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I've been sucked into forever living!! Why do I feel like the bad guy?

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KindergartenKop · 03/06/2015 20:27

Recently an acquaintance emailed me to ask if I could 'help' her by trying a few products and giving her some feedback. Being the nice person I am I agreed. When the bag of samples turned up the penny dropped and i realised that she's trying to sell them to me (I'm naive I know!). I thought id just buy a little bubble bath. Its fucking 14 quid! No way. I'm sending the bag back and pleading eczema. Does this whole company operate by guilting friends and family into purchasing crap quality at ridic prices?

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Melonfool · 02/07/2015 14:40

LS has given up the Labour whip and renounced his title of Business Guru - it seems he is trying to distance himself from politics actually.

Not sure he had the best reputation just the best PR - his products are shite, so that in itself could be considered a scam.

Eyespying · 02/07/2015 14:47

MarthasHarbour - I'm sure that this particular little episode with LS, has only served to confirm in your mind just how easy it can be to start to shut down even sceptical people's critical and evaluative faculties, by reflecting their existing beliefs and instinctual desires.

LS's involvement with 'Tropic Skin Care' also demonstrates just how deeply the 'MLM' cancer has gnawed its way into the heart of traditional culture in Britain, without the mainstream media, or the authorities, diagnosing it, let alone trying to stop it.

Like I said, most casual observers who have mainstream media-based knowledge of LS, would find it unthinkable that he could be associated with, let alone promoting, a scam. However, it's not difficult to imagine the non-rational, instinctual denial of reality of friends and colleagues of LS to my rational analysis of 'Tropic Skin Care.' They would systematically exclude the wider-evidence and dismiss me as ill-informed and/or crazy.

Sadly, a high percentage of people find it almost impossible to admit to being deceived, because it's basic human nature to try to justify our previous behaviour.

Remember the tragicomic initial reactions of Jimmy Savile's relatives, when the truth started to come out.

All the most successful con-artists have known that the easiest people to con, are people with a very high opinion of themselves and who are, therefore, completely certain that they cannot be deceived. Once they are deceived, their own egos will not allow them to turn back.

'The most powerful weapon in the hands of the oppressor, is the mind of the oppressed.'

lazycoo · 02/07/2015 15:24

LS lost my respect when he sacked the lawyer for producing a cardboard skeleton. His choices of apprentices can be woeful but that's the pool from which he has to choose I suppose. Love that programme. When's it coming back? SOMEONE has to go on with a MLM of a business plan. I'd love to see the scrutiny that gets.

Right, off to smash some shit. Or DOING WORK as mere mortals call it.

lastuseraccount123 · 02/07/2015 15:34

eyespy said It's the fact that laseruseraccount123 hadn't actually followed, or understood, this important aspect of the thread, before politely asking me to get lost, and was evidently proud of this.

You're right, except I wasn't proud. I'm just not that interested - not because it's not interesting, more because I'm aware of this aspect of MLMs from reading blogs like "Pink Truth" etc. and from following TOny Ortega (scientology journalist) as there are a lot of similarities.

I like all the personal anecdotes people are sharing on this thread. It's interesting to see the patterns among FLbots and how calculated it all is. I'm hoping for thread 2 after this one ends Smile

lastuseraccount123 · 02/07/2015 15:37

My FLbot update: she's following the script by not posting about FL too much - her last 3 posts haven't mentioned FL at all. One is about how if you play games on FB you have time to run a business on FB, and the other two are about healthy snacks she's made.

now i've read about their training it's sooo calculated-seeming

lastuseraccount123 · 02/07/2015 15:43

ps. anyone else got any MLMers to share? I feel like adding to my stable of stalkees. Herbalife? JuicePlus?

Eyespying · 02/07/2015 15:50

lastuseraccount123 - You have just resurrected your credibility, but I was quietly confident you would. You actually remind me of myself, but from several years back.

lastuseraccount123 · 02/07/2015 16:11

THX Wink

FanFuckingTastic · 02/07/2015 16:22

My FLbot and her team have SMASHED June.

I am not sure what that means for the rest of us, I mean, will June be stuck in a cast and come back next year a bit wonky, or will we have to sadly let June go and employ another newer, better month?

Perhaps now June has lost it's job, it needs to find a new one, that it can do from home, and be it's own boss.

Perhaps June could Build your own business around current commitments family work children, all from the comfort of your own home. Earning depends entirely on what you want to earn. Want a 5 month plan to Manager earning £2000+ Per MONTH, that's fine we can achieve. Want to double that... Simple. Motivation and dedication is needed. Reply for more information. 6 months from today you will look back and say it's the best thing you have ever done!

Smashing!

buddhasbelly · 02/07/2015 16:51

hanging curtain poles this morning (not an easy task due to height!) and after reading this thread with great amusement (and worry) I exclaimed at the end of said task "smashed it!" aargh FL has taken hold of me!!!!

lazycoo · 02/07/2015 16:52

Are there any other FL-threads where the cool kids have gone to hang out? Since I came along this thread went all quiet (sorry). FanFucking poor June, getting beaten up like that but it'll give it the motivation to soar like an eagle and fleece July, August and September for all their worth before giving up in October having spent all its savings and maxed out their cards trying to live the MLM dream Grin

Bambambini · 02/07/2015 17:08

Guess we will never know if they did or did not smash June but they probably have to be seen to have smashed it to lure in some new cannon fodder. Can't have any negativity.

BertieBotts · 02/07/2015 17:21

What an interesting thread! My ex used to do IT support for the overall UK manager of FL. I've been to that manor on their website. It is fancy.

buddhasbelly · 02/07/2015 17:33

bertie do you have a fountain of FL knowledge to bestow upon us? please say you do!!

lastuseraccount123 · 02/07/2015 17:41

yeah I was thinking we need a whistle-blower to give us the deets on what it's like on the inside.

Eyespying · 02/07/2015 17:57

lastuseraccount123 - Apparently, it's like this.

throwingpebbles · 02/07/2015 19:20

Flutters eyelashes at bertie pleeeeeease don't just leave us with that teaser and then disappear (unless it's because you are going to do some top secret whistle blowing, in which case I'll forgive you Grin

TalcumMucker · 02/07/2015 19:31

My FL bot has been promoted today, to assistant manager. No mention of how much her pay rise is though?! I thought that was mandatory!

Also there's pics on there of her and others doing the FL body wraps. It looks like they've got cling film round their tummy. She's made the picture black and white, which I guess makes it less offensive. Apparently it made her 4.5cm smaller round the waist in an hour. I want to post and ask her what it measured the next morning...

BertieBotts · 02/07/2015 19:33

Unfortunately not :( I only went there once. They're not very computer savvy, happy to pay money out to get someone to do fairly simple things for them, (which was pretty typical of XP's customers mainly) and aside from that they seemed perfectly nice normal people.

BertieBotts · 02/07/2015 19:33

Sorry, I would have posted that 15 minutes ago but DH surprised me with an air conditioning unit!

TalcumMucker · 02/07/2015 19:39

Totally forgot the inspirational quote of the day:

Entrepreneurship is living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't.

Hmm
Bovnydazzler · 03/07/2015 06:20

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Tiredemma · 03/07/2015 07:33

Lots of pics on FB last night of FLBots at some 'garden party' at the HQ- reminded me of the Garden party that the Queen throws.

Lots of manic smiles around and holding banners with various statements on like 'winning team' etc.

Jossysgiants · 03/07/2015 07:34

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xenu1 · 03/07/2015 07:50

Great clip bovnydazzler! Liked the plug for the next meeting, and the "put your blinkers on, don't look around you" advice 50 seconds in. Classic cult mind control.

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