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Support thread for those experiencing or recently experienced a MC/MMC

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AMS19 · 29/12/2020 08:15

Hi ladies

A few of us got talking on another thread and found having each other in the same boat, whilst devastating, helpful. So here is a little thread so we can stay in touch and support each other through this journey.

Anyone who has recently experienced or is experiencing a MC/MMC please join us. We are just on the start of our journey ❤

I found out I had a MMC on 21st December at 9+5. This was following a scan that showed a baby with a heartbeat 3 weeks earlier. My body hasn't let go at all, with no bleeding, so I'm booked in for surgery tomorrow. The hardest thing waiting over Christmas 💔

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AMS19 · 14/01/2021 15:11

Hi @Enola41 I'm so so sorry lovely! You're definitely welcome to join us. It is so incredibly tough but we are all right here for you and all going through the same thing literally only weeks apart. I'm 2 weeks post procedure today and already feeling much more positive! My scan should have been today which is tough but I keep thinking it is better I knew when I did and am now 2 weeks past MVA rather than jsut finding out now

@SuzieDeLaTour amazing stories!! Definitely a FRER. I'm doing what @TheDaydreamBelievers did and using cheapies until they go negative then moving to a FRER. They don't scan you with surgery unless you've had bleeding. If you've had bleeding they usually do to check surgery is definitely still required

@Scottishskifun I'm so glad you're getting the support you need!!

@LauraT94 good luck lovely. It's great you have the painkillers so hopefully will just be uncomfortable and not painful. I had MVA so can answer any questions you have at all. The bleeding was only really there for 24 hours and has been virtually nothing since, and no pain after at all! Youre gonna be absolutely fine, don't be afraid to ask for more pain relief if you need it

@Slk3558 give some ladies on here have had some very traumatic experiences I would suggest not posting a pic on here. If you do it on another thread and send a link people will have the option. But some on here may find that upsetting. I'm so sorry for what you are experiencing and we can definitely help you xx

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AMS19 · 14/01/2021 15:13

Sorry @SuzieDeLaTour cross post! Yeah absolutely 10000% do the surgery! Sounds sensible not to bother if you're sure you haven't passed it. So so close now!!! You'll get your results don't worry, they bash them out super quick for surgery! I have 2 swaps, another one the day of my MVA and I had the results for that one on my discharge form the next afternoon xx

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AMS19 · 14/01/2021 15:17

Also @Scottishskifun you absolutely are not being melodramatic. I honestly don't believe that is possible with a miscarriage. We've lost a baby. That is horrific thing to happen to us all. And the way you list yours is even worse. So never think everything you're feeling isn't normal or justified because it is! Xx

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SuzieDeLaTour · 14/01/2021 15:22

@AMS19 oh I know, so so close. I just keep telling my body to hang on!! I’m going to chase the results tomorrow morning - probably beg them to fast track me 😁

mia2201 · 14/01/2021 15:38

thought I'll jump on to say when I had my surgical management last month I got operated on without the covid test result. They took a swab and I arrived at the hospital next day saying can I still have the procedure as my result hasn't been texted to me and she said nevermind, it doesn't matter and it all went ahead! hope you all get the treatment you are after, ladies! thinking of you in those diffucult times, it's so sad I know. Sending you strength xx

LauraT94 · 14/01/2021 15:43

@Scottishskifun thank you. Luckily didn't have to wait too long!

@Seasalt1984 @SuzieDeLaTour @AMS19 thank you! All went quickly and smoothly.

The rest of the details:

Got called into the procedure room. Was a bit scary going in as there's a big bed with stirrups and a surgeon and trainee standing over a table full of scary looking equipment! My lovely nurse Lesley was with me the whole time (she's the triage nurse who gave me my meds earlier). She held my hand and made small talk with me while we waited for the surgeons to prep.

I won't talk through all the gory details of the actual procedure but if anyone's due to have an MVA or is considering it and wants to know exactly what happens then please do ask! But I will say - take all the drugs they offer you!! I had 20mg codeine, 1g paracetamol, and gas and air and I was still in a LOT of pain! I had to ask them to stop once as it was unbearable but my nurse kept talking calmly to me and talked me through it, encouraging me to breathe deeply and slowly on the gas and air. She also got a cold wipe to wipe my forehead as I was feeling like I was going to pass out.

It was actually over relatively quickly! They ended the procedure with popping some antibiotics up my bum so that was just another experience 😂

I got to stay lying on my bed in peace after that, Lesley brought me a cup of tea and some biscuits (though I was too nauseous for them) and she left me in quiet for a little while to get over the gas and air etc.

The pain continued after the procedure (, and is still there now) and is more like contractions - my uterus is doing it's thing and contracting so it can shrink back down!!

Eventually Lesley came back in, took my blood pressure and pulse and let me get up and dressed. She asked me what I wanted them to do with the remains (I opted for them to cremate) and gave me some oral antibiotics too. Then she checked I was feeling ok and let me go home!

So overall, horrendous experience but lovely care.

Back home with a hot water bottle and my little kitten on my lap! Going to try and just nap this afternoon and get over the pain.

Really hope this helps somebody and I'll happily answer any questions if there are any.

AMS19 · 14/01/2021 15:56

@LauraT94 you can probably appreciate how traumatic my experience was now when I wasn't given any paracetamol/codine/pain relief or gas and air!! I had to go through the whole thing with zero pain relief.... no wonder my body went into shock after!!

@SuzieDeLaTour just to add I never got my results either, they went straight to the ward!

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LauraT94 · 14/01/2021 15:57

@AMS19 honestly I cannot even imagine - you are super woman!! I feel battered enough as it is. It seems evil they made you experience it like that xxx

SuzieDeLaTour · 14/01/2021 15:59

@mia2201 oh I so wish that would happen with me! But my gynae was absolutely clear that they would not perform the procedure without a negative result. I guess they have to perform emergency surgery without a test but desperately hoping I avoid going down that route!!!

AMS19 · 14/01/2021 16:00

@laurat94 it was absolutely awful! I'm slightly traumatised from it.
I'm so so glad you're home safely and it is done. It is 2 weeks since mine today, spotting has totally stopped and tests are getting light, so recovery from here is downhill xx

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LauraT94 · 14/01/2021 16:03

@AMS19 I can definitely understand that! It's a very traumatising experience as is. Without taking into account the fact you had no pain relief and you had to wait around a few days as well didn't you? But I'm glad you're coming out the other side of it now!!

I can't wait to go back to feeling a bit more normal. I hate being so mopey and sedentary.

A friend of mine is self isolating ready for a double mastectomy soon so I'll be walking her dog a few times a week - I think this will be really good for getting me out of the house etc!!

mia2201 · 14/01/2021 16:12

@LauraT94 the worst is behind you now! hope the recovery goes smoothly, hope the days ahead are less cloudy for you. Sending you a hug xx

SuzieDeLaTour · 14/01/2021 16:12

@LauraT94 oh I’m so glad it’s over for you! Sounds absolutely horrendous, what an awful ordeal to go through. You are a STRONG lady to go endure that!! X

mia2201 · 14/01/2021 16:14

@SuzieDeLaTour - isn't it bizzare how different trusts operate on their own terms? i like to think maybe advice has changed now as my procedure took place 4 weeks ago but the disparities described on here are crazy! good luck with everything xx

AMS19 · 14/01/2021 16:22

@LauraT94 yeah I was meant to have surgery. Waited all day on 30th and it didn't happened. Then 31st surgery got cancelled in the afternoon and it got switched to a MVA last minute. They don't usually offer MVA hence didn't realise the pain implications...but I was so grateful to have something done before the year was out. Then got the covid alert and was stuck in for a week 🙄 fresh air is definitely the way forward!! Xx

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SuzieDeLaTour · 14/01/2021 17:06

@mia2201 maybe they’ve introduced it since the latest lockdown? 🤷‍♀️ It’s a pain is all I know!! But my gynae freaked me out by telling me if you have Covid and go under there’s a high risk of death!? That was enough to shut me up 😊 thanks for your good luck wishes - I’ll keep you all posted! X

TheHotelCalifornia · 14/01/2021 18:01

@LauraT94 I'm so glad you're home safe now and it's all over. The antibiotics up the bum did make me lol!! Bless you. Sending love and hope you feel okay tonight xxx

TheHotelCalifornia · 14/01/2021 18:02

Also @AMS19 I'm making my way through the thread reading about everyone's experiences and I just can't believe what happened to you :( I'm so so sorry, it sounds absolutely horrendous. I really feel like they massively messed up?? I bet your husband was so angry at what happened??

TheHotelCalifornia · 14/01/2021 18:04

Also guys I've typed out my experience so going to post it in a sec. It's insanely long, sorry, but hopefully will help ladies looking for reassurance in the future! Also it was actually very cathartic typing it all out so recommend it for anyone looking for a bit of closure maybe xxx

TheHotelCalifornia · 14/01/2021 18:06

Hey ladies. So as mentioned earlier I just wanted to take the time to share my positive experience with surgical management of a miscarriage with you all to hopefully reassure anyone coming on here and feeling nervous about a future procedure.

I posted a thread here www.mumsnet.com/Talk/miscarriage/4132578-I-think-Im-miscarrying-Looking-for-support-or-to-not-feel-alone-I-guess in the morning on Monday when I started cramping and bleeding heavier than I had previously, so have a read of that first.

After posting that I ate lunch and continued working (WFH) while having cramps that were getting a bit painful but manageable. We finished work and ate dinner, and then my cramps got more painful so we decided to call the EPU about 8pm as we’d been advised to. I initially didn’t want to as it was getting late and I kind of felt like this was it, it was happening, and I’d wait until the pain got worse and go to the EPU in the morning. My husband persuaded me to call though and I’m so glad he did. I spoke to a lovely nurse who spoke to the on-call Dr and she told us to come in for a check up just to be on the safe side. I really wasn’t expecting that but once I hung up I actually felt a sense of relief that we could go and just see what was going on, and that they’d be able to advise us what to do. So we hopped in the car and went to the hospital where I unfortunately had to leave my husband in the car as he wasn’t allowed in ☹ I then was taken into a ward and waited to be seen. I had my BP taken and I was pleased to see that it had gone down from the week before on New Years Day when I first started bleeding and went to A&E and it was super high! I then had to pee in a cardboard thing so they could see how much blood was there. It was a lot ☹ at 10.30pm a lovely Dr came to speak to me who I’d actually seen on NYD. She was so lovely and asked lots of Qs and decided to do an internal examination to see what was going on. I was in quite a bit of pain at this point but it was on and off. Surprisingly my cervix was closed and although she could see blood and a few small clots this meant I was not actively having a miscarriage, it was a threatened miscarriage. I started crying as I just felt so confused and then we chatted for a bit about the molar thing and what was going on. She then said she’d go and check if they should keep me in, take my bloods, or get a scan, and she disappeared.

It was about 11.30pm by this point and I was honestly just feeling so exhausted that I wanted to go home. She then came back and said she’d managed to organize a scan for me but I said I wasn’t sure I wanted one as if it was bad news what could we do that evening? I was worried about having to go home with that knowledge and then come back in. She said she thought it would be a good idea just to see what was going on though, and I then realized it definitely was a good idea and my tiredness was talking for me!! Luckily I was able to call my husband back in to come into the scan room with me which was just such a blessing as we actually then got told that unfortunately there was no heartbeat. It was very difficult news to take in but thankfully we’d prepared ourselves all week for the worst and I felt strangely numb about it. We were more concerned about the possibility of a partial molar and the sonographer said she couldn’t see evidence of a partial molar but that the sonographer who scanned us the week before was much more senior and had actually trained her, so she didn’t want to comment too much. We then had to discuss our options. They explained that surgery was recommended due to the partial molar question and that was the option we would have opted for anyway. They then said they’d get me in for surgery the next day which was just wonderful and we were so grateful. They wanted me to stay in but I just wanted to go home, so they made my husband promise to bring me in straightaway if the bleeding got heavier. The lovely Dr promised to call me before 8am with a time, staying past her night shift so she could be the one to call me bless her, and I wasn’t allowed to have breakfast.

We got home about 1am and we were just exhausted. The cramps were a lot more painful at this point and we potentially should have gone back in but honestly I was just so tired and wanted to be at home. I put a pad on, put a towel on the bed and just tried to get some sleep. I didn’t sleep well at all as the cramps were beyond anything I’ve experienced before and I kept having to change my pad as the bleeding was getting heavier. Eventually I fell asleep and we woke up to a phone call about 7.30am from the lovely Dr who said I was booked in and could I come in as soon as I was ready so they could do my bloods etc. So off we went again, this time knowing that hopefully the 2 awful weeks we’d had were coming to an end, albeit not the one we wanted.

Oh my goodness this is turning into my autobiography, sorry!! Just want to get all the details down for you all. So. We got to the EPU about 8am and my husband was luckily able to drop me off this time rather than wait in his car for 6 hours as we knew it could be a while. I went back into the ward and after a while another lovely Dr came to see me and talk through the operation. She said it would be 15/20 mins and was a fairly straightforward procedure. She talked me through all the potential side effects which was a little scary but had to be done, and she did say I was low risk which helped. She also talked me through the consent forms for both the operation and the disposal of the tissue after it had been tested which was a little upsetting but I was happy with what she told me. Basically the tissue is technically mine but as it was being sent off, the hospital would dispose of it sensitively which I was happy with. Maybe read up a little about this before you go in for your operation to prepare yourself.

I then had a blood test and a Covid test. The Dr said she had a big case that would take 1.5-2 hours and then it’d be my turn, so I was working on 11.30-12pm ish. I wasn’t allowed any water but I told them I was in pain and they said they’d bring painkillers. I was then left alone and a few people popped in and out during this time to take my BP and tell me more things and ask questions. I was tired but couldn’t sleep so I just sort of lay on the bed and went on my phone occasionally. At about 10.30 a new Dr came in, well, new for the day but again I’d met her previously when I went in on New Years Day so it was nice to see a familiar face and she was just lovely. She said they were going to scan me which I’d been prepared for as they have to scan twice to confirm ‘fetal demise’ which is one of the worst phrases I’ve ever heard. I felt lucky that my husband had been able to come in with me the night before so I knew I wouldn’t be hearing it for the first time that day. The scan was okay, again confirmed no heartbeat. There were 2 Drs in there and a lovely young student nurse who squeezed my hand as I got upset again. What was interesting is that once again the Dr (a different Dr) said she couldn’t see evidence of partial molar. I felt my heart grow a little lighter as she said this, as this was the 2nd time now. She did say that she could see the first scan (from Monday 4th) and she could see why that Dr had queried the partial molar. She also showed me the screen briefly and it looked completely different from the 4th. Whereas on the 4th the poor baby had looked almost squashed (and the Dr had said there wasn’t enough fluid around it in the gestational sac) this time it looked like there was a lot more room and the sac had grown. In fact I think this might have been the case the night before too as I think my husband commented on it, but I tried not to look at the screen on Monday as I was upset. On this morning though, I looked and the Dr told me the baby was quite low in my uterus which meant in fact the miscarriage was underway. I was surprised by this as just a few hours before my cervix was closed and it hadn’t looked like I was actively having a miscarriage, but I guess things had really progressed overnight. I actually felt quite pleased that my body was trying to expel the tissue as I felt like it had realized something wasn’t right and it was trying to protect me, if that makes sense?

After the scan I chatted with the Dr for ages and it was really helpful. We spoke about the partial molar issue and I told her how worried I’d been about it and she was so understanding. She repeated that she couldn’t see anything but it was still best to get it tested. She said results take 4 weeks which would tie in with when they recommended starting to TTC again so actually would match up quite well. She also said lots of helpful and reassuring things that just made me feel better. Particularly something that stood out to me which was along the lines of a sperm and an egg meeting being a relatively amazing thing already, but that gets even more amazing as it becomes this insanely complex LIFE that has so many different elements that things are bound to go wrong every so often and it just can’t be helped. I feel like I’m not retelling that well but it just really did help me. So despite having confirmation again that there was no heartbeat, I felt better after this scan.

After the scan I got given some codeine and paracetamol about 11am, then about 12 I had to insert the two pills that would soften my cervix. I really struggled with this and dropped one which was a bit of a nightmare, and I eventually just took the tampon out of the applicator, stuck them on the top and then put the tampon in! Not ideal but hopefully did the job. I got a bit upset doing this as I was just starting to feel really fed up about this awful situation I was in. About 12.30 I got told my Covid test was negative and so they moved me to a Covid negative ward just down the hallway where I had a nice window bed. I was starting to get really hungry and thirsty at this point. About 12.45 the same lovely Dr from earlier who was going to do my procedure (they were all lovely!!) came to see me. She apologized for the delay and said that she’d seen my scan from this morning and said ‘good news that the Dr couldn’t see evidence of a partial molar!’ which again cheered me up as this was yet another person saying this, and she also said did I still want the surgery!? Which REALLY confused me as you have to have surgery if there’s any mention of a partial molar so does that mean she was positive it wasn’t!? I was confused and said I still wanted the surgery and would actually want it even if there wasn’t mention of a partial molar, and she said she agreed. So that was a bit confusing but didn’t change anything really. She said she hoped my op would be just after 1 and left me feeling quite ready. Unfortunately I then just waited and waited until 3pm when they finally came to get me. I realise this isn’t really a long time at all but honestly I was SO HUNGRY and thirsty I couldn’t think straight as I hadn’t eaten since 6pm the previous evening. In a way it was good as it meant I couldn’t really think about what was happening, but then when I got taken to the anesthetic room it had all happened so suddenly that I got REALLY upset and started crying and just freaking out. The nurses and Drs were wonderful though and one held my hand, one talked to me, and the anesthetist gave me something before the actual GE to help calm me down. I’ve never had GE before so I think I was just nervous plus upset at the thought of what I was actually having done. Whatever she gave me worked, I started to feel very woozy as if I’d had 3 gin and tonics in quick succession, I stopped crying, and then the last thing I remember is her saying I’d start to feel sleepy.

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TheHotelCalifornia · 14/01/2021 18:06

And the next thing I knew I was awake in the exact same place with the same people around me and it was the most confusing thing ever!! Never experienced anything like it! My first thought, once I’d realized that the surgery was over, was relief that I could eat soon!! The nurses were all lovely and I was wheeled back in my bed to the ward. I noticed quite a bit of blood on my bed which was a bit scary but I felt okay. I texted my husband at 4.30 so I’m not sure how long I was under for or how long anything took but I was gone 1.5 hours in total. A nurse brought me a jug of water which I had to drink before I was allowed food so I downed the whole thing haha and then at 5pm I got some TOAST AND MARMITE which I ate in like 5 seconds flat and felt so much better. I felt okay, tired and a bit woozy but I had no pain which I was really relieved about. I just wanted to go home at this point.

The lovely Dr who did my procedure then popped round to see me which I was so appreciative about. I think it was a different Dr from the one who’d said she would do it earlier in the day, but I was so tired and confused and they all looked v similar in their masks and hats that it was hard to say!! She said it all went well and she was pretty confident she’d got everything out which was good to know. She also said she couldn’t see any evidence of a molar! So 3rd person who couldn’t!! Again I felt hugely cheered up by this. She said we may even get the results back in a couple of weeks so that’s good. She said I’d bleed for a week or so and to call if it got suddenly heavier. She said not to TTC until we’d had the results back and I’ve had a period. She also said to expect possibly feeling quite low in 3-4 days after my HCG levels drop and the GE wears off. She said we’d just been very unlucky and would hopefully be at no more risk for a miscarriage in the future and I really really hope this is the case. As with all the other Drs and nurses I’d spoken to that day I started crying at the end of the convo as I thanked her as she’d just been so kind, sensitive and respectful.

A nurse then came to take my canula out and give me my anti D injection as I’m O-Negative. OH MY GOOD GOD. This was the most painful part of the day. It was so so so so painful. My Mum is a nurse and said they normally try and administer it while the woman is under, and I think they just couldn’t get it in time as they had to order it in. So yeah, serious ouch there but it was over quickly. I got given a sick note for 2 weeks, a pack of codeine, discharge notes and lots of verbal instructions from the nurse. She said my husband was under Drs orders to spoil me which I thought was cute. I also got told I wasn’t allowed to operate a cooker for 48 hours which made me laugh! Random! I got a piece of paper with lots of dos and don’ts on but that one just stood out.

And FINALLY about 8.07pm according to the last Whatsapp I sent my husband, the nurse walked me out to his car, I gave husband the biggest hug ever ever ever, and it was all over. I’ve never been so happy to walk into my house. I immediately got my PJs on and got in bed and he put a pizza in the oven and told me he’d bought ice cream. He really is the best. We then just chatted for like 3 hours even though it was late and I was so exhausted, and it was so helpful to just talk through everything and share my experience with him. He struggled a lot during the day as he couldn’t be with me, but he reached out to some friends and chatted with his parents which helped.

So that’s my story guys. Sorry it was insanely long but I CBA to go back and proofread or cut it down so you’re getting it raw and from the heart! It’s now 5.30 on Thursday, just over 48 hours since I had the surgery. Physically, I’m bleeding a little but not a lot. I feel tired and lethargic, I’m insanely thirsty and drinking about 12 pints of water a day, I’m a bit constipated. I’m taking codeine every 4 hours for 5 days and I’ve noticed that when it gets close to the time I can take the next pill I get noticeable pain in my lower abdomen. So I think if I wasn’t taking them I’d be in a lot of pain.

Emotionally? I’m not sure. I feel quite detached from it all at the moment and I think this is a combination of the codeine and the GE still being in my system. I feel relieved in a way that it was over and done with relatively quickly after having such a horrific week of waiting, and before that having all the stress around New Years when the bleeding started (2 weeks in total). I feel extremely grateful that I had such a positive experience and that all the Drs and nurses were so kind, respectful and understanding. I feel nervous for the partial molar results but also hopeful that we could be so lucky as to have just had a ‘regular’ miscarriage. I feel significantly less sad than I did a week Monday when we got told that the pregnancy could go either way. I was honestly worried about myself as I couldn’t seem to get out of bed or feel any kind of interest in anything for the whole week. I didn’t want to listen to music or watch anything other than This Is Us in the evenings as it was the only thing that comforted me, but I also couldn’t stand to be alone with my thoughts so constantly had YouTube videos playing on my phone everywhere I went so that I didn’t have to think. I think although this has been a drawn out process, getting the news in stages as we did in a way made it easier to cope with.

Going forward we will TTC again and I’ll probably write a separate post on my feelings about that as I have a lot of thoughts about it. For now though, I’m going to focus on recovering both in my body and my mind. I’m not really thinking about the past or the future, just the now. Sending everyone love and I really hope that if you’ve made it to the end of my rambles you’ve found some comfort in my words xxxxxxxxxxxxx

AMS19 · 14/01/2021 18:57

@TheHotelCalifornia this is SO amazing. This post is absolutely perfect for women to help them going forward. I'm so glad writing it helped somewhat as you will definitely help others. Ny favourite part was you mentioning This Is Us. It is my favourite programme in the world and so when I got home from my op, about 5 hours before midnight on NYE, we snuggled up and finished season 4 and it made me feel so much better ❤ for what is a horrific experience to go through it sounds like it was the best it could be and I'm so glad of it. You are such a lovely person and I'm so sad for both of us we had this outcome. But I'm also so excited for our future and we will can celebrate and compare the good times together too. Sending you heaps of love and virtual cuddles xxxx

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Slk3558 · 14/01/2021 18:58

@TheDaydreamBelievers @DMT1982

I’ve made another thread as suggested . Would really appreciate anyone who’s had experiences input . Sorry again for the graphic image.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/miscarriage/4136100-Any-advice-on-whether-I-have-passed-the-pregnancy-tissue-sac-Warning-GRAPHIC-tmi?watched=1

AMS19 · 14/01/2021 19:07

And @TheHotelCalifornia yeah it was pretty awful. But ultimately I was so relieved to have something done. It being NYE it really wanted it "sorted" it 2020 so I could leave it behind. But my god that pain was something else! At least I feel more prepared for labour 😂😂

@Slk3558 I've had a look but as I had MVA not medical management or natural miscarriage I'm afraid I have no insight. But again I'm so so sorry for what you are experiencing. It must be so hard for you xx

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TheDaydreamBelievers · 14/01/2021 19:46

@TheHotelCalifornia your post is amazing and so detailed. GA is SO WEIRD isnt it? My memory goes from the lovely anaesthetist saying "now you just relax and go to sleep" to them offering me some water. I was so happy to be offered the water then when the nurse came with it she said "heres another glass of water" and I looked at my bedside and there was an empty one. So I'd clearly woken, had water, fallen back under, then woken, then wanted more water! Grin Like you I was SO hungry and thirsty from not eating from night before (surgery was 530pm!).

@Slk3558 so I had surgery, so dont have expected of tissue. However, I did read that you may pass a clear sac or tissue can start to break down inside your body before it passes out if that makes sense? So may not be a clear sac shape. Wishing you all the best and not too much pain xx