MLM-bot watch - LIGHTHEARTED - continued discussion of Juice + Forever Living Younique etc as scams with laughing

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Continued LIGHT-HEARTED discussion here.

For heavy analysis, please check out Eyespy's threads on the same topic.

Our own, fake MN MLM twitter, FB & blog accounts are here:

@TimelessVie
wordpress.com/timelessvie
facebook.com/timelessvie

update: 459 likes on TV FB page, over 6,000 reach

nearly 5,500 views of blog - not bad since it was started in november, and we're noticing more and more websearches for TV too.

Interested in more indepth analysis? On the left sidebar of the blog, under "blogroll" is a list of more serious MLM blogs.

Please keep this thread is bot-watching, sharing screenshots, random MLM info you find and other crazy shit, please and thankyou

And again, we could do none of this without all of you. Thank you.

Towee
Möbius found it.
It has been posted twice; I'm sure that she will see this and repost.

Perhaps it could be included in the op of the next thread because it lays bare the truth of what bots have to doo?

(Such as trying to recruit at your local abbatoir :) )

Sminky,
Yy to ex cult members being shunned and smeared.
That is what I hope will not happen to Craig.

It is a standard (and necessary for the cult to survive) cult characteristic.

Aidan O'Hare posted yesterday that FL had a 'Blue Thumb' ward.

Could TimelessVie have a similar accreditation?
Green toenail?

Urgh. This has really irritated me.

toobusy siwi

www.thinkbigflp.com/docs/teachtoreach_qls.pdf

I originally found that doc trying to do some digging on the 'QLS' weekend in Telford that my bot had been banging on about. I could be wrong, but I'm under then impression that QLS is The 'forever' business name for Jayne Leach's team. So the seminar was all about her.... (£££££)

She reminds me of The Trunchbull from Matilda.

I note that Claire Spencer has blocked me, despite me never having any interaction with her. I'm flattered, I must truly be a dangerous, negative, supressive person. Or maybe something more exciting like an drug addicted loser. I think it also means she's been reading Timeless Vie. Excellent. They are all aware of this campaign now, it's obvious. And it's interesting to see negative stuff on their pages, about haters, when their upline tells them not to post it, nor interact with it. Guess it shows they do still have some feelings under that robotic exterior.

My bot's upline is also going on about this 'free holiday to South Africa' that she's now confirmed to be part of.
If my memory serves me right, it's a 5 day trip to J'burg that will consist of further FL indoctrination, rather like the Singapore trip last year. Even FL calls it their 'Global Rally'. Clearly not an actual holiday....

sminkypink - What all core-cult adherents are programmed to exclude, is multi-dimensional external reality. Their lives can become one long struggle to impose their own controlled, two-dimensional ('negative vs positive') model of reality on the rest of the world.

When the 'Amway' spin-off 'GEPM' was bankrupted and closed in France, 1500 core-'GEPM' Bots turned up at the Paris office of UNADFI (a government-funded cult advice association which had previously gathered victims to file civil lawsuits). The Bots had arrived on buses from all over France and Belgium, at their own expense. They invaded the premises and held the UNADFI staff hostage for several hours. In the end a senior UNADFI volunteer, Matthieu Cossu was forced to come outside and make a video in which he read a prepared script saying why 'GEPM' was not a cult. Matthieu is a strong and very brave guy, but he was surrounded by hundreds of angry and self-righteous Bots waving placards that said 'Leave our Businesses Alone Enough is Enough UNADFI is an Anti-Capitalist Cult,' etc..

The bots are definitely watching sminky. I dare say a lot of them agree too, maybe even feeling some embarrassment at their transparency! Timeless is growing all the time and the Coopers etc are going to need a new plan!

My bots are all about 'self-care' right now. Gym, nails, eyebrows, shopping and hair photos with questions such as "what have you done for yourself recently?" - well, I've done these things and remained humble, you Dorito coloured tit!

A friend told me about a mutual friends attempt to recruit her husband recently and the over-the-top messages she has been sending him, telling him they would be wildly rich and everyone else is an idiot for not getting on board - it actually really annoyed me. This person has started hanging around him and acting really chummy, all very creepy behaviour considering she didn't have anything to do with him before. He isn't interested and said it is clearly a pyramid scheme but since he showed a tiny bit interest initially she won't let this prospect go!

mobius you're right, QLS is JL's business name. It stands for Quality Lifecare Services.

fintan depending on how many people you have recruited and got up the marketing plan depends on how many days you get to go to South Africa, some get 4 days, some get 10 days. You're right it's the global rally. I also know that a lot of Forever people who didn't qualify will pay to go to it too.

Can you imagine what they're saying about this thread and timeless vie. With regards to the negativity if I was struggling with contacting I was never allowed to post negatively about it on the group pages. You're taught to always go to your upline and never spew the negativity to your downline.

MN members might be interested to visit 'Amway's' propaganda attack site (I am very briefly mentioned).

www.thetruthaboutamway.com/category/amway-critics/

This 'Scientology'-style black propaganda has been broadcast by David Steadson, a Australian IT specialist with a psychology degree. This guy openly admits he's an 'Amway' adherent, but he says he has never tried to make money and he's never encountered any abusive practises. Steadson claims that all his years of effort comprising many many thousands of lengthy Internet interventions and multiple websites ( in multiple languages) have come purely out of the kindness of his heart and his noble desire to establish the truth about 'Amway and MLM'.

They tell the Mary Kay people that under no circumstances are they to read Pink Truth, FL are probably saying something similar about TV - here's hoping some will just be curious anyway!

Thanks for that, Ray. She's going for 5 days. She's just started going on now about going on safari too, but what she isn't saying is that's and add-on and she does have to pay for it herself. It's at an FL 'resort' so the price she'll pay for that part of the trip is reasonable, but the bottom line is that FL are still making money out of her, at the same time she thinks she's getting a free holiday. You can't make it up

darceybussell - The 'FLP' mob seem to have become pretty disorganised and complacent when it comes to dealing with dissent. It will be interesting to see what the 'FLP' reaction to the MN campaign will be. 'MLM' propagandists usually seek to paint 'MLM critics' as isolated weirdo/zealots with personal axes to grind, but as the MN campaign gathers speed, that story-line will become increasingly difficult to peddle.

Scientologists are only permitted on the Internet using a filter that screens anti-Scientology stuff.

Controlling information is a standard cult characteristic.

Fintan, do you have proof that FL owns the resort? I suspected that (that these 'free' holidays cost FL nothing and that those bots who pay for themselves or for add owns are just being ever more compliant customers of FL), but Ray (I think) posted a list of their resorts and the place hosting the event (Nwange Lodge?) wasn't on the list.

Very interesting if FL owns the place hosting the rally.

Siwi, I don't have proof that they own it, but they label it as a FL Resort and some of the other places as FL Lodge, so I was assuming they had some financial interest.

Either way, I suspect there is some financial benefit to them in pushing the add on Safaris to FLBots!

This the page I found :

www.foreversafari.com/new-page/

Siwi- The bosses of each 'MLM' cult have used the same (play the victim, but attack, and isolate, the 'critics') tactics and sought to maintain their own monopolies of information, but they have also acted collectively.

Because of his money and celebrity, Bill Ackman became the major target for the 'MLM' syndicate. He's been portrayed as a criminal and stock market manipulator, and not just by 'Herbalife' propagandists.

The mainstream media has largely focused on 'the war between Ackman and Herbalife' and ignored the real story.

One of the most visible attackers of Bill Ackman has been 'MLM' shill, Tim Sales, who is also a 'Scientologist.'

The flavour of today is T.G.I.M.

Thank god it's Monday - the day most normal humans dread because they have to go to work after a lovely weekend off having spent time with family/friends doing recreational activities that unfortunately didn't include any meetings, wacky Skype calls to people they've just met, repetitive presentations, smothering themselves in aloe, drinking gunge, hassling members of the public, compiling lists of people to bother or celebrating success (which of course costs £25).

Isn't it funny that these top bots with 7,000 friends only get 5 likes on these Forever posts.

You know why that is bots?

Because those normal folk you look down on are too busy rolling their eyes to press like! Bore off!!

a quick comparison search shows a 6 day safari break in SA comes in at approx £450 GBP
www.africanbudgetsafaris.com/budget-lodge-safaris/6-day-kruger-park-private-game-lodge-safari/

granted it doesn't have the spa stuff thrown in (but looking at the forever itinerary spa treatments aren't even included in the price anyway!) www.foreversafari.com/safaris/2015/7/9/3-day-safari-option-1

and forever want almost double that for something similar... even though the non-forever trip looks more interesting as there's more time actually on safari, rather than being ditched for hours to do shopping & learn about how bottled water is made

Ray of hope, were you part of the qls group?

I was and I'm sure I used to pay a monthly fee to be a member of their website.
It was either that or another one.
It was around £10 - £15 a month.
I think you got training guides etc
I never found it useful so cancelled my subscription

also patzy notice the 'likes' actually come from other bots more often than not. Or even better, sometimes there is only 1 'like' and it is from the same bot that posted! c-ringe!

M0 it's only ever their bum-licking downline who likes anything along with the "tell me your secrets hun" comments!

The secret is to lie in bed with a laptop that has an inspirational screensaver. Even I can see this! #changinglives

£15 a month? No hard to work out where her money is coming from, is it? And she's got the bare faced cheek to say it's from the #aloeshite

The 'FLP' propagandists have already started to try to post nasty 'Scientology' style black-propaganda comments on my article about Craig Morgan.

This Morning someone signing himself/herself, 'Martin,' sent the following snide attack:

'Hi Craig I only have one question - has your downward slide been as a response to your own failure to handle your relationship - or your inability to succeed at something you weren't cut out to do? Because from your words it doesn't actually show where exactly FLP has directly contributed to cause physical illness.'