MLM-bot watch - LIGHTHEARTED - continued discussion of Juice + Forever Living Younique etc as scams with laughing

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Continued LIGHT-HEARTED discussion here.

For heavy analysis, please check out Eyespy's threads on the same topic.

Our own, fake MN MLM twitter, FB & blog accounts are here:

@TimelessVie
wordpress.com/timelessvie
facebook.com/timelessvie

update: 459 likes on TV FB page, over 6,000 reach

nearly 5,500 views of blog - not bad since it was started in november, and we're noticing more and more websearches for TV too.

Interested in more indepth analysis? On the left sidebar of the blog, under "blogroll" is a list of more serious MLM blogs.

Please keep this thread is bot-watching, sharing screenshots, random MLM info you find and other crazy shit, please and thankyou

And again, we could do none of this without all of you. Thank you.

Fintan that bot's page is heavy on the flogging of the aloe toothpaste with no fluoride, and her personal page is full of her painful dental problems. But I'm sure they're in no way connected.

#takingatoothextractionfortheteam
#stalky? #me?

'Martin' has now sent a further comment to my Blog in which he addresses me in a friendly way by my first name. He pretends that I have 'not responded' to his question 'at least not on a forum' that he 'would have subscribed to.'

Thus, 'Martin' has let it slip that he's been reading the MN threads.

Somewhat revealingly, 'Martin' then says that he has 'nothing to hide fear or worry about' and that he has 'filed' my 'appropriate comments.'

MObius, those memes are fab! ]grin]

Thus, 'Martin' has let it slip that he's been reading the MN threads.

They're heeeeere! scary Poltergeist voice.

Eye - Martin is definitely reading. They all are, I don't doubt that for a second. This is a problem for them and they're going to need to counteract somehow. We are probably a bigger threat than they even realise.

Imagine sending someone home after a business presentation only for them to discover this. Anyone with any sense wouldn't disregard it!

Here we have several threads, heavy on fact based evidence and reasoning (something that we know FL "business owners" don't handle well) ex-bots exposing the truth and now Craig. They're probably warning people of it/us as we speak, from their bed of course because #myoffice

Patzy85 FL Bots and British FL shills yes, but I think there are many American 'MLM' racketeers, and their attorneys and PR advisers, now closely-monitoring what has been happening on these MN threads.

Make no mistake, these crooks will know full-well that these MN threads represent one of the most significant threats ever to 'MLM' racketeers' monopoly of information. Personally, I've never seen anything quite like it.

Links to these threads have also been sent to Robert FitzPatrick's contacts.

We need a webchat!
Mumsnet is the perfect vehicle to introduce 'mums' to a fantastic opportunity to make money from home whilst being with the babbies!

I see no flaw whatsoever in this plan.

I've just seen something blood boiling from my bot, had to share.

victim: "I'll be joining you guys next month when my maternity grant comes in"
Bot: "Music to my ears, drop me a message hun"

I'm so fucked off (probably unjustifiably so) that these so called boss babes are targeting vulnerable, and presumably financially strapped people.

Morally wrong IMO.

stqueen - you have to leave your morals at the door!

I watch those (really awful) Emma Cooper Vimeos and there's one where she suggested that people "get rid of the kids" so they could focus solely on the business for 30 days.

She also discusses how it's a lot of hard work and takes hours every day, just talking people in to this and winning then round.

So the 'a few hours a week, spend more time with your kids' etc thing is highlighted yet again as being complete nonsense.

Do you think 'Martin' spends all day in his jimjams? #manhun!

So I have been reading for a while and loving all the comments but kept forgetting my login so couldn't comment! So, in no particular order things I have spotted:

A bot who posted an inside shot of DO'Cs book - open at a black and white photo page. Guess he couldn't stump up for colour printing! 'Dreams Publishing' anyone? A quick google turned up an independent faith publisher that doesn't want any evil manuscripts. Or it is self-publishing under a made up name...

Same bot going on about extending South Africa trip with safari - cue lots of bleating about how it was such a good deal and how well the company treats them. Also noticed around the same time that JL refers to one of her sons having a safari lodge in - don't suppose if anyone knows if there is a connection there to FL lodges?

Also spotted - can't remember what bot page it was on now - that one of them posted more text than usually about the global rally thing in South Africa which clearly shows that the number of days you get and what activities you attend depend on your level of qualifying. Not exactly a guess of anyone can get this awesome holiday more like "you can get some parts of the holiday and be made to feel like you are missing out on awesome sessions so you try harder next year"... Also, you get two wristbands. Kids have to be paid for separately. You can use one of your wristbands for 14+ child but if they are under 18 they can't come to half the activities with you. Great family time.

We're getting there! On school playground pickup today I heard the alpha mums talking about timeless vie and they didn't give a shit they were within earshot of the local über fl bot. Yes!!

Also, Wes Linden another bot showing up all over FB with NH - published his book with Noah's House Publishing. Can't see it has published anything other than his book. So essentially self-published. Not that there is anything wrong with self-publishing but it just highlights for me that this not mainstream business publishing!

Also, all the FB post banging on about DO'Cs book being number 1 on Amazon. yes, in a few very niche categories! Not number 1 on the whole Amazon site which is how half the bots seem to write it.

Which are the EC videos about dumping kids?
I've just watched the one flogging 3 books.

what category is it number one in? Woo Cosmic category?

I wonder how many unique views this thread has had. I'm sure I'm not the only person who finds it fascinating. Gutted that I don't have a bot IRL. I think that one of my old school friends is Yonique but she only ever posts selfies of herself very made up, fishing for likes so that she can pounce probably.

Siwi - it's the 13.1.16 at 22.08 one.

Smoke and mirrors powerofthree They omit that it's a niche market end not the whole of amazon but a quick google shows the truth.

I also know some high up ones who live on their credit cards, they have the lovely cars but I don't believe they've hit car plan.

I really hope these threads are helping people to decide not to join! I wish I hadn't have built a small team. I don't mind some of the products I just wish I had known more about what was expected before recruiting.

Dreich - that is just wonderful! I wonder if this stuff gets brought up at success days?

My bot has inexplicably dragged 50 people into her web since May! Can't believe people are falling for this bollocks. It's fair to say that a good chunk of them seem to have small babies so she's obviously targeting people on Mat leave as well.

What happens if you recruit 50 people in a year but (as per failure rate in this business) 45 drop out/aren't very good at manipulation selling?

Do you have to start from scratch?

Well we know of at least 1 mn member who found us and decided not to join. Even if it is only ever just one person, it's all still worth it imo. (Even though I'm certain we will save 1000's)

As a fully fledged member of Timeless vie, I have already spread the word and recruited (at least) 5 rl friends who were very interested in the truth behind mlms. I have tasked each with making a wdyk list and doing the same.. Each earning kudos and good karma credits for signing new people up to spreading the word

patsy those five could be your 'diamonds', if they all get to manager, that would make you a soaring manager within the business so as long as you keep recruiting newbies and get them through their first couple of promotions you will get paid your team leading bonus and be on your way to qualify for the incentives.

In the first steps to manager booklet a soaring manager will be earning between £45k - £104k......

Somebody mentioned Wes Linden higher up in the thread. I recognise the name, because I know a Utility Warehouse bot who seems to almost worship him. Whenever he puts something on Facebook, she likes it and comments, but the things she says are a bit creepy. I think she's been completely brainwashed.

Ray - is that a realistic potential earning? Surely if there's only 5 managers who recruit and earn 4cc each and the newbies don't even manage to break even (like the majority), can that be feasible?