MLM-bot watch - LIGHTHEARTED - continued discussion of Juice + Forever Living Younique etc as scams with laughing

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Continued LIGHT-HEARTED discussion here.

For heavy analysis, please check out Eyespy's threads on the same topic.

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update: 459 likes on TV FB page, over 6,000 reach

nearly 5,500 views of blog - not bad since it was started in november, and we're noticing more and more websearches for TV too.

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Please keep this thread is bot-watching, sharing screenshots, random MLM info you find and other crazy shit, please and thankyou

And again, we could do none of this without all of you. Thank you.

Geordie, have a look at ch 6 of the FL company policy handbook.

I notice that the higher up bots do not put themselves at risk by making such claims. Maybe they have read the handbook and know better than to break the rules?

The 'FLP' shills are sly enough not to allow themselves to get filmed (or recorded) making bogus medical claims, but rank and file Bots don't come up with these very precisely-worded scripts by themselves.

she stuck the script on the opposite wall didn't she? thanks for the share, really funny. I wonder if this Argi will take the bins out as well? Seems to do everything else!

Dolly - I couldn't find anything on it, it must be a strategy she doles out to her disciples at rallies and success days.

What I take from it is that you're expected to put everything else on hold and focus purely on Forever until you start seeing a turnaround.

So is this why nearly everyone who starts this fails? They don't want to give up everything just to make a massive company a shit tonne more money and take a very, very small cut themselves. Doesn't really make them a failure in my eyes.

I also keep seeing the words 'see what's in this for you' almost as a signature on bot posts.

Nothing but regret people!! Let's be real.

I'm calling that one the 'erm bot'
That Argi is truly remarkable stuff.

Dolly I'm guessing the 30 days thing is a rehash of training she has received. O'Conman has a 21 day mindset programme, the theory (not of his creation) is that if you practice something for 21 days it becomes a habit. And as Patzy85 says it's a convenient amount of time to work very hard bringing money in for glorious leader. Also, if you ask people to work unbelievably hard at something it's easier to point the finger of blame at the underlings when things don't pan out......"I did tell you how much effort you needed to put in....and I saw you hugging your child last wednesday, you're clearly not giving it your full attention".

Well all the run your own business/planning/coaching books I've ever read do not recommend working 30 days straight. That way, madness lies. No wonder the uberbots look deranged.

Ambler - it's almost like an unwritten clause. Even though you're initially told it's easy, takes only a few hours out of your week and the potential earnings are huge the real truth is that you have to be a certain kind of person.

There's so much emphasis on how anyone can do this and that if someone can't managed to make it work it's their own fault.

Not everyone is cut out for this, just like anything else. Not everyone could be a vet/policeman/social worker/banker etc. So what makes selling crap to people at a huge cost any different? And why look down your nose at someone who doesn't want to pay to take the risk?

And to anyone considering it, remember they PAY for everything. The cars(it's a loan), the holidays (it's not free unless you're earning a LOT), events on the holidays (depending on how much you earn for the company, but YOU still pay), the products (you HAVE to use), the rallies, the success days (you HAVE to attend), training, literatures, stationary, business cards, samples to give out, pupp boxes to give out, delivery and travel costs. The list is seeming endless. Never mind the fact you pay for the 'privilege' to sell the junk. £200 to even attempt it.

It's not easy but mainly because people think you're basically insane for this actually. That's why you're forever friends are so important once you start this journey. They're on the same wavelength and it's not because they're big dreamers!

The failure rate is astonishing and somehow completely ignored, but I honestly think it's because most people are too good to do this. Not everyone is a soulless recruiting machine!

'Argi Plus' sounds (an probably tastes) remarkably like 'Lydia Pinkman's Vegetable Compound,' which amazingly is still produced, and sold, to this day.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Pinkham

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Pinkham#/media/File:Lydia_E._Pinkhams_cures_and_claims.jpg

'MLM 30, 60 and 90 Day Blitz' or 'Fast Track Runs,' originated in 'Amway,' but they have appeared in many different 'MLM' rackets. They are designed to take up as much of the adherents' time as possible, which is a classic brainwashing technique.

What do we make of this (posted by a local bot)?

I'm particularly wondering about the bit about paying someone £40 if their fb share leads to a new victim team member. Is that not a bit dodgy?

Also wondered if you'd still get your free hand sanitizer or Aloe lips if you shared the post on the Timeless Vie page !

Do you know just one person who might need an extra £200-£500 per month working from home around their current commitments?
Comment below and I can send you a bit more info.
Please SHARE THIS POST and I will reward you with a hand sanitiser or Aloe lips.
If a new team member joins me as a result of your post I will reward you with £40.

Sorry bot's post was supposed to be in bold (it's the bit between the *'s)

There has GOT to be some kind of directive from the upper echelons of FL for their bots to ignore the haterz Hun not to post on this thread. Otherwise, where are they all? Anything negative at all on the Internet about FL gets absolutely pounced on by the bots and yet, silence here.

Keep up the good work guys.

Wow a not has managed to not get a cold in the 9mths that are traditionally not a cold and flu season.

I pretty much managed that too, without the aloe, and neither have I spent a fortune on lemsip. I am pretty much quids up.

Norbert, I have only just this afternoon come across the same thing.
They try to prospect to someone who has loads of contacts on Fb. He says no. Then the bot asks for access to all of his Feb contacts and promises him £40 for everyone that she signs up.

£40. Exactly the same as in your example. That is no coincidence.

NorbertDentressangle If any MN member wants to test just how desperate Bots are to sign any recruit, then try asking one how much money he/she is prepared to give you, to sign up.

Better still, say:

Well, if 'MLM' is such a sure fire business, surely you will to agree to pay me £100 if I sign up immediately.

When the triumphant Bot says; 'yes OK,' keep raising your price.

This, of course, is a illegal payment (in the UK).

Hmm interesting...

Unsurprisingly £40 (or there about) is what you can earn for signing someone up (as long as they buy the New Distributor pack - approx £200).

So are bots being asked to forgo their own earnings to rope people in with this commission based incentive? Is this just when you have ran out of warm leads of your own? How do you actually turn a profit!

But Patzi, you the recruit all of the victims who have spent £200 and it counts towards your promotion so excellent value. They are buying their promotion, as Craig describes.

patzy you get £39 if you sign someone up and you're an assistant supervisor. If you're a manager you get £64.

Look as this little gem I stumbled across. It was posted last year but still...... I'm shocked at this one.

Sminkypink Previously, I said it was illegal for an existing participant to pay someone to sign up for a trading scheme in the UK, but actually it's not illegal, it's only foolish.

As far as I'm aware (technically) it's only illegal for recruits to pay sign up fees to join schemes, but not for recruits to receive sign up fees.

Years ago, a friend of mine with a cruel sense of humour, and a keen sense of business, asked me if we went round asking desperate Ambots for payment to join their pyramid scheme, but then refused to partipate after we'd given a fake name and taken their cash, who would be committing fraud?

So, Louise Perry is demonstrating here how low a bot can go. As "random act of kindness" in memory of a child who died from SIDS she is going to help someone who doesn't have the funds to set up their FL business. This is not a random act of kindness! LP will benefit from it as she will get money for recruiting, and what about the bot she is recruiting who doesn't have the money to start the business? how will they pay for everything else going forward?

Wow. How is that a kindness! Sucking someone in to something who will most likely (no disrespect to the lady in question) fail at this venture. Just awful. These people are disgusting.

I can't even find the words.

the woman is shameless