MLM-bot watch - LIGHTHEARTED - continued discussion of Juice + Forever Living Younique etc as scams with laughing

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Continued LIGHT-HEARTED discussion here.

For heavy analysis, please check out Eyespy's threads on the same topic.

Our own, fake MN MLM twitter, FB & blog accounts are here:

@TimelessVie
wordpress.com/timelessvie
facebook.com/timelessvie

update: 459 likes on TV FB page, over 6,000 reach

nearly 5,500 views of blog - not bad since it was started in november, and we're noticing more and more websearches for TV too.

Interested in more indepth analysis? On the left sidebar of the blog, under "blogroll" is a list of more serious MLM blogs.

Please keep this thread is bot-watching, sharing screenshots, random MLM info you find and other crazy shit, please and thankyou

And again, we could do none of this without all of you. Thank you.

FLBOT selflessness...

scale of 1-10.. how ethical botwatch?

She'll still be making a profit. If she's an assistant supervisor she'll make 5% if she's made it to manager she'll make 18%

Plus anyone who buys anything from it will automatically go onto her 'who do you know list' nice little contact to chat to about the business.

The more I see from other people the more angry I get that I was ever involved with Forever. I'm glad I got out before I was in too deep

Good idea about messaging potential recruits with link toTimeless Vie etc. (well done to those of you who created the page, it's great). So sad how they try to recruit those just looking for a viable way to provide for their families.

But do we even know EC has paid her mum 100k? Her mum is involved in the whole charade & it's very easy to write a cheque that will never be cashed (home made version of the nonsense chairman's bonus giant cheques). Surely you would pay that amount by bank transfer? I'm guessing she'll be needing the cash from her house sale to support her lavish lifestyle-don't think even the myproplanners will save her!! Funny how most of them seem to rent & not buy houses isn't it?

Spikeypants02 - I agree, 'cheques with lots of zeros' and 'dear old mums,' are not at all original thought-stopping elements in 'MLM' fairy stories.

This bot is posting on my local business page, she seems so nice but taken in by the Leach woman

(Posted this before)

From Forever Living Company Policy Handbook:

6.23

'Before taking any of our products, please consult your doctor. Our products are not medicines and do not carry medicinal licences.'

TV is at 598 likes. Plenty of dislikes a few days ago so I think the Hun's paid us a visit but sadly didn't stop to chat! Please keep liking, sharing and interacting with the FB page. It all helps to raise awareness.

We are seeing lots of chat about 'haters' on some bots' pages. That, and lots of new sportswear. Must have been told by the top bots to get kitted out!

The end of that first video with Teresa Jones was a bit creepy. It reminded me of times of national emergency or something when the tv has nothing on except the Union Jack and God save the queen playing.

I was expecting the 4 minute warning to come next

I follow Katie Price on Instagram (please don't judge me!) and there are currently fl bots on her latest post trying to flog face masks that act like Botox to her followers. Lots of pm me Hun going on

Mobiusgeek, that is indeed unethical! Her upline will still be getting a cut of that and any CC's generated will go towards the climbing of the pyramid. I'm sure that the bots aren't allowed to promise a percentage of sales to charities. I think I read it in their handbook. If you let me know who the bot is, Bot Watch can pay her a friendly visit and point this out to her. Also, how unethical it is.

I'm slowly working my way through the 'sizzle' video- fascinating stuff.

The first presenter states: '5-10 contacts a day- get the product or the business in front of them. That's it. That's the business- don't over complicate it.'

But then apparently the business ^^ complicated because she urges them to all attend one BP per week (business presentation?), as well as sizzles and training days because there's 'always something new to learn'!

The woman with the antlers on seems to have breathing problems. Has the aloe not cured her?

too busy www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=565381343614241&id=419031301582580&substory_index=0

This one is a GLOBAL sucker 'mumtrepeneur'

There's plenty to go at on her page .. The charity one was 31st Dec

Wading, I found it morbidly fascinating. Very boring but unintentionally hilarious.

As others have said, they are, with the exception of antler lady 1, fairly well-upholstered.

Shades of Little Britain, too - fat fighters?

I seem to remember that bots are allowed to give a donation to charity, not a percentage. I think it may have been MacMillan in the past. Can anyone with a better memory confirm this?

When you ignore the 'business' jargon, the 'sizzle' video shows a ritual meeting of British de facto slave, 'Prosperity Gospel' missionaries being instructed how to find more victims for a self-perpetuating, foreign-controlled cultic racket. Rank and file missionairies hand over their own time and cash. They are taught to approach as many people and to perform a ritualised script. They must develop unquestioning faith in their future redemption, ignore all suffering and never give up believing, in order to achieve redemption. These British de facto slave Evangelists are convinced if they duplicate their leaders selfless and saintly example, they will achieve a form of heaven, but they will only ever bring in profits for their millionaire 'Mormon' masters in the USA.

Siwi - MacMillan is how the 'FLP' bosses got Martyn Lewis to appear in the fairy story. £100 000 has been regularly given to the cancer support charity. The cash is raised by 'FLP' adherents.

www.justgiving.com/foreverlivingproducts/

BTW - I wrote to Martyn Lewis (via his agents) several years ago. I sent a full analysis of the 'FLP racket to him and explained the underlying reason why cash had been given to MacMillan (a charity with which he's been deeply involved for years). I believe I also told Martyn Lewis that he was probably in the best position of anyone in the UK to approach investigative journalists and ask them to expose the 'FLP' racket.

To date, Martyn Lewis has never even bothered to reply. His agents did take my concerns very seriously, but they chose their words very carefully. They said that their client had been made aware of my concerns, but he was under no obligation to communicate with me.

I got confused for a min and thought you meant Martin Lewis of MSE www.moneysavingexpert.com has he said anything about mlm's? It could be something he's interested in, as they exploit people with little money.

Princesspound

Over the years, Money Saving Expert has included threads on 'MLM,' and even on 'FLP,' but although these have attracted common-sense commentators saying beware it's a scam, they have also attracted the usual claque of slimy 'MLM' propagandists and gung-ho Bots.

forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?p=48774513

forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=1191677

As far as I'm aware, Martin Lewis of MSE has never published any clear warnings or demonstrated that he has any significant knowledge of this type of cultic racketeering.

I would assume that, if asked about any particular 'MLM income opportunity,' Martin Lewis would merely sit on the fence and advise people to be very careful before signing up.

siwi you're right. The push on raising money for Macmillan last year stipulated that you had to say a donation in any advert etc and not a percentage of your sales.

rayofhope and 'Siwi* - Notice how it's been the poor bloody adherents who raised the cash, but the 'FLP' bosses have co-opted the kudos.

All 'MLM' racketeers have hidden their crimes behind very public claims to be philanthropists. However, very publicly giving (stolen) money to charity, and/or creating charities (with stolen money), has been a hall-mark of American racketeers

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I'm sure that the bots aren't allowed to promise a percentage of sales to charities

Yep, I think this should be pointed out. To be honest it's transparent enough that the charities are expected to be promoting her, but the fact that she's breaking her own company's rules at the same time...