I've been sucked into forever living!! Why do I feel like the bad guy?

[KindergartenKop]

Recently an acquaintance emailed me to ask if I could 'help' her by trying a few products and giving her some feedback. Being the nice person I am I agreed. When the bag of samples turned up the penny dropped and i realised that she's trying to sell them to me (I'm naive I know!). I thought id just buy a little bubble bath. Its fucking 14 quid! No way. I'm sending the bag back and pleading eczema. Does this whole company operate by guilting friends and family into purchasing crap quality at ridic prices?

One of my Flbots posted about sitting in her 'office' (garden) earlier with a caption - "this is my 'work' - who wants to join me?"

This was 6 hours ago and she has had a grand total of 0 comments and 0 likes.

I thought mine was getting regular post-shares until i realised she was sharing her own posts to her own FB page. Notthesame.

tiredemma ????????????

plus these days working from home is hardly exclusive to FLbots e.g.I'm a solicitor but frequently choose to work from home, sitting by ay table with the French windows open... I don't go posting about it tho!

That should have been don't know where the weird question marks came from!!

MerdeAlor

By a strange coincidence, considering our earlier exchange, this kitsch piece appeared in the Daily Mail yesterday.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3147786/From-centerfold-Senator-weight-loss-pitch-man-Scott-Brown-hawking-Herbalife-style-health-supplements.html

When translated into accurate deconstructed English, the article tells us that a former US Senator is being used to promote an 'MLM' racket instigated by a former 'Herbalife' shill.

What a surprise, the Mail no mention of all the ongoing investigations into 'Herbalife' or of any 'Herbalife,' or other 'MLM,' victims.

Yep, I work from home too as our Company's office is 60 miles away. I'm sure my bosses wouldn't mind me posting pictures of my desk on social media rather than actually working...

Plenty of dust, after all that smashing. Poor ol' June.

Is anyone else's FL bot at a training event in Denmark?
Mine is, after posting the obligatory working in the sunshine photo a few days ago.
She's now in Denmark, sleeping in a classroom according to her post!

Tonight my FL bot is going to be the answer to someone's prayers !

Iveystarted a new thread so as not to lose all the interesting comments by running out of space

I've called it

FL thread 2

I'm no good at linking, sorry

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legal_money_matters/2417524-FL-thread-2

Does the fact that "dancing" is in quotes mean it's a euphemism for something? :)

I was on a FB parenting group where they had to institute a strict "attempts to sell stuff/recruit people are forbidden" regime due to an invasion of FLbots. Any discussion of any ailment whatsoever was met with "Let me tell you about this high quality aloe vera product that can fix your etc.", any discussion of childcare with "I have this amazing job that lets me etc. etc.". I've found this thread very interesting!

My sister got sucked into this nightmare a couple of years ago, she and her partner have been completely brainwashed by it. We used to be very close and talked every day about anything and everything, but since FL took hold she has changed. I couldn't go to her house or speak to her on the phone without her or her partner trying to recruit me. My polite nature made it so that I had to sit and endure being talked at for hours on end about how amazing these products were and how you could get rich from selling this crap! And it is absolute crap, overpriced crap too! I am a professional beauty therapist and I make it my business to look at ingredients on bottles etc and question claims of miracle cures and wonder drugs. My questions were always sidestepped by promises of luxurious, FREE holidays and potential millionaire lifestyles, I was shown Youtube videos of "successful distributors" enjoying said holidays and lifestyles and watched in concealed horror at the glazed look in my sister and her partner's eyes. I said no on more than one occasion but somehow the word no fell on deaf ears and on they pressed. I started to spend less time with them, even ashamedly after the birth of their first child. They were even trying to recruit in the maternity ward where my nephew (their "miracle Aloe Baby") was born, less than 24 hours after he entered the world.
I was asked to sign up last year to enable them to earn enough case credits to get to "manager" level, no expense to me, my sis and her partner were paying, my one condition was that I was NEVER to be hounded about this, on FB, Twitter or anywhere else in life, ever! The promise was kept for all of 10 minutes when my sister took the liberty of adding me to no less than 16 different Groups and Pages relating to this cult on Facebook. My news feed was instantly filled with inspirational quotes, motovational messages and countless invites to meetings, I had to spend an hour removing each and every blasted one. I never did a thing with the box of products I was sent, I don't know anyone who has £9.50 to spend on a 250ml size bottle of shampoo that smells like old lady, I still can't escape from it fully as that would mean blocking my own sister, so I continue to live in hope that she will come to her senses and start living in the real world again! Hope is all I have!

Nicola come and join us on the next thread, it's linked a couple of posts up

I also used to find it funny seeing the FB posts... but when my wife got sucked into it.... Not sure how to get her back to her senses without being tagged as a 'negative threat to her achieving success.'

I have at least 10, yes, 10 people who claim to be near the top of the FL chain on my FB. Like you all describe, I see daily photos of newly booked holidays to luxury hotels, expensive cars and people on stages receiving enormous cheques.

I can't work out how they earn their money but I'm off to read this thread in an attempt to solve the mystery!

Thank you so much for all the contributions on this thread which give actual insight into this nonsense. It has been most eye opening. I posted about this years ago asking for anyone who might know exactly what is going on with this strange MLM stuff.

I just came across this thread googling, cos i'm thinking of joining Forever Living. One of my 'friends' done the same, brought me up the basket to try and write feedback. wow they're not cheap but actually the one cream cleared up my sons eczema which i was using prescription steroid cream on , the toothpaste made my teeth and mouth feel really good, duno if any whiter but defiantly better and the heat lotion soothed and eased my other halves fluid on the knees. do you guys actually have any real reason to doubt what your 'crazy friends' are saying? and just presume because they upload pictures of holidays, cars etc that its a scam?

If you have read the whole thread and still think we have no real reason as to why we think it is a scam then there is very little else we can say.

The products themselves are not a scam - they are fine, if expensive. But the products are a cover - they just give justification for the organisation not being a pyramid scheme.

What is a scam is the notion that anyone who joins is going to become rich from it. The people who do well have to recruit big teams of people to work under them and the people that I know doing it tell me you can do it around the children etc but they are having to drive all over the country to recruit new people (which they call 'launching so and so's business) and also go to events. I imagine all this means you spend less, not more time with the children.

THANK YOU for this thread.
This brand clearly preys on vulnerable people.

I had been cringing at my FLFB friend's updates, wondering how such an intelligent, charismatic, beautiful and generally nice person could have been sucked into this soulless and humiliating line of work. She revealed last week that she had given up a full time job as a successful manager to follow the FL dream.

ANyway, I met her for coffee (Costa!) because she asked me to and I wanted to see her anyway (we used to have a laugh together). I was also mildly curious, thinking if she's doing it then there must be something in it.

ONe thing that has had me freaked out reading this thread is the use of the generic bot terms, and the main one that stands out is the "meeting your beautiful children". Brrr. I thought it was an unusual selection of words at the time, but now I've seen it's a stock FL phrase it sends shivers down my spine.

I'm going to read the Netmums thread.
THanks for this invaluable, and hilarious! read.

Also, as an aside: This thread has broken the spell for me, not that I was wrapped up in it all, thankfully. But I do work long hours and pay a nanny a big chunk of my salary, almost to the point it's hardly worth me working. That, of course, is the original appeal. Except it's too good to be true.

I wouldn't think it was a good idea for anyone to go all legal and start putting valuable energy into protesting any of this. That's a waste of time and a road to nowhere. No, threads like this mumsnet one can do wonders to burst the bubble of any cultish language and behaviour. Mumsnet dry wit and humour is worth a million, or a billion, pieces of legislstion or pushes to prevent XYZ.
I was a bit disappointed when that person (Eyespy?) came on with the dry legal side of it. It detracted from the tone of the thread, which was basically mumsnetters keeping it real, as usual.

Just read to the end of the tread.

Eyespying: Killed. the. magic.