and hungry for success.
First come first served.

That's a most .......unfortunate meme.

A rare truthful one though

Right, I'm either being incredibly dim or I'm really behind with events, but has our favourite poster girl for FL moved -castle- house? I can't find any posts on it.

Gah! My strikethrough didn't work!

She has moved yes. To let everyone know but not know if you get what I mean she hashtagged the area and the estate agents so that people could google both.
My inside knowledge is that CCs have massively dropped so it was a wise move to buy now as her monthly has dropped by £30k.
She is also the reason that the sign up box CCs have been halfed because her focus has been on recruiting and not on the product. Funny she doesn't share that info with her minions.

I realise that these top bots have loadsa dosh so she probably was able to buy her new house without a mortgage, but it made me wonder... If you are an 'independent business owner' with one of these MLMs, would you be able to apply for a mortgage based on your income? What proof could you provide of earnings/ future earnings?

(Because, having recently moved house, I know how strict and rigorous mortgage providers are these days!)

A friend has sent me this link to one of the UNO products. At first watch, it's amusing and back in the day would probably appear on Tarrant on TV (anyone remember that?) but actually, it's demographic targeting once again.

Even though it's in Tagalog with a little English it's easy enough to follow.

Many of the (very young, very pretty) Filipina women working here earn the equivalent of 80 pounds a month, most of which is sent back to support their families. Finding an older (not necessarily Filipino) husband is their aim or alternatively earning money to support those back home.

For many of the men here, finding a young pretty obliging wife is theirs.

Although I was told by a contact (who is advertised as a "top earner" and is headlining a "mini sizzle" next week) made through a friend that I could earn lots of money and me and my family could be sponsored by the company (thankfully not necessary - my husband's JOB does that as would one I took in the city in my area of expertise) that in, Judge Judy terms, is baloney.

She is now desperately trying to recruit me into her down line. It's a shame several of her non UNO inspirational FB posts show her working at a shoe shop in a mall.

I'm actually finding it so heartbreaking; and I'm not sure how long I can play along with it to find out more. Thankfully I seem to have shaken off the English/Filipino/Czech/Ghanian person(s) who were calling. One mention of the word "pyramid" and they've stopped.

spongebob I don't see how you could get a mortgage. It's more difficult for people who are (genuinely) self employed. No responsible lender would touch you. I cant imagine being a bossbabe impresses the bank manager. However... Nobody I know involved in MLM actually uses it as their main income, they all have other jobs, partners, tax credits, child maintenance etc supporting them. These were all things I was asked if applied to me when I've applied for mortgages so I guess that is how it would be possible.
You've also got to remember jobs, pensions, anual leave and sick pay are for idiots so I'm sure there will be a negative spin on owning your own home too.

earlier on Humblebot [as an occasional lurker I've no idea of the provenance of this nickname but I like it, she's obviously a character, I reckon Matt Lucas could get her down to a tee if there was ever a future series of Little Britain] posted a picture of herself with a flipchart or something behind her featuring the beginnings of a diagram that looked awfully like, well, a pyramid of some kind.

how how how can that humblebot have 'given up a multiple six figure income' because she was so miserable......and then 'a week into launching my business and I'm straight back to being a six figure earner'

HOW HOW HOW