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MLM-bot watch - LIGHTHEARTED - continued discussion of Juice + Forever Living Younique etc as scams with laughing

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lastuseraccount123 · 10/01/2016 19:11

Continued LIGHT-HEARTED discussion here.

For heavy analysis, please check out Eyespy's threads on the same topic.

Our own, fake MN MLM twitter, FB & blog accounts are here:

@TimelessVie
wordpress.com/timelessvie
facebook.com/timelessvie

update: 459 likes on TV FB page, over 6,000 reach

nearly 5,500 views of blog - not bad since it was started in november, and we're noticing more and more websearches for TV too.

Interested in more indepth analysis? On the left sidebar of the blog, under "blogroll" is a list of more serious MLM blogs.

Please keep this thread is bot-watching, sharing screenshots, random MLM info you find and other crazy shit, please and thankyou Grin

And again, we could do none of this without all of you. Thank you.

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Eyespying · 21/01/2016 11:40

Patzy85- I sincerely hope that a certain Lucy Greenwood reads you message.

An avalanche of links to Lucy's tragicomic home-made 'FLP' propaganda videos have just been anonymously-sent to my Blog, but without any comment.

www.youtube.com/channel/UC3P_7nSzmO-PNlrFAHjaEBw

sminkypink · 21/01/2016 11:45

We're jealous? Oh yeah? I find that showy MLM wealth disgusting and tasteless, like some rapper off MTV cribs, dripping in gold, it's revolting. And I've done the five star hotels/ world travel and top restaurants lifestyle to death for decades, because my job takes me these places and quite frankly, it bores me. It's superficial and its not for me. I'd rather sling a tent in my canoe and go off and find an island to have a little fire on and camp out.
so, I'm not jealous, no way, I aspire to a completely different lifestyle to the one you're touting and I'm managing to live it for real, debt free, mortgage, rent free and without hurting anyone in the process.
What makes me angry is the out and out fabrication of this showy lifestyle.

M0biusgeek · 21/01/2016 11:49

love how the comments are disabled on the first video about 'dispelling the pyramid scheme association', eye

What a crock of shite the bots have repeated a million times. Eye-roll-o-rama

sminkypink · 21/01/2016 12:05

just watching Lucys videos. Bless, no sense of irony, there. :facepalm:

Eyespying · 21/01/2016 12:13

Lucy says she was recruited by her cousin, Verity Gavan.

www.online-instagram.com/user/truefreedom.int3/1699541548

Cousin Verity seems to come from Halifax Yorkshire and, judging by her accent, so does Lucy.

www.depop.com/en/elephantlove/galaxy-leggings-1012

Eyespying · 21/01/2016 12:41

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sminkypink · 21/01/2016 12:49

one of the vids, she admits, 'you won't turn a profit for at lest a year.' Amazing.

1gorgeousson · 21/01/2016 12:54

My bot this morning gave me the best gem in a long while. In the form of the Bill stick figure doing the rounds. Except...
This is Bill, Bill doesn't work 9-5, Bill works flexibly around his family. Bill helps others. Help yourself, message Bill to join me.
Looks better on the picture!
I love bot watching Grin there are hundreds around here Hmm

Eyespying · 21/01/2016 13:00

sminkypink This thirty-something couple from Sowerby Bridge (pronounced saw-bee) are tragic, but all too typical. They have a baby, and young mum, Lucy Greenwood, was employed in insurance, and young dad, Lee Waterworth, is listed as an electrician. If she's been in insurance, I'm guessing the couple will have a mortgage on their home. They could have been persuaded to re-mortgage to play the 'MLM' game of make-believe.

www.cbetta.com/director/lee-waterworth-6

Lucy now describes her occupation as Network Marketing and Lee simply says he's a Company Director.

ThenBellaDidSomethingVeryKind · 21/01/2016 13:21

This might be the wrong place - but have I just been approached by a bot in Sainsbos??? Shock Woman approached me next to the satsumas and said she'd noticed I was a mum (DS, 2, in trolley) - would I like a business opportunity that I could fit around my other commitments? Ran away fast
pelting her with satsumas so she didn't get a chance to name-check the cult company. She had a 'Grow Your Life' enamel pin on her coat though...

sminkypink · 21/01/2016 13:28

I would tell Sainsburys, they banned UCKG from doing collections when we complained to them. And Businesses do not like it when third parties prospect their customers on their premises. It is grossly unethical.

ThenBellaDidSomethingVeryKind · 21/01/2016 13:32

Yes, I might drop them a line. I spotted her a couple of times as I continued shopping and noted that her basket didn't have anything in it.

Patzy85 · 21/01/2016 13:33

I'm highly confused about this Lucy Greenwood. She says she is a manager (an eagle manager, even) however she wasn't in November. What is a non-manager? She also bought herself 69 days worth of clean9s and fit-whatevers. Bumping up the CCs?

Unsurprisingly she is no where near me yet the top-bots in my areas are the ones commenting on her Facebook posts. Small world? No, just a small amount of successful people in the company.

MLM-bot watch - LIGHTHEARTED - continued discussion of Juice + Forever Living Younique etc as scams with laughing
sminkypink · 21/01/2016 13:36

thenbella if they spot her on cctv they might have a quiet word.

Eyespying · 21/01/2016 13:58

Patzy85 I get the impression that Lucy might have been selected for a fast-track to shilldom, because of her attractive appearance and her friendly Northern-girl-next-door profile. Few, vulnerable men, and indeed few, vulnerable women, would tell Lucy or her attractive cousin to sling their hooks, if they made eyes at them.

Lucy is another Emma Cooper in-the-making, and Emma's been posting supportive comments.

sminkypink · 21/01/2016 14:22

Lucy is totally without gorm...

Eyespying · 21/01/2016 14:42

sminkypink - If we were 'MLM' racketeers looking for effective shills, Lucy would be on our short-list, because we would know that a certain type of unwary prospect will gaze admiringly at this simple Northern lass pretending to have tranformed into an 'international businesswoman,' and falsey reason, well if she can succeed in 'MLM,' then anyone can.

Claregeorgina1 · 21/01/2016 14:59

The Shingles bullshitting again
www.facebook.com/tasha.shingles/posts/10153308213298314

Gimlet1984 · 21/01/2016 15:03

There may well be a selection process that goes on. I have noticed Emma Cooper personally commenting through Facebook on certain bot status's which no doubt makes the bot feel extremely special because in their minds they can't believe someone like Emma who is effectively a forever celebrity would talk to them directly. I would imagine they experience a feeling of euphoria, similar to meeting a childhood idol.

This kind of hero worship seems dangerous though because if the bots friends and family are trying to help them see the light they are unlikely to listen. When someone high up like Emma is reassuring them it's a brilliant company, the bot is doing a great job and the higher ups have got their eye on them they are drawn further into the scam, it's really quite clever.

rayofhope · 21/01/2016 15:29

patsy there are 1000's of active distributors but that list only ever shows the top 20. She'll have bought the c9, fit 1 and fit2 for the 69 day programme (that would definitely boost her cc's)

The high up people commenting on her posts will be in her upline, she's in the 'eagles team' so EC's downline.

Non manager is anyone in your team who isn't a manager yet, so you're helping them to get there. They're trained to always make your team wide and deep as then you can be hitting all the incentives Forever sets.

thenbelladid we're told that everyone is a potential prospect, so supermarkets are the perfect place. She'll have been specifically looking for someone with a child (who would have the potential to hate to go back to work)

Fintan · 21/01/2016 15:57

Shock My FLbot's upline is in that list as a Business Builder. No idea what that means!

Just been reading the FB of one of them who says in early January about how she only works between the hours of 10am to 3pm. A week later she's banging on about setting her alarm for 5.45am to go to some FL event !!

I've noticed that my FLbot and her colleague, and their upline who's on the Business Builder list have all been going on about setting their alarms recently, and it's always been before 6am. Loads of time with your kids, yeah right....

M0biusgeek · 21/01/2016 15:58

ray can you explain the concept of wide & deep? I'm thinking deep is about training up manager material and wide is just any tom,dick or harry willing to boost your monthly CCs?

Eyespying · 21/01/2016 15:58

'Gimlet1984' - You are right. I've personally interviewed several ex-'MLM' adherents who confessed that, when they were still being controlled, meeting 'Diamonds' felt exactly liking meeting rock stars or movie stars.

Remember also that, if Lucy is under the influence of EC, she's also under the influence of Dave O'Connor and, by all accounts, Mr. O'Connor fancies himself as a stud.

www.educomindpower.com/orig/David_OConnor_Educo_Trainer.htm

Eyespying · 21/01/2016 16:09

MObiusgeek

"Wide 'N Deep" is the title of a generic Bot programming manual.

www.amazon.com/Wide-Deep-Getting-Started-Success/dp/1503060950

www.amazon.com/dp/1503060950/ref=rdr_ext_tmb

Claregeorgina1 · 21/01/2016 16:19

Shingles has removed her new house , hottub status already ...